Topic: Bitcoin Market Manipulation - page 7. (Read 1656 times)

I think the bitcoin price is being manipulated, by some who want to buy more bitcoin at a cheaper price. should we already know if the bitcoin price is in manipulation, because the price is too volatile and difficult to control. it can make investors who hold bitcoin more, can control the bitcoin price easily.

I think market manipulation is possible. Perhaps, this is were regulation should come in? When a thousand people own half of the outstanding bitcoin and with this such massive concentration, it's very easy for insiders to manipulate the currency for their own benefit.

Dilution won't happen if the whales dump and then pump as they are just regaining their coins and also making a profit out of those dumps. It is actually the exact opposite happening, where newbies in trading are losing their coins in panic sells, and the smart ones are just hodling and accumulating.

An somewhat even distribution will not happen in decades or maybe never.
There will always be whales, and unfortunately for those desiring some fresh blubber  ,  it's impossible to get rid of them. BTC is the ultimate store of value after all, isn't it?

Manipulation occurred in 2013. This price manipulation is done by two bots and is listed as "??" in the user's country. They named this bot "Markus" and "Willy".

Markus buys and sells bitcoins at seemingly random prices and does not pay for transaction fees. After further examination, Markus does not actually pay for Bitcoin received. Markus earns 335,889 bitcoins and is active from February 14, 2013 through September 27, 2013.

Seven hours after Markus becomes inactive, Willy appears with 49 accounts. Each of these Willy accounts sequentially purchases bitcoins worth US $ 2.5 million and then becomes inactive. During this period, bitcoin prices soared.

Yes, with a comparatively high amount of money is enough to manipulate the crypto market because users and investors are still not matured on a mass level so even a little price fall or rise can create turbulence in the market resulting in a panic selling or buying. There is one thing to notice about capital, one can manipulate the market even with the 20 to 30% market capital so that's how immature market is dangerous for us.

It is right that market manipulation happens in bitcoin.   Many people ,large institutions and affluent investors hold pretty good amount of bitcoins,they want to ensure that the market can be controlled when needed for their self interests. This happens in traditional market and will also continue . Again many time this happens not only bitcoin but also other coin.

The main issue with Bitcoin right now is that in the grand scheme of things, it's still a very small market. This means it is easier to manipulate either intentionally or inadvertently by spreading certain kind of news or even your own trading actions. The solution is wider adoption so that more people are buying and selling and one particular whale can't have such a big effect on the price. Not sure that will happen with Bitcoin, but it's bound to happen with at least one of the cryptocoins sometime, probably sooner rather than later.

there is a serious manipulation. especially countries and excellence. because bitcoin is a danger to many centers.
some major investors are impacting negatively in order to gain.

Group of whales are the most common involve with this kind of manipulations.

This happens not only in Bitcoin but also other altcoins but its pretty obvious specially from alts.

That was also in my mind those people who can afford to have a huge amount they can manipulate the market price movement, just like big politicians or people who rich enough to play their money in bitcoin and earned just go with the flow of the whale in the bitcoin.
So, manipulation probably happens in bitcoin through price only not by the entire bitcoin.

The largest use case for bitcoin, is now, and has always been speculation. Markets that primarily revolve and exist around speculation are always massively manipulated. Bitcoin’s value isn’t based on purchasing power or a vibrant mercantile economy. Anyone that tells you that’s true has their head squarely shoved up their ass.

The truth is, trading bots can take the public information about where all the trade orders are standing above and below the markets, and they can precisely calculate how much money is needed to push the market just far enough to cause these standing orders to get executed and then they calculate exactly how much money is required to push the market just far enough the other direction to cause the next wave of orders to get hit. Knowing the range and depth where orders are placed, trading bots intentionally soak huge profits from small price moves because they activate thousands of small orders that are placed by naive, inexperienced small traders.

Everyone using this forum has heard of trading whales. These are not evil sinister individuals hell bent on the destruction of all that you hold dear. They are corporations, coops, and major investors (like the winklevoss twins) that are holding massive amounts of btc. If these people choose to trade btc “on-book” they are going to cause massive price swings and manipulate the market.

So, is there market manipulation? Of course there is!

Is it evil and destructive for bitcoin? It makes no sense for the major players to hurt bitcoin. They stand to lose a hell of a lot more than you and I do by over manipulation of the market. That’s why many huge exchanges of bitcoin happen “off-book”.

Yes market manipulation happens in bitcoin . It can happen by rich people having alot of bitcoin and dumping it when price reaching high which will crash the market

I think every coin price other than bitcoin is also manipulated. because it is not possible the price can go up and get down that fast. but I also do not know for sure whether the price is really maipulasi or not. but I think so.
it's just that we do not participate in it, just know the price is very volatile that resulted in many people like me assume if the price of bitcoin in manipulation.

Yes,bitcoin has been manipulated by some people called whale but their manipulation rate can be diluted when more number of people adopted to the bitcoin system at the time the funds will be dispersed everywhere so whales may not have enough funds to dump or bump the prices.But we can't say the manipulation happening always because when we see the price chart there is some look like movements in between years so this means this called as natural price movements too.

I think the market can be manipulated. Large holders of bitcoin can control pricew. But this needs really big amounts and only tge super rich or corporations can do this. When they earn big sell and dump the price then buy again at a lower price and do it all over again.

Everything can be called manilulated especially if we feel that the ods are against us. EVen in stocks and the whole of wall street are blamed as manipulating the exchange. However I do think personally that it can be possible given that the conditions are right ot if a considerable amount of factors are met and are done. It truly is a herculean task and there are a lot of things that affects the cryptocurrency market its probable

It is manipulated by the exchanges, just look at the price action

nothing,nothing,nothing,nothing, PUMP, nothing,nothing,nothing,DUMP,nothing,nothing,nothing,nothing...

Very artificial, no organic growth or decline, just occasional strong swings which makes those with inside info very rich by trading on leverage in right time and right direction

if it will be manipulated may require a lot of great people. because to manipulate bitcoin requires funds that are not small in number. here we can play to get a profit whether it is manipulated or not

Yes. everything comes down to market supply - demand forces. many large institutions and affluent investors hold pretty good amount of bitcoins. they want to ensure that the market can be controlled when needed for their self interests. this happens in traditional market and will also continue in the crypto market.

There is indeed market manipulaton going on in bitcoin market and it's all being down by the big whales and others who want to buy bitcoins at a very low price, they want to do it with FUD and other fake news.