Topic: Bitcoin needs to be simplified for the stupid. - page 6. (Read 7646 times)

Saayyyy... here's a thought.

Keep calling everyone on earth who doesn't know how the octets in an IP address work 'stupid', and you won't have to worry about adoption - because you will have insulted the next wave of users to the point of totally turning them off of the idea of bitcoin.

They read this forum before they jump in, you know.

So how's that degree in marketing working out for you, nimrod?

What is next simplification?

Simplify the use of Bitcoin-Qt. Translate DOS-like commands in Console into idiot-proof dialogue windows for grandmas and non-geeks so that they could too make benefit of Bitcoin-Qt's capabilities: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/feature-requests-for-bitcoin-qt-198389

awesome

You have a interesting statement there and may of just opened my eyes.

Yes, we can all remember them darn things!
I do agree with your argument now, making bitcoin more simple will surely encourage others who want to get into this beautiful currency.

I'm different from other people, I like complicated things, because I see a challenge and normally try to master it and feel good about it after, as of my friends normally give up as soon as they see something which slightly challanges them.

But, Bitcoin needs people to grow, that might encourage fraudsters, but hey! It's a currency and it looks like most people are more than aware how to avoid this.
I hope, someone can find a way of presenting bitcoin as a more, simple currency.

I totally agree with the OP - We need some serious simplicity before bitcoin takes off.

I'm sure that there are people here who remember how difficult it was to get on line with a Windows 3.1 PC.

This is what bitcoin is like for most people today!

It also gives a good idea of how much work needs to be done!

As for the fraud question - that is part of the challenge!

Making bitcoin easier?
Like someone said, it would encourage more fraud.
Most people who commit fraud are lazy and see a quick rich scheme and try to scam & fraud whoever and whatever they can.
Becuase of bitcoins complex way, I honestly think that most can't be bothered to read into it.
Most my friends I tell about bitcoin, don't understand it at all and don't want to either.

Implement to a Visa Chip Card or Paywave By making a bitcoin card that works with a credit union or bank
Then just stick it in and let normal people just do the same thing as a visa  
Oh and an online bitcoin atm somewhere
Or someone could just make a bitcoin credit union
Users deposit bit get bit + interest back

A company already did that.  Can't remember who.  But effectively, they'd send an email notification to the person who received the Bitcoins, which the person could then use to claim them.

Anyone up to the task? I'm not a programmer but i can invest 

Millionaire? Try multi-billionaire.

I think we need some layers over Bitcoin where you could sent BTC to addresses like [email protected]. It would be a huge step towards making it mainstream among regular folks. I also think that the first person who runs a company which pulls this of will become a millionaire.

I hope those bitcoin ventures are using this as basis for bitcoin to get through to the mainstream.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2CbbBLVaPk

I agree with SgtSpike. Bitcoin is just a protocol. It is not meant to be used directly by people. Organizations will use bitcoin as the basis for their offerings just like how banks use SWIFT to move money around. So bitcoin won't take off until people start building on top of it. The real money is in doing that - making it accessible to ordinary people.

Another thing I'd like to point out is that bitcoin has a long way to go yet. If you take a look at the leading Internet based payment systems you get Paypal and then the rest. Despite trying for all these years paypal alternatives have still not captured a large share of the market. I thing it would be a major milestone if bitcoin got as large as skrill or payza.

Bitcoin is complicated, get used to it ... it is way easier to use now than it was in mid-2010 ... it will be way easier to use in 2015.

If you are not part of the solution you are part of the problem. All this "someone should" BS ... just go and do it already!!! Is this the entitled mob showing up?

tl;dr stop whinging if you are not creating solutions.

Same for the Internet! No one understands how it works and so noone uses this technology. How do you say: "I think the break through of 'the internet' will never come, because it's to complicated".

The main issues are the usability of the clients and the credibility of the "experts". If you can trust these experts that Bitcoin is no fraud, then everything is ok.

https://www.udemy.com/


I send all my "simple minded" friends here. Seems to work for them!

someone needs to make a really really good INFOGRAPHIC
someone should commission theoatmeal

Grandma will never be able to use Bitcoin directly.  However, she may be able to use services built on top of Bitcoin that are purposefully built to be extremely easy to use and extremely secure/forgiving.  For instance, those services might only pay verified vendors, so that grandma can't accidentally pay a scammer.

Now, if you're saying that grandma can't even use a computer (which, let's face it, if she can't use email, she can't use a computer), then you'd be looking at physical services built on top of Bitcoin that are easy to use and extremely secure/forgiving.  But this will be a long time coming, because it would cost hundreds of millions of dollars in infrastructure to build and maintain.  You'd be looking at the VISA equivalent of Bitcoin.  And actually, it might look a lot like the current VISA system, with swipable cards with pin numbers or signatures required, and the payment network on the hook for cases of merchant fraud.  Problem is, the payment network wouldn't have any way to reverse the fraud in the case of Bitcoin, so they might not actually send payment until the merchant does some basic verifications with them, etc.

Anyway, just some thoughts.  Building a better Bitcoin isn't the problem, it's just a matter of building a system on top of Bitcoin that can do what is necessary to make Bitcoin accessible to grandma.  Or altering the existing system to be compatible with Bitcoin (which might honestly be much easier, if Bitcoin is looked at just like cash from a banking perspective).

Exactly you should be driving until your at least 8   that was a j/k but an 8 year old may be less dangerous than an 80+ yo that has a license

This. OP's expectation for ease of use is entirely unreasonable.

If grandma is truly too stupid (which usually translates into too willfully ignorant and stubborn) to even use friggin' web-based email, she shouldn't be using bitcoin in the first place.

That's a little like complaining that purchasing, maintaining and driving a car is too difficult for a 4-year-old. Good, it should be. He can enjoy the perks of such a tool when he's mature enough to handle all that, and to worry in the meantime that cars may be too complex for the general public based on his lack of ability is unwarranted.