Bitcoin price is controlled not just manipulated but controlled - page 3.

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Quote from: 0t3p0t on October 15, 2019, 07:05:56 AM

I think we users are the one who controls the Bitcoin market because it's movements will always depends on our emotions and desire wehter we buy or sell.

The price of bitcoin is controlled by the users and there is no objection from anyone but you cannot invest in a market with emotions and earn any profit, market analysis and market entry is more important and if you are careful on that aspect then there is nothing that can emotionally force you to sell. When the bear market started i went completely the opposite direction, sold my coins at a profit and then wait for the bear market to settle and then reinvested again and i do not watch the market regularly as i have my target and hence the volatility and the small crashes will not trouble me.

Quote from: 0t3p0t on October 15, 2019, 07:05:56 AM

That is I think near to accurate speculation regarding the topic take note that we created bot for us to be more convenient. Prices can be manipulated by big players therefore we are the one to be behind all this.

I was thinking that you are going for an alien theory here Cheesy

. Humans controls the market but there are sectors and sections and then there is the unknown in every market, i am telling this because no one can exactly predict at what point the market moves .

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Quote from: Zeke_23 on October 15, 2019, 07:30:55 AM

Quote from: 0t3p0t on October 15, 2019, 07:05:56 AM

Quote from: Polo7 on October 14, 2019, 12:40:44 PM

Bitcoin and Other crypto bots controlling the btc price.

Bots are start buying at some spefic time.

WHO ever control those bots have control over bitcoin price!

So who is behind that bots?

I think we users are the one who controls the Bitcoin market because it's movements will always depends on our emotions and desire wehter we buy or sell. That is I think near to accurate speculation regarding the topic take note that we created bot for us to be more convenient. Prices can be manipulated by big players therefore we are the one to be behind all this.

Its users are the one who controls it, the more you have been holding a bitcoin, the more control you have, whales actually can move the price of bitcoin if they want to, and that is where manipulation of the market will flow. Us, users are actually the one who moves it.

Users were just following the way on how the whales could dominate them in terms of market adoption. Whales could do more impossible things on crypto, they'll create hype, and other ways to poison the minds of every people. Wrong information feeding is their act of manipulating people, and if they're using money to make certain ideas that could convince people or even threatened them for something, which leads other to panic selling.

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Quote from: Reid on October 15, 2019, 07:58:04 AM

Proofs and facts, show it.
We need that to be sure of everything. We cannot just shout everything that we speculate and yet we have nothing to back it up.
You said it already, those are bots. How come they could control the market with just being set by someone else.
Also, that is difficult to do.

Bots are setted up by stable coins pairs with btc.
Bots will make buy orders If they want to price to go up and sell when they want to price to go Down!!

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There are bots on both sides of the fence, so I dont believe its controlled. However, those with more money try to manipulate it.

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Proofs and facts, show it.
We need that to be sure of everything. We cannot just shout everything that we speculate and yet we have nothing to back it up.
You said it already, those are bots. How come they could control the market with just being set by someone else.
Also, that is difficult to do.

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I hope that you all understand that price cannot be controlled. It can be manipulated but this manipulation has at least 2 limitations.
1. the number of coins on exchanges available to be traded
2. the funds the manipulators have.

There's only a small part of total supply that is traded on exchanges. The rest is held or traded otc. Even from that small amount can be bought. Your first trade can deplete some orders but others have to follow with their orders for you to be able to do anything.

Not many people have enough money to manipulate the price and nobody has enough to control it, even the government.

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Quote from: 0t3p0t on October 15, 2019, 07:05:56 AM

Quote from: Polo7 on October 14, 2019, 12:40:44 PM

Bitcoin and Other crypto bots controlling the btc price.

Bots are start buying at some spefic time.

WHO ever control those bots have control over bitcoin price!

So who is behind that bots?

I think we users are the one who controls the Bitcoin market because it's movements will always depends on our emotions and desire wehter we buy or sell. That is I think near to accurate speculation regarding the topic take note that we created bot for us to be more convenient. Prices can be manipulated by big players therefore we are the one to be behind all this.

Its users are the one who controls it, the more you have been holding a bitcoin, the more control you have, whales actually can move the price of bitcoin if they want to, and that is where manipulation of the market will flow. Us, users are actually the one who moves it.

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Quote from: Polo7 on October 14, 2019, 12:40:44 PM

Bitcoin and Other crypto bots controlling the btc price.

Bots are start buying at some spefic time.

WHO ever control those bots have control over bitcoin price!

So who is behind that bots?

I think we users are the one who controls the Bitcoin market because it's movements will always depends on our emotions and desire wehter we buy or sell. That is I think near to accurate speculation regarding the topic take note that we created bot for us to be more convenient. Prices can be manipulated by big players therefore we are the one to be behind all this.

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Quote from: DabsPoorVersion on October 14, 2019, 08:21:21 PM

Quote from: mr3dds on October 14, 2019, 06:34:10 PM

This is theoretically possible. You just need to be super rich and you can affect its price dramatically. So, any one from the top 100 richest can do such control easily.

May be Buffet of Amazon's jiff.

It may be possible, but there is still no proof that this kind of thing is really happening.
Finding a proof for this information may be a bit hard, and if there is really someone controlling or manipulating the market, it might affect the whole market if discovered.

Although there is no clear evidence of price control but the feeling for this is very genuine because if only some people feel and tell this story, we may not be too believing and think they are just saying bullshit, the actual situation has said the opposite, so many people feel the control and manipulation in bitcoin. But even if a lot of people find out, this game is going on in the most normal way, they understand that this control is always an opportunity to achieve good profits, it's important that we swim in the right direction

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Bots are controlled by the program its programmer programmed into that programmable Bot.

I hope I made someone's day, not expecting though.

Bots will be bots and they will be doing what they are programmed for. I don't think we should even dig deeper about this since we all know this is a bit of an over digging about these Bots controlling Bitcoin. I don't know if someone would agree to me but the OP sounded like someone from the government asking Mark Zuckerburg how the internet works.

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The truth about manipulation is that no matter how much of a whale you are or even how many synchronized trades bots can make, manipulation is a short term game and wille ventually fail.

The Bitcoin market despite being newer is large enough to roll over manipulation when the waves truly break on the shore. The bigest example would be the falving next year. The market HAS to go up. More than likely by next christmas anyone with some coin should be giggling.

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Quote from: samcrypto on October 15, 2019, 04:08:01 AM

Its not, bitcoin is not being controlled by the bots becayse bots are just there for a busy trader and of course those traders play the game according to their plan. .

bots are useful or can be devastating depending on the user . your right , busy traders use bots and this kind of traders are sometimes big time traders which is mistaken as a whale that manipulates the market .

Quote from: minersday on October 14, 2019, 06:22:43 PM

How sure are you that bot controls the market price of Bitcoin? You should provide enough information regarding this claims to make people understand why you have an assumption on the price of Bitcoin been controlled. we all know that the price of bitcoin is mostly controlled by people with huge amount of bitcoin but not bot, so why are you saying the opposite??

yes price is controled by people but people that trades can use bots because they cant watch the market on most times . like op , other people also suspect that exchanges are invaded by bots and they both think that these bots are responsibe for the ups and downs but not just bots , regular traders that trade manually are also included on the manipulation .

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your theory about bots use might occur if all exchanges collaborate to commit fraud to cryptocurrency users,
I support what the OP says because there is no guarantee they won't do manipulation.
because so far there are no people or agencies that oversee the cryptocurrency exchange operations

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Quote from: Polo7 on October 14, 2019, 12:40:44 PM

Bitcoin and Other crypto bots controlling the btc price.

Bots are start buying at some spefic time.

WHO ever control those bots have control over bitcoin price!

So who is behind that bots?

Its not, bitcoin is not being controlled by the bots becayse bots are just there for a busy trader and of course those traders play the game according to their plan. The price moves by the demand and the supply, if you have more holdings then you can pump or dump the market but I’m sure it wont last since many whales are also in the market, not all thinks the same way to trade.

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Quote from: Polo7 on October 14, 2019, 12:40:44 PM

Bitcoin and Other crypto bots controlling the btc price.

Bots are start buying at some spefic time.

WHO ever control those bots have control over bitcoin price!

So who is behind that bots?

Yes, there are bots and we know there are also market manipulators. but bots are not enough to manipulate price. outside market also have manipulators not just bots in markets. the one that manipulate us is the news spreading all over the site and socialmedia. huge well-known people who advertise BTC and their prediction. so bots are not totally enough to manipulate the price of the market.

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Quote from: Polo7 on October 14, 2019, 01:01:27 PM

Who ever created Bitcoin knows how to manipulate.

Simple:)

Your perspective is totally wrong, no one has a sole controls over bitcoin market, users all around the world controls it, not just some groups of individuals, when ever a dump occurs, let's assume it's been dumped by whales, traders also panic sell making the dump to go further down, likewise when pumping, traders FOMO buying. That's how it works

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Quote from: goto22 on October 15, 2019, 01:49:46 AM

Quote from: Polo7 on October 14, 2019, 12:40:44 PM

Bitcoin and Other crypto bots controlling the btc price.

Bots are start buying at some spefic time.

WHO ever control those bots have control over bitcoin price!

So who is behind that bots?

This sounds like a conspiracy theory more than anything else. If you said that whales are to blame — okay, sure. If you said that the government is secretly buying BTC, okay, I can understand that. But someone controlling the bots that act in accordance with parameters you set — I'm going to need some proof of that first.

Did I mentioned government??

No I did not!

But Yes Everybody knows Now its a bots huge Network of botnets

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Quote from: Polo7 on October 14, 2019, 12:40:44 PM

Bitcoin and Other crypto bots controlling the btc price.

Bots are start buying at some spefic time.

WHO ever control those bots have control over bitcoin price!

So who is behind that bots?

This sounds like a conspiracy theory more than anything else. If you said that whales are to blame — okay, sure. If you said that the government is secretly buying BTC, okay, I can understand that. But someone controlling the bots that act in accordance with parameters you set — I'm going to need some proof of that first.

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There has long been speculation and conspiracy theories about Bitcoin Whales using trading bots to manipulate the price, but nobody is giving actual proof of this. In a open market, anyone with enough money can manipulate the price of shares or commodities in that market.

The average Bitcoin price is determined by using the price from different large Bitcoin exchanges, so you will have to have a lot of money to manipulate the price on all these exchanges to be able to push the price in a specific direction. Wink

I think there are more than one Whale doing this, but I have no proof of that. Roll Eyes

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Crypto trading bots are not superior to the manual/human trading. Even if we use trading bots we still need to facilitate the bots since if we do not know how to use it we will end up losing our cryptocurrency. Not all the time that crypto bots brings out profitability sometimes it brings loss. So at the end it is the trader itself that needs to program the bot where to and what to buy, when to and what to sell. The only advantage of using bots is that it can run hours without resting and without being influenced by emotions. The only downward part is that if you must have a large amount of crypto and vast knowledge in trading before engaging in using it.

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