Regarding BetDSI - you might wanna strike them off the list. Not offering poker services anymore.
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Nice thread, OP, thanks for taking the time.
Regarding BetDSI - you might wanna strike them off the list. Not offering poker services anymore.
Regarding BetDSI - you might wanna strike them off the list. Not offering poker services anymore.
First of all I'm going to let everyone know that I am one of the largest affiliate for Betcoin; take it for what it's worth. Second of all I have to point out that Twitchy didn't list the rewards or rake information for the sites. After all that's an important aspect of a poker room that players care about.
Also I think part of the reason traffic has been down lately is because it's summer time (people are out more) and because of the WSOP.
Also I think part of the reason traffic has been down lately is because it's summer time (people are out more) and because of the WSOP.
Rakeback/VIP program structures will be explained in summaries, I'll get them up after sunday. I didn't include them in the chart because they are complicated.
Xiaos affiliate is probably the only affiliate that's worth mentioning because of Betcoins corrupt way of doing business. My trust feedback of Xiao goes into more detail, I'll leave it out of this thread for now.
First of all I'm going to let everyone know that I am one of the largest affiliate for Betcoin; take it for what it's worth. Second of all I have to point out that Twitchy didn't list the rewards or rake information for the sites. After all that's an important aspect of a poker room that players care about.
Also I think part of the reason traffic has been down lately is because it's summer time (people are out more) and because of the WSOP.
Also I think part of the reason traffic has been down lately is because it's summer time (people are out more) and because of the WSOP.
** I am involved with Moneypot.com that is considering adding Poker in the future
As an individual, thank you for putting this list together.
From my experience, SWC is usually more in the 6-24 hours range, but is one of my favourite poker rooms (despite occasional crashes).
I'd recommend a '5' level for well beyond 24 hours. BCP (while having an amazing amount of traffic from the WPN network) has always been at least 24 hours but more like an average time of 3-5 days.
Ideally, I'd like to see ONE big poker hub, even if it meant several sites each connecting to the same network.
Too many with low amount of visitors makes it discouraging to expect to always have a game when you want to.
As an individual, thank you for putting this list together.
From my experience, SWC is usually more in the 6-24 hours range, but is one of my favourite poker rooms (despite occasional crashes).
I'd recommend a '5' level for well beyond 24 hours. BCP (while having an amazing amount of traffic from the WPN network) has always been at least 24 hours but more like an average time of 3-5 days.
Ideally, I'd like to see ONE big poker hub, even if it meant several sites each connecting to the same network.
Too many with low amount of visitors makes it discouraging to expect to always have a game when you want to.
That's awesome. Do you know what you're doing for software? I just checked out cyberdecks desktop client earlier, seemed decent and they have all your favorite draw/ofc game. No games so i didn't bother depositing.
ty for update on cashouts,
How do these look?
1)Instant
2)1-6 hours
3)6 - 24 hours
4)1-3 days
5)4+ days
Now I think it might be better to just the put the ave wait time instead of 1-5
I thouht betcoin.ag is on the WPN network but your chart shows WTN...
Please let me know what WTN stands for.
Nice thread, I will keep an eye on it.
I'm going to have more explanations up there soon. But basically Winning Poker Network (WPN) = 6 or 7 sites (fiat based) that share liquidity in all games. Wpn created the Winning Tournament Network (WTN) to increase their player pool. Please let me know what WTN stands for.
Nice thread, I will keep an eye on it.
Basically if you license the igtsoft software, they will let your players play select mtts/sngs and I think they just split the fee.
WTN = No WPN Cash games, jackpot sngs (might change) or limited promotions.
Nice work.
Wtf is "red latina" network?
Wtf is "red latina" network?
It is some kind of Argentinian network. At any Fortunejack table you will typically find ~90% of players are from Argentina. Lots of spanish 'jajaja' at the table, and SUPER fishy.
Nice work.
Wtf is "red latina" network?
Wtf is "red latina" network?
It is some kind of Argentinian network. At any Fortunejack table you will typically find ~90% of players are from Argentina. Lots of spanish 'jajaja' at the table, and SUPER fishy.
I thouht betcoin.ag is on the WPN network but your chart shows WTN...
Please let me know what WTN stands for.
Nice thread, I will keep an eye on it.
Please let me know what WTN stands for.
Nice thread, I will keep an eye on it.
** I am involved with Moneypot.com that is considering adding Poker in the future
As an individual, thank you for putting this list together.
From my experience, SWC is usually more in the 6-24 hours range, but is one of my favourite poker rooms (despite occasional crashes).
I'd recommend a '5' level for well beyond 24 hours. BCP (while having an amazing amount of traffic from the WPN network) has always been at least 24 hours but more like an average time of 3-5 days.
Ideally, I'd like to see ONE big poker hub, even if it meant several sites each connecting to the same network.
Too many with low amount of visitors makes it discouraging to expect to always have a game when you want to.
As an individual, thank you for putting this list together.
From my experience, SWC is usually more in the 6-24 hours range, but is one of my favourite poker rooms (despite occasional crashes).
I'd recommend a '5' level for well beyond 24 hours. BCP (while having an amazing amount of traffic from the WPN network) has always been at least 24 hours but more like an average time of 3-5 days.
Ideally, I'd like to see ONE big poker hub, even if it meant several sites each connecting to the same network.
Too many with low amount of visitors makes it discouraging to expect to always have a game when you want to.
Nice work.
Wtf is "red latina" network?
Wtf is "red latina" network?
The fact we don't have a Bitcoin Poker Site with a weekly average of 300 or more active, real money players is a result of unprofessional, poorly managed sites who are rarely held accountable for their mistakes.
One reason, imo, is due to certain sites (Betcoin, FortuneJack) choosing to rely on paid campaigns and bribes instead of a quality product to build a good reputation and maintain the appearance of a transparent, public image. I hope eventually to convince enough players to take this practice for what it is; corruption.
In addition to providing a place for anyone to find all the basic facts, I hope this thread will help us find the best way to hold sites accountable, which will result in enough transparency and honesty to change the image the rest of the world has of "Bitcoin Poker"
One reason, imo, is due to certain sites (Betcoin, FortuneJack) choosing to rely on paid campaigns and bribes instead of a quality product to build a good reputation and maintain the appearance of a transparent, public image. I hope eventually to convince enough players to take this practice for what it is; corruption.
In addition to providing a place for anyone to find all the basic facts, I hope this thread will help us find the best way to hold sites accountable, which will result in enough transparency and honesty to change the image the rest of the world has of "Bitcoin Poker"
This thread is a place to share information and ideas on how we can make a better future for Unregulated Online Poker.
I will do my best to keep OP up to date with the most recent information so everyone can be aware of all their options.
Let me know if anything is wrong, a stat or site needs to be added or anything else you think will make it better.
I will do my best to keep OP up to date with the most recent information so everyone can be aware of all their options.
Let me know if anything is wrong, a stat or site needs to be added or anything else you think will make it better.
- swcpoker.eu
Formerly known as sealswithclubs, tymicon, the original bitcoin poker site.
Unfortunately not too many exciting promos or changes worth mentioning, payouts are seem to be steady as usual though. - bovada.lv
Known as Bodog until 2012 (DOJ seized domain, indicted CEO Calvin Ayres) the third largest site in the world has been accepting Bitcoin for just a couple months.
It's completely anonymous poker, no screen names - just numbers.
The payouts are getting mixed reviews, from a few hours to a few weeks. Support doesn't seem to know much about bitcoin, which is understandable (old dog:new tricks), I would be wary at this point before moving a big chunk of bankroll over there.
WPN/WTN General Info:
Compatible Software: (don't think anything is banned, although indicator probably should be)
Pokertracker4, HEM2, All the indicator software, TableTamer (not TableNinja), Sharkscope HUD
Weekly rake races for Tournaments and Cash games. (sit n crush, the beast)
Most tournaments are re-entry. Most re-entries are very long (2-4 hours). This is how they are able to offer large guarantees which in turn attracts more players.
50NL/plo and higher cash games are tough games full of regs milking the rake race. If you've played less than a million hands lifetime you are probably not beating them. - 5dimes
- bookmaker.eu
Part of the Winning Poker Network
Fiat based sports books that have been around the longest. (Bookmaker was launched by BetCris when BetCris stopped taking action from US residents) Identity verification is only required for players who have made non-bitcoin deposits. Stick with Bitcoin, no dox needed.
They both share total liquidity with other WPN skins (All mtts, Jackpot SNGs, SNGs, Cash Games)
5dimes offers a smaller network in addition to WPN call "The Grand Poker Room" I'm not going to go into much detail here since it's so small.
Deposits and withdraws are processed by the same company, EPAY (I believe they also handle all customer service).
They both offer 27% rakeback OR a vip program. If you want the 27%, contact support. Otherwise the default is vip program (interested in which to choose? Check out THIS 2P2 THREAD )
Issues:
- Anytime you interact with CS, you'll be asked to give your account number and password in cleartext! It's really weird, but it's how they do things.
Solution:
Use a secure password for the poker client, you will never have to provide it. Keep your balance in the poker client between sessions unless you want to withdraw.
Deposits are instantly converted to USD and credited to your sports account. They can be transferred instantly back and forth from within the poker client. Your withdraw is converted back to BTC based on the price at time of request.
-Important emails regarding your account are often missed since they look like spam - Americascardroom.com
- Blackchippoker.eu
Part of the Winning Poker Network
These sites offer the same rakeback/vip programs and shared liquidity but require proof of identity and residence. Occasionally they have unique promotions.
The guy in charge of ACR is also the WPN Tournament Director. He's easy to get in contact with directly if anyone needs in the WPN sub-forum on 2P2: LINK (his forum name is Winning_TD)
Issues:
-Bitcoin withdraws tend to take longer than 5dime or Bookmaker.
-If you don't want to provide your dox or can't prove you live in a state they allow, don't bother trying to play on ACR or BCP. - BetcoinPoker.ag
Part of the Winning Tournament Network (Limited shared liquidity with WPN. Select MTTs and sngs only)
No Documents required for any reason.
Deposits and withdraws are only made with Bitcoin or Litecoin.
In addition to WPN MTTs/SNGs, they offer a smaller tournament schedule, sngs and cashgames played for Bitcoin. (same as seals, 1 btc = 1,000 chips)
Decent vip program for Betcoin only games as long as you sign up with Xiaoxiao <---AFFILIATE LINK ( he will pay you 'around' 40% rakeback on Betcoin only games, and some mystery amount on WPN tournaments )
Tablestarter promotion
Issues:
- Players are often not refunded when unregistering and not paid when winning a satellite or bounty. (or many other reasons) Normally this wouldn't be a huge deal except:
- No tournament history available for players or support! (Tracking software plus diligent record keeping is a must for any volume tournament player)
- If you signed up under any affiliate other than Xiaoxiao, support might be able to switch you (if your affiliate doesn't mind being poached) otherwise you will be faced with the ethical dilemma of creating a new account or losing 'around' 40% of your rake for life.
-It's possible Xiaoxiao will skim your rakeback. If so, it may or may not be worth it to argue with him over it.
-VIP rewards/rakeback payments from WPN Tournaments are a complete mystery to everyone (including support). Unless something has changed recently, if you play mid+ stakes mtts, you will be underpaid. Convincing them to pay you the difference may not be worth your time.
-Don't sit HU cash, rake is not capped.
-They put most of their available effort and funding into appearing transparent and honest (sig campaign, paid reviews, "we <3 Betcoin promos") rather than earning it the way a transparent and honest company would.
-All of THIS
Betonline.ag
nitrogensports.eu
cyberdeckpoker.com
fortunejack.com
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- No affiliate links
- No Begging for anything
- No riggie rants
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nothing will change the fact that the Betcoin.ag is the best BTC Casino I ever seen.I have to recommend this site cause i really love this site that is informative but i dont feel too complicated. I am someone who like things to be simple and yet this is the only site that i actually love it cause it is simple and yet it is informative. I also love that they accept many different digital currency.Betcoin poker and CASINO is the best thing to happen to online gaming in a long long time.There vip levels and rakeback are bye far the best anywhere.If you like to play poker or casino betcoin.ag is the place to be.
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