Topic: Bitcoin PayPal Scammer on this forum (Read 1892 times)

so if you were to purchase bitcoins via paypal and have them legitimately sent to you, youre still able to get a refund?

Paypal is a disappointment.  Sorry for your loss.

I also got scammed 40 AUD against btc I have never seen, I have paid with paypal on a verified paypal account, the guys persists in saying he is going to refund me. It is really beyond the point as he is using my money to scam ADfocus???  That guy had the nerves to tell me: (obviously I was enraged):

(guy disappears from the chat just  after payment sent)

==>Day of the payment
Me: wtf man thats not cool (16:09)
Me: I am about to do it (call paypal) seriously last chance (16:12)
Me: Not funny (16:14)
Me: I can't believe you did that! (17:00)

==>Day after, reappearing on the public chat..
Me: Are you shitting me or what? (6:20)
ChrisMaher96I: will give you a refund. Soon (6:23)
Me: are you just kidding me I am mad, you are just lucky you are not in front of me!! (6:23)
Me: refund? (6:23)
Me: sent the bitcoin or cancel the paypal transaction (6:24)
Me: NOW!!! (6:24)
ChrisMaher96Yes, I used the money to purchase Advertising on AdFocus. Once the ad is approved I'll login to PayPal and refund the money. (6:24)
ChrisMaher96That way, you get your money, and I get to rip off AdFocus... hehe (6:24)

...decency forbids me to go on :

Now I can't care too much about 40 bucks, let's say it's the price of a lesson, I nevertheless believe the community should come down with the greatest fury on this kind of behaviors that cast a black-hat cloud on cryptocurrencies.

Mainstream will stay away from it, as they are more and more associated with greed, child porn, internet scams, hacking, gambling and prostitution, guys... that's not good!! If you value your cryptrowallets and the price attached to it, this kind of scams need to be reduced to a minimum. I don't know how, but that is going to be the main hurdle to mainstream, it's blatant.

All I know is that I am/was on the market for bitcoins, because I wanted to use websites that accept cc, and play a bit on the exchange, I mean use them, I like the concept. I think Yacoin and it's CPU friendly inception could reinvigorate the all concept and with the plug and mine software you have nowadays...

But so far I have spent time and money, and had to deal with shady characters that make me go paranoid about every bit that passes my firewall. Not a great experience so far...

I still have not done any business here but I would look for people that have good reputation.

I didn't see this thread until RonSwanson contacted me on pm.
I can't change my username, so for now I will not make another account.

If it was a fake name, then he couldn't even have his paypal up and running. As you should know, paypal is requiring proof of SSN, Poof of ID, and proof of address. And this is not just for old accounts either. Also, paypal can tell if the email was just created, or what it has been used for. They can also scan names to tell if the name is fake or not. Paypal is very thorough.

You're only 12 posts deep! You can't like the name that much. I would start again if I was you.

EDIT: btw, I am NOT stryder starting again... 

You mean... trust the escrow guy?

Just to be clear with everyone here. I am NOT the person from Bitcoinary! Although it's a big coincidence that we have the same user name.
I hope that RonSwanson will have his money back. 

Unfortunately it's easier said than done. It's quite difficult to find anything conclusive since it's probably a fake name. I WILL however, send them emails to multiple accounts so the message gets through. It would just be disgraceful if they actually sided with this criminal.

You're welcome. People like this need to be outed, especially since "Stryder" is apparently on this forum.

Okay.
call Paypal.
Dispute the charge as an unauthorized charge.
Tell them that it wasn't you who made the transfer and it was your cousin/brother/sister who did it when you had your PayPal account logged in.

Thanks for the heads up about this dude and will avoid him.

Forget about submitting the dispute using paypal web site. Search Google for paypal support/scam emails. Paypal has a lot of emails where you can send logs/scansto open a dispute. Send them to two or three different addresses. Explain he is doing this to other people. Paypal hate people that use them to sell bitcoins (actually, they hate bitcoin and is against their TOS to sell currency), therefore they might go along just to teach a lesson to the seller. Of course, they might decide to teach both of you a lesson, freezing his account, but without paying you back. Typical paypal reaction. But at least he will get a lesson too.
Google also his email/name accounts; usually, you will find other emails/accounts he is using on other websites and you might find other paypal accounts (or other reversible systems, where you can try your luck) that he is using, just in case that one is empty of money.
It's very easy to track a seller on the Internet, they all use foruns, etc.
You might end up finding his facebook or other private info and then you will have means to go to authorities, threat him to write to his family about him, etc. Basically, make his life miserable.

This kind of users need to be banned forever!

How do you know this? Because I gave them a call and they basically said nothing could be done due to the gifting thing.
I DID however, send them a detailed email providing image proof that I was basically scammed, so that's good. See, by phone they can't see shit. This email detailed everything that happened, his remarks, non-responses, sarcastic replies suggesting his scamming nature. I also linked to other Bitcoinary orders which listed him as a scammer. I won't stop sending those emails until I get my money back. Surely it can't be too hard for them to pull it off. Taking the point that shibaji made, I said how he made me send it as a gift because that was how he'd accept it, and then in the second account when I talked about escrow and secure payment he rejected it. I can't get my point across about how pathetic this guy is.

Anyway, I hope this helps. I thank you all for your continued support and replies.

paypal will take care of it. Just tell them it was a scam,attach whatever proof you have to your complaint and you'll have your money back within a week,his account will get closed. They really don't like scammers

https://i.imgur.com/qc6xWUX.png

There's the "fee". It definitely is a gift, because when I try to dispute the claim, boom: it's a gift and I can't.

Yeah, that's actually interesting. I thought a gift was meant to be a, well... gift, no charge. I'll take a look.

Ahhh ... paypal cash - that's very unfortunate, as this is completely in paypal's hand. In future please keep at least one more option open. However, if you had paypal cash, then you should not have paid a fee to gift - that does no add up.