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franky1

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that chart needs changing..

the "core" nodes should be separated out so that the ones running the most recent update are categorised as deciding not to go for 2mb.. and those with older versions of core are categorised as "undecided".

then atleast it would be a fairer view of current situation. because not all people running core right now want to stick to 1mb so shouldnt be shelved into the same category that indicates they want to stick to 1mb.

surprisingly for once Lauda is using stats that is more representable of the network.. where only 0.7% increased in favour of core, but 9.7% decided on classic based on the changes between the 2 dates lauda linked

chennan

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And this is exactly why I'm not so sure about Bitcoins future in general any more... I mean c'mon... really??? There has to be a better/more democratic way to decide these things, and not have the top tier of miners and devs deciding Bitcoins fate from here on out. What happened to the idea of getting away from centralization and the Fed? I guess this ideal doesn't really matter to people any more, and people are only buying into Bitcoin for speculation of making a couple extra dollars...

Jet Cash

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What a shame that Bitcoin users can only vote with their feet. Without users, the whole system will die.

Lauda

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Quote from: johnyj on February 11, 2016, 12:16:50 PM

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That's quite unreliable as you can't see the exact numbers. All I can clearly see is mostly XT nodes switching to Classic and Core nodes fluctuating as always.

johnyj

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Quote from: Lauda on February 11, 2016, 12:11:39 PM

Quote from: johnyj on February 11, 2016, 11:55:12 AM

Really? I see a surge of classic nodes following the announcement

Here we go again. When the number of nodes is not in favor of a controversial HF then you guys claim that it does not really matter, but as soon as the numbers start growing then they suddenly do. Roll Eyes

Quote from: johnyj on February 11, 2016, 11:55:12 AM

and this time they are switching from existing core nodes, core nodes counts are dropping

Jan 29:
Classic 0.11.2: 22 Nodes
Core (all versions total): 3796
Other: 1695

Feb 10:
Classic 0.11.2: 589
Core (all versions total): 3825
Other: 1395.

"Switching", "dropping". Roll Eyes

Lauda

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Quote from: johnyj on February 11, 2016, 11:55:12 AM

Really? I see a surge of classic nodes following the announcement

Here we go again. When the number of nodes is not in favor of a controversial HF then you guys claim that it does not really matter, but as soon as the numbers start growing then they suddenly do. Roll Eyes

Quote from: johnyj on February 11, 2016, 11:55:12 AM

and this time they are switching from existing core nodes, core nodes counts are dropping

Jan 29:
Classic 0.11.2: 22 Nodes
Core (all versions total): 3796
Other: 1695

Feb 10:
Classic 0.11.2: 589
Core (all versions total): 3825
Other: 1395.

"Switching", "dropping". Roll Eyes

johnyj

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Quote from: Lauda on February 11, 2016, 10:53:45 AM

Quote from: johnyj on February 11, 2016, 10:46:06 AM

Another TBF, let's see how far they go Wink

This can't even be compared to the TBF. Stop your rumbling. It is the end of BU and Classic. I wonder what the next controversial HF will be called, 'Bitcoin Original' maybe?

Really? I see a surge of classic nodes following the announcement, and this time they are switching from existing core nodes, core nodes counts are dropping

bargainbin

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Quote from: Lauda on February 11, 2016, 11:01:24 AM

Quote from: bargainbin on February 11, 2016, 10:55:01 AM

Nah, it doesn't represent the miners OR the pool operators.
Same pool operators were pro-core after LukeJr. threatened them, then pro-Classic when the threat proved to be trolling, now again pro-Core after having been granted a seat @ Bitcoin Bilderberg Group.

Keep drinking the kool-aid. Classic is DOA.

Quote from: bargainbin on February 11, 2016, 10:55:01 AM

Nah, it doesn't represent the miners OR the pool operators.

When you "have the support of the pools", they are important and represent all the miners, but when you don't then they aren't and don't represent anything. You're making it too obvious and easy. Roll Eyes

Only suggesting that the miners (pool operators) will say whatever suits the moment. Real, rational human beings can't possibly bounce from one extreme to the other thrice within a month.
The whole thing is fueled by [petty] backroom dealings & [equally petty] posturing, making it painfully clear how Bitcoin really works; that Bitcoin's consensus mechanism is a muddled junkie's pipe dream. Though, I concede, somewhat funnier & less practical.

Lauda

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Quote from: bargainbin on February 11, 2016, 10:55:01 AM

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Quote from: bargainbin on February 11, 2016, 10:55:01 AM

Nah, it doesn't represent the miners OR the pool operators.

When you "have the support of the pools", they are important and represent all the miners, but when you don't then they aren't and don't represent anything. You're making it too obvious and easy. Roll Eyes

Classic is DOA.

bargainbin

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Quote from: Lauda on February 11, 2016, 10:43:17 AM

Quote from: Patatas on February 11, 2016, 10:36:10 AM

Welcome centralization,we're expecting this.The comment that caught my attention was right below the article and makes sense."The pool administrators who have signed this statement represent ~90% of the hashing power on the network, but this does not necessarily represent the miners themselves.

Nah, it doesn't represent the miners OR the pool operators.
Same pool operators were pro-core after LukeJr. threatened them, then pro-Classic when the threat proved to be trolling, now again pro-Core after having been granted a seat @ Bitcoin Bilderberg Group.

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That guy is trying to spread FUD about Core's intentions. It seems like these kinds of attacks have just begun. If you want to drink the kool-aid and submit to such, go ahead. The miners won't risk reducing the value of their coins.
...

Miners don't hold their coins, they *sell* them to the highest bidder. That bidder is, inevitably, the guy with fiat money, not the guy with BTC. Duh.

Lauda

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Quote from: johnyj on February 11, 2016, 10:46:06 AM

Another TBF, let's see how far they go Wink

This can't even be compared to the TBF. Stop your rumbling. It is the end of BU and Classic. I wonder what the next controversial HF will be called, 'Bitcoin Original' maybe?

johnyj

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Another TBF, let's see how far they go Wink

I doubt at this stage, a hard fork becomes inevitable, you can't walk towards east and west at the same time. Satoshi's 1 million coins will make sure the chain he does not like sink to the bottom of the sea

Lauda

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Quote from: Patatas on February 11, 2016, 10:36:10 AM

Welcome centralization,we're expecting this.The comment that caught my attention was right below the article and makes sense."The pool administrators who have signed this statement represent ~90% of the hashing power on the network, but this does not necessarily represent the miners themselves.

That guy is trying to spread FUD about Core's intentions. It seems like these kinds of attacks have just begun. If you want to drink the kool-aid and submit to such, go ahead. The miners won't risk reducing the value of their coins.

Quote from: johnyj on February 11, 2016, 10:12:35 AM

This is your new Federal Reserve Grin

It seems like you guys are salty. Wink

Patatas

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Welcome centralization,we're expecting this.The comment that caught my attention was right below the article and makes sense."The pool administrators who have signed this statement represent ~90% of the hashing power on the network, but this does not necessarily represent the miners themselves.
I advise any Bitcoin miners belonging to these pools, who feel misrepresented by this statement, to join pools (or form them) that will advance Bitcoin’s hard fork to 2 MB."
And there's more : https://medium.com/@drwasho/the-pool-administrators-who-have-signed-this-statement-represent-70-of-the-hashing-power-on-the-4fbdca201778#.skcl9nhbf

jyakulis

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johnyj

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This is your new Federal Reserve Grin

https://medium.com/@bitcoinroundtable/a-call-for-consensus-d96d5560d8d6#.rtyxn51c7

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