neither because those aren't the only options.
maybe back in 2010 bitcoin price was manipulated since the market size was tiny and there weren't really more than 1 major exchange by that time. nowadays the market is still small but in comparison to early years it is gigantic and more importantly there are numerous major exchanges that don't have a volume share more than 8%. nobody can manipulate or control the price in the current situation.
that doesn't mean manipulation doesn't exist though. just like any other market, bitcoin market is also susceptible to manipulations. it is the degree that keeps changing.
Topic: Bitcoin price is controlled not just manipulated but controlled - page 4. (Read 805 times)
October 14, 2019, 10:36:26 PM
October 14, 2019, 10:19:24 PM
Bitcoin and Other crypto bots controlling the btc price.
Bots are start buying at some spefic time.
WHO ever control those bots have control over bitcoin price!
So who is behind that bots?
Bots are start buying at some spefic time.
WHO ever control those bots have control over bitcoin price!
So who is behind that bots?
It could be true. But let me just state a few facts that would show that your theory is difficult to happen. There are hundreds of international cryptocurrency exchanges all over the world. And there are hundreds more local exchanges which are pretty much unknown internationally. Each of these exchanges have hundreds of trading pairs with BTC. If you want to control the BTC price with bots, you will have to infiltrate more than 50% of these pairs in these exchanges. Now, that picture makes your theory close enough to impossible.
If there are manipulators, it is the whales who are owning hundreds of thousands of BTC.
October 14, 2019, 10:17:39 PM
Bitcoin and Other crypto bots controlling the btc price.
Bots are start buying at some spefic time.
WHO ever control those bots have control over bitcoin price!
So who is behind that bots?
this is a serious accusation mate that needs proofs ,yeah manipulation is not impossible because we have whales that holds big amount of bitcoin and so altcoins,but you must have pattern about those Bots and in which exchanges this happening,for sure crypto community would love to hear specifics regarding this.but if you don't have then not to make this an isue Bots are start buying at some spefic time.
WHO ever control those bots have control over bitcoin price!
So who is behind that bots?
Based on your title, control and manipulate is somehow similar with each other. When someone manipulated bitcoin's price, it means rhey can control it. So it's just the same. But how did you come up with that statement? Where's the proof to prove youe point?
each of us are looking for proofs because of this very serious talks,hope OP will put soon for better references October 14, 2019, 09:45:28 PM
Based on your title, control and manipulate is somehow similar with each other. When someone manipulated bitcoin's price, it means rhey can control it. So it's just the same. But how did you come up with that statement? Where's the proof to prove youe point?
October 14, 2019, 08:21:21 PM
This is theoretically possible. You just need to be super rich and you can affect its price dramatically. So, any one from the top 100 richest can do such control easily.
May be Buffet of Amazon's jiff.
It may be possible, but there is still no proof that this kind of thing is really happening.May be Buffet of Amazon's jiff.
Finding a proof for this information may be a bit hard, and if there is really someone controlling or manipulating the market, it might affect the whole market if discovered.
October 14, 2019, 06:34:10 PM
This is theoretically possible. You just need to be super rich and you can affect its price dramatically. So, any one from the top 100 richest can do such control easily.
May be Buffet of Amazon's jiff.
May be Buffet of Amazon's jiff.
October 14, 2019, 06:31:37 PM
We don't know how OP thinks about and claiming that Bots and the person who created bots are controlling the market price.
Such allegations and claims can't be justified. I can't see how manipulations work in a decentralized form of market and most especially for bitcoin.
Bots have their own market understanding and therefore, bots can decide their own but it doesn't mean that they know everything.
Such allegations and claims can't be justified. I can't see how manipulations work in a decentralized form of market and most especially for bitcoin.
Bots have their own market understanding and therefore, bots can decide their own but it doesn't mean that they know everything.
October 14, 2019, 06:22:43 PM
Bitcoin and Other crypto bots controlling the btc price.
Bots are start buying at some spefic time.
WHO ever control those bots have control over bitcoin price!
So who is behind that bots?
Bots are start buying at some spefic time.
WHO ever control those bots have control over bitcoin price!
So who is behind that bots?
How sure are you that bot controls the market price of Bitcoin? You should provide enough information regarding this claims to make people understand why you have an assumption on the price of Bitcoin been controlled. we all know that the price of bitcoin is mostly controlled by people with huge amount of bitcoin but not bot, so why are you saying the opposite??
October 14, 2019, 05:40:56 PM
the OP is just an alt and a spam starter(topics started by him) I would not bother asking him any question since you won't get
any reliable answer from him.
any reliable answer from him.
October 14, 2019, 05:18:21 PM
Well this is prevalent last year, 2017 we haven't heard about bots, there are just a few that I can think of. But in 2018, lots of bots coming up and many speculators/traders uses them to take advantage of ease and speed, but you still need to have experience though, because using bots is very hard as you have to set all parameters right.
As far as who is behind, we don't know, maybe some whales or traders who have had enough experience to play with it. Bots are just part of the equation now, Bots Are Manipulating Price of Bitcoin in ‘Wild West of Crypto’ .
As far as who is behind, we don't know, maybe some whales or traders who have had enough experience to play with it. Bots are just part of the equation now, Bots Are Manipulating Price of Bitcoin in ‘Wild West of Crypto’ .
October 14, 2019, 05:11:03 PM
Bitcoin and Other crypto bots controlling the btc price.
Bots are start buying at some spefic time.
WHO ever control those bots have control over bitcoin price!
So who is behind that bots?
If that's true, then whales were the one behind the bots. Someway bitcoin is being manipulated and not controlled. If it is controlled, it could've never reached such a level as now. It also falls under the list of centralized form of investment or similar to the same. Just because it is decentralized it has gained importance and stands unique among the big list of available investments. Bots are start buying at some spefic time.
WHO ever control those bots have control over bitcoin price!
So who is behind that bots?
October 14, 2019, 04:59:05 PM
Whales controlled the bots but it doesn’t mean they controlled bitcoin. This is a decentralized market, no one controls bitcoin but of course if you have more bitcoin you can affect the price, but you don’t own the whole market. There are so many bots, traders are using this for their own trading strategies its very convenient for them.
October 14, 2019, 04:49:01 PM
If there is control over the price of bitcoin, let's say price containment with the help of bots, is this not a manipulation?
I think this is also a manipulation, even if this manipulation allows the crypto market to live. After all, if you let it float freely, without the influx of new money, prices can fall so much that the market becomes much less attractive for a long time.
Any artificial interference is a manipulation.
I think the 2 terms are getting confused here.I think this is also a manipulation, even if this manipulation allows the crypto market to live. After all, if you let it float freely, without the influx of new money, prices can fall so much that the market becomes much less attractive for a long time.
Any artificial interference is a manipulation.
Control would be if a single entity or government would have the power to do anything to the coin (eg, changing the maximum supply, stopping the coin, etc). Since Bitcoin is decentralised, no one is able to control it.
Regarding manipulation, we've all seen manipulations of the Bitcoin price and other markets previously, it's nothing new and happens to all markets.
October 14, 2019, 04:40:44 PM
Then do you really think trading bots made by them or someone can really manipulate the bitcoins price? I get it that there is an existing price manipulation but using bots as an example of the one who is manipulating bitcoins price is not considerable. Bots can't work like that, yes they were used to do simultaneous trades but for controlling the price no. It will cost them more than just a bot to do that.
Actually bots just follow the algorithms on which they are created. But generally these algorithms themselves are constructed in a shady manner and take in certain variables which can manipulate the market. Anyone who has a 4-5%of daily exchange volume can easily manipulate Bots generally do this by laddering buy sell order at difference of points thus pushing price up or down.
October 14, 2019, 04:34:45 PM
If there is control over the price of bitcoin, let's say price containment with the help of bots, is this not a manipulation?
I think this is also a manipulation, even if this manipulation allows the crypto market to live. After all, if you let it float freely, without the influx of new money, prices can fall so much that the market becomes much less attractive for a long time.
Any artificial interference is a manipulation.
I think this is also a manipulation, even if this manipulation allows the crypto market to live. After all, if you let it float freely, without the influx of new money, prices can fall so much that the market becomes much less attractive for a long time.
Any artificial interference is a manipulation.
October 14, 2019, 03:27:34 PM
Then do you really think trading bots made by them or someone can really manipulate the bitcoins price? I get it that there is an existing price manipulation but using bots as an example of the one who is manipulating bitcoins price is not considerable. Bots can't work like that, yes they were used to do simultaneous trades but for controlling the price no. It will cost them more than just a bot to do that.
Actually bots just follow the algorithms on which they are created. But generally these algorithms themselves are constructed in a shady manner and take in certain variables which can manipulate the market. Anyone who has a 4-5%of daily exchange volume can easily manipulate Bots generally do this by laddering buy sell order at difference of points thus pushing price up or down. October 14, 2019, 03:07:40 PM
Any proof you have to support your statement? Some big players may use bots to trade simultaneously in more than one market so that they can take benefit of price difference. But to control the market, it requires much more than a bot! Market manipulation is easier said than done!
Have you noticed any such pattern?
Have you noticed any such pattern?
Who ever created Bitcoin knows how to manipulate.
Simple:)
These people are able to dump or pump the price and since their movements are often at times market changing, we can see the market change with them and often set trends in the market and cause snowball effects.
October 14, 2019, 02:54:36 PM
Then do you really think trading bots made by them or someone can really manipulate the bitcoins price? I get it that there is an existing price manipulation but using bots as an example of the one who is manipulating bitcoins price is not considerable. Bots can't work like that, yes they were used to do simultaneous trades but for controlling the price no. It will cost them more than just a bot to do that.
October 14, 2019, 02:42:31 PM
Bitcoin and Other crypto bots controlling the btc price.
Bots are start buying at some spefic time.
WHO ever control those bots have control over bitcoin price!
So who is behind that bots?
Bots are start buying at some spefic time.
WHO ever control those bots have control over bitcoin price!
So who is behind that bots?
This is so paranoic, yes, of course, there are bots, and of course, some people are making them and programing them, nothing new, and yes they will buy at specific times depending on the price they should be buying at a low price, so that actually helps the coin to raise the price, they influence the price a little bit like any other buyer, but total control? no, if that is the case any buyer as total control or any group of buyers, man we all control the market, and now it depends on the usage of the coin, to make more people to get involved into BTC in this case, there should be many people with bots out there no just one guy, I'm pretty sure of that.
October 14, 2019, 02:11:16 PM
There are tons of bots operating on crypto exchanges, but you are wrong if you believe bots manipulates the price
People set bots, they have to set orders to buy and sell, and this is the way they operate, nothing more, nothing less
There are some people with control over a lot of coins that can influence the market
People set bots, they have to set orders to buy and sell, and this is the way they operate, nothing more, nothing less
There are some people with control over a lot of coins that can influence the market
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