Topic: Bitcoin PayPal Scammer on this forum - page 2. (Read 1892 times)
Unfortunately I did not use a credit card, but the PayPal credit. Another stupid mistake. Read your thread, glad you got your money back. $2000! That's unbelievable. Makes $234 look like much less, but that's still a significant amount for me. Hopefully he's either caught or comes around, but judging by his "lulz" comment at the end of the recent one, seems like he's just being a scammer, with no chance of redemption. Ugh.
Is there ANYTHING I can do now?
Yes:
1. Keep all records of conversation with scammer
2. If you used credit card, chargeback, or if you used bank transfer, reverse it
I gave them a call, and nothing could be done even though I said how clicking gift was accidental. Absolutely fucking pissed. The worst part is, they didn't have any way of me contacting them, providing evidence of the bullshit through the messages. It's like: "yeah we'll look at the account", but NOTHING beyond that. And what's worse is how he will CONTINUE to get away with this shit as long as he's up. PayPal just sees money and their fee, and lets the criminal walk. Disgraceful. And even worse, he's practically admitted the scam. Here's a recent chat log:
https://i.imgur.com/NTmf15S.png
I'm just sickened by people sometimes. I guess we all have to learn lessons the hard way, like the Bluth kids.
https://i.imgur.com/NTmf15S.png
I'm just sickened by people sometimes. I guess we all have to learn lessons the hard way, like the Bluth kids.
You made a mistake by saying it is accidental to choose gift. Should have said the truth - that seller asked you to, as he had problems accepting purchase payment. I have been scammed before by similar technique, and I have been honest throughout, and got my full payment back (lookup dayasinfo in the forum and my thread about that scammer).
Social engineering is at large in this forum. Be careful, and do not trust anyone other that the ones you trust
Hope you have become 100X wiser with this incident - it certainly was a revealing moment for me. However, your next steps:
1. Keep all records of conversation with scammer
2. If you used credit card, chargeback, or if you used bank transfer, reverse it
You will win this, as the scammer will have nothing to deliver you - at this point, you will probably have to mention your bitcoins were casascius, and thus tangible (if you have already mentioned bitcoin), otherwise just say you were expecting something tangible - like gold.
The problem is, I doubt it would've changed much. I did mention how it was a scam and I realised the whole "gift" thing after I'd done it (which was true, and I also paid the $2 fee).
As well as that, I told them how he'd done it before and they didn't even care at all. Like, if I'm telling the truth about it all, why would they continue to let the account stand and then do other crap to people's accounts for much less "offenses"? It just seems so hit and miss with this.
Is there ANYTHING I can do now? Maybe more people can go to Bitcoinary and message him asking for coins and seeing what he says. I have three separate accounts that I've messaged him with and the second and third time it's made clear that he's not going to conduct his business where YOU are actually secured like with Escrow or whatever. People like this, I mean seriously.. Terrible.
I shall find the "dayasinfo" thread. I didn't specifically say Bitcoins, but "online item". Thanks for the help so far. Seems like a pretty cool community here, I'll stick around
I gave them a call, and nothing could be done even though I said how clicking gift was accidental. Absolutely fucking pissed. The worst part is, they didn't have any way of me contacting them, providing evidence of the bullshit through the messages. It's like: "yeah we'll look at the account", but NOTHING beyond that. And what's worse is how he will CONTINUE to get away with this shit as long as he's up. PayPal just sees money and their fee, and lets the criminal walk. Disgraceful. And even worse, he's practically admitted the scam. Here's a recent chat log:
https://i.imgur.com/NTmf15S.png
I'm just sickened by people sometimes. I guess we all have to learn lessons the hard way, like the Bluth kids.
https://i.imgur.com/NTmf15S.png
I'm just sickened by people sometimes. I guess we all have to learn lessons the hard way, like the Bluth kids.
You made a mistake by saying it is accidental to choose gift. Should have said the truth - that seller asked you to, as he had problems accepting purchase payment. I have been scammed before by similar technique, and I have been honest throughout, and got my full payment back (lookup dayasinfo in the forum and my thread about that scammer).
Social engineering is at large in this forum. Be careful, and do not trust anyone other that the ones you trust
Hope you have become 100X wiser with this incident - it certainly was a revealing moment for me. However, your next steps:
1. Keep all records of conversation with scammer
2. If you used credit card, chargeback, or if you used bank transfer, reverse it
You will win this, as the scammer will have nothing to deliver you - at this point, you will probably have to mention your bitcoins were casascius, and thus tangible (if you have already mentioned bitcoin), otherwise just say you were expecting something tangible - like gold.
I gave them a call, and nothing could be done even though I said how clicking gift was accidental. Absolutely fucking pissed. The worst part is, they didn't have any way of me contacting them, providing evidence of the bullshit through the messages. It's like: "yeah we'll look at the account", but NOTHING beyond that. And what's worse is how he will CONTINUE to get away with this shit as long as he's up. PayPal just sees money and their fee, and lets the criminal walk. Disgraceful. And even worse, he's practically admitted the scam. Here's a recent chat log:
https://i.imgur.com/NTmf15S.png
I'm just sickened by people sometimes. I guess we all have to learn lessons the hard way, like the Bluth kids.
https://i.imgur.com/NTmf15S.png
I'm just sickened by people sometimes. I guess we all have to learn lessons the hard way, like the Bluth kids.
that sucks. btc scams are going to be commonplace for a long time to come.
"We're sorry, but this transaction cannot be disputed because it is not a purchase of goods or services. Please contact the recipient directly."
This is the message I received when trying to file a PayPal claim. Shit.
This is the message I received when trying to file a PayPal claim. Shit.
For gift, you cannot do it online. Call them and explain you have been scammed.
Maybe, call PayPal and raise a ruckus. Worse thing they can do is say too bad so sad. 
Rule #1: Trust no one. Use escrow.
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"We're sorry, but this transaction cannot be disputed because it is not a purchase of goods or services. Please contact the recipient directly."
This is the message I received when trying to file a PayPal claim. Shit.
This is the message I received when trying to file a PayPal claim. Shit.
If the account has been emptied you'll get nothing from Paypal.
open a dispute, then his money will be blocked. However, if he took the money away already, paypal can not do anything.
Does this mean, if he transferred the funds from his account? Damn, that would suck hard. There would have to be a way for PayPal to compensate.
Thanks everyone.
I won't lie to them, I'll just tell them the truth, because I did make the mistake of falling for it. But yeah, just thought I'd let you know about Stryder, and how he's a thief and has done it multiple times. It's a real shame when the brilliance of Bitcoin is undermined by people who scam others. Even worse is how the price is lower than what I paid for the bitcoins now, so I should've waiting.
Thanks again, this forum has some great posts on it, good stuff.
I won't lie to them, I'll just tell them the truth, because I did make the mistake of falling for it. But yeah, just thought I'd let you know about Stryder, and how he's a thief and has done it multiple times. It's a real shame when the brilliance of Bitcoin is undermined by people who scam others. Even worse is how the price is lower than what I paid for the bitcoins now, so I should've waiting.
Thanks again, this forum has some great posts on it, good stuff.
open a dispute, then his money will be blocked. However, if he took the money away already, paypal can not do anything.
yeah you should be able to get the money back
A chargeback shouldn't be too hard. best of luck retrieving the coins, there's a very good chance Paypal will side with you, so shouldn't be any problems.
1. Either go through your bank and reverse
2. Or if used credit card - much easier - chargeback
in both cases, say the truth - seller scammed. You got covered.
2. Or if used credit card - much easier - chargeback
in both cases, say the truth - seller scammed. You got covered.
Yes, unauthorized charge is meant to be if someone literally got into your account and sends it, but I don't think PayPal will check if it was really unauthorized.
They do and they will. The only way that works is if you purposely make it look like your account got hacked at the time you sent the money. So, the bad guys always win.Yes, unauthorized charge is meant to be if someone literally got into your account and sends it, but I don't think PayPal will check if it was really unauthorized.
They do and they will. The only way that works is if you purposely make it look like your account got hacked at the time you sent the money. So, the bad guys always win. Jump to: