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No I dont escrow anymore.
I did not reply to this because I did not think it was necessary. As I said before, it proves that you owned the account once, but it does not prove that you did not stage the hack. I dont believe you did. As Quickseller told you and as I told you via PM, it is in your best interest to convince as many people as possible and the best way to do this is to post the proof you have publicly.

Incase you are planning change the address, a small warning to you. I have captured your profile https://archive.today/AnssY

Do you have full faith in these types of sites? that capture an image like you just did
-snip-

To be frank for a second. Your proof also depends on "these types of sites", at least a bit.

I have no problem to send a small amount to 19TDsep1Jhm4VDkbZK28tPze3pXhDwT8V4. Its a shared wallet so you can not sign a message, but I dont think its helping.

TX ID -> 2cd89c2364ca2a1aa1884c1f8f879061335132b3326e1c7dd1b48856e2e42684
link -> https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/tx/2cd89c2364ca2a1aa1884c1f8f879061335132b3326e1c7dd1b48856e2e42684

Code:
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
This is shorena from bitcointalk.org and today is 2015.03.13
I am in control of the address 1NfSYk1LFkfmFRmHw1LLr3jbCJXonYKzyK
and just send a small amount to TerraMaster / MinermanNC.
Please return the funds as donation to my node
-> 14GXh8khHXd8p4nQRCQdWi7fvHsNCDBkTG

-Sho
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1NfSYk1LFkfmFRmHw1LLr3jbCJXonYKzyK
IPkjckGXR/FhY22ctRmyjFcLZOBSee4G24PHbtp0LMYYK52wkH/DTPw+Fq9WIRZkAE3aA+3eRV7fyADz1UJZzXs=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
sr. member
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Incase you are planning change the address, a small warning to you. I have captured your profile https://archive.today/AnssY
Are you an Admin? ... why do you seem so doubtful?, and no, take all the images you need too. I have nothing to hide. I am just giving the Admins time. I only sent them the documents 2 days ago, well 3 with today.. I think lol, and I am not going to bring in the devs that have verified me yet. Like the Admins here, they are very busy people, but in my corner now. Besides I think most know I am telling the truth. People just get a thrill out of beating up others in Bitcointalk. I have seen it over and over, but try to rise above it. I came here looking for help and I have been treated like I have done something wrong. Its like I am the guilty one until proven innocent, I mean, I never ever expected this when I started this thread. But that's ok, Ill do whatever it takes.

Actually I think the most realistic poster in here so far has been the fellow who has my MinermanNC account. And he more than anyone probably has put 2 and 2 together and is torn. And I understand because he got ripped off too. I believe he didn't steal my account, he was duped. He is as frustrated as I am no doubt. I guess I just want to have all doubt removed, that it is my account, for the rest in here. Then we'll go from there.  
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I prefer Zakir over Muhammed when mentioning me!
Incase you are planning change the address, a small warning to you. I have captured your profile https://archive.today/AnssY
hero member
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I prefer Zakir over Muhammed when mentioning me!
Just in case I need them, I have 2 coin devs ready to show proof that they have already verified its me MinermanNC.

New 2 people came into this now. Can you give links to their account? Why can't you post proof yourself?

I told them just to hang tight and if needed they will give verification to shorena and theymos. But that should not be needed.

I like you! So you admitted shorena and theymos doesn't have proof now but they might get it if you tell your devs? Interesting. Why isn't it needed? You should post proof here if you want your community to believe you.

And I was only poking fun at quickseller  Grin  I do like him

Most scammers make fun of the persons who reveal their scam-play.

I really want to post my proof, and by the way, besides quickseller googling the one BTC signature address, has anyone google'd the one I have in my profile here yet? (hint hint) Believe me its been a profile signature before.....

Are you deliberately avoiding or you didn't see it? Thank you for telling and sorry for the negative feedback. I will remove it once you are prooven innocent.
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I will show the proof after shorena has sent a test deposit and is satisfied. The proof is an unedited post of my BTC signature address for MinermanNC, before it was scrubbed by the thief. The entire profile is there, as requested and is the very same address you see now in this new account TerraMaster. I just feel its more proper to let the admins look, test and confirm.

I made some searching but I couldn't find a post which has 19TDsep1Jhm4VDkbZK28tPze3pXhDwT8V4. When I checked in explorer, it was last used on 2014-04-01 23:09:02(TXID:831654352a0d578137fbbc840430338034ad28746ea351f7f52963723a486aeb)

I know you are all waiting to see that proof.. lol,

Just like what scammers do...

I didn't think it was up to the community to be the judge and the Jury. This what we have Admins for right?

Admins are part of the big community. They alone can't be a community, they need everybody and their help. Also, if communtiy don't believe you, you may not be able to do any trades here.

Quickseller, you would have made a great prosecutor for the court system!  Grin man you leave no stone unturned lol

What was in your mind when you wrote this? Be frank! Wink
Just in case I need them, I have 2 coin devs ready to show proof that they have already verified its me MinermanNC. I told them just to hang tight and if needed they will give verification to shorena and theymos. But that should not be needed.

And I was only poking fun at quickseller  Grin  I do like him

I really want to post my proof, and by the way, besides quickseller googling the one BTC signature address, has anyone google'd the one I have in my profile here yet? (hint hint) Believe me its been a profile signature before.....

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I will show the proof after shorena has sent a test deposit and is satisfied. The proof is an unedited post of my BTC signature address for MinermanNC, before it was scrubbed by the thief. The entire profile is there, as requested and is the very same address you see now in this new account TerraMaster. I just feel its more proper to let the admins look, test and confirm.

I made some searching but I couldn't find a post which has 19TDsep1Jhm4VDkbZK28tPze3pXhDwT8V4. When I checked in explorer, it was last used on 2014-04-01 23:09:02(TXID:831654352a0d578137fbbc840430338034ad28746ea351f7f52963723a486aeb)

I know you are all waiting to see that proof.. lol,

Just like what scammers do...

I didn't think it was up to the community to be the judge and the Jury. This what we have Admins for right?

Admins are part of the big community. They alone can't be a community, they need everybody and their help. Also, if communtiy don't believe you, you may not be able to do any trades here.

Quickseller, you would have made a great prosecutor for the court system!  Grin man you leave no stone unturned lol

What was in your mind when you wrote this? Be frank! Wink
legendary
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sr. member
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I will show the proof after shorena has sent a test deposit and is satisfied. The proof is an unedited post of my BTC signature address for MinermanNC, before it was scrubbed by the thief. The entire profile is there, as requested and is the very same address you see now in this new account TerraMaster. I just feel its more proper to let the admins look, test and confirm.

I know you are all waiting to see that proof.. lol,

I didn't think it was up to the community to be the judge and the Jury. This what we have Admins for right?

Quickseller, you would have made a great prosecutor for the court system!  Grin man you leave no stone unturned lol

Great! Check your feedback! I doubt shorena has got any sort of proof you're claiming.
He has it.
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I will show the proof after shorena has sent a test deposit and is satisfied. The proof is an unedited post of my BTC signature address for MinermanNC, before it was scrubbed by the thief. The entire profile is there, as requested and is the very same address you see now in this new account TerraMaster. I just feel its more proper to let the admins look, test and confirm.

I know you are all waiting to see that proof.. lol,

I didn't think it was up to the community to be the judge and the Jury. This what we have Admins for right?

Quickseller, you would have made a great prosecutor for the court system!  Grin man you leave no stone unturned lol

Great! Check your feedback! I doubt shorena has got any sort of proof you're claiming.
sr. member
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Look I'll say it again,  theymos and shorena have the proof.

Is it necessary to post everything public in here, when the key players already have what they need? I don't expect them to drop everything thing they have on their plate to rush or put me ahead of others issues. ill patiently wait my turn, because in the end, I own(ed) that account, and hopefully it will be restored to its rightful owner as it should. Me.  Wink
If you want the community to believe you then you need to let the community judge the proof for themselves. You are being secretive about your 'proof' which in itself is very suspicious. Scammers have tried to hide portions of proof when they themselves were scammed in order to hide their identity
I will show the proof after shorena has sent a test deposit and is satisfied. The proof is an unedited post of my BTC signature address for MinermanNC, before it was scrubbed by the thief. The entire profile is there, as requested and is the very same address you see now in this new account TerraMaster. I just feel its more proper to let the admins look, test and confirm.

I know you are all waiting to see that proof.. lol,

I didn't think it was up to the community to be the judge and the Jury. This what we have Admins for right?

Quickseller, you would have made a great prosecutor for the court system!  Grin man you leave no stone unturned lol
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Look I'll say it again,  theymos and shorena have the proof.

Is it necessary to post everything public in here, when the key players already have what they need? I don't expect them to drop everything thing they have on their plate to rush or put me ahead of others issues. ill patiently wait my turn, because in the end, I own(ed) that account, and hopefully it will be restored to its rightful owner as it should. Me.  Wink
If you want the community to believe you then you need to let the community judge the proof for themselves. You are being secretive about your 'proof' which in itself is very suspicious. Scammers have tried to hide portions of proof when they themselves were scammed in order to hide their identity
sr. member
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Look I'll say it again,  theymos and shorena have the proof.

Is it necessary to post everything public in here, when the key players already have what they need? I don't expect them to drop everything thing they have on their plate to rush or put me ahead of others issues. ill patiently wait my turn, because in the end, I own(ed) that account, and hopefully it will be restored to its rightful owner as it should. Me.  Wink
legendary
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#Free market
It is *almost* impossible to prove an hack attack, the real owner should post some valid proofs and specially "tell the truth". I'm sure that if the story was real , theymos would have recovered/give back the account in less then one week to the real owner (like some old cases).
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I have presented enough here to show my PC was compromised as a result of that bad wallet.

No concrete evidence.

No anti virus will stop a forced install of software, it will only detect it after the fact.

May I know which antivirus are you using? Even the free ones detect if a malware* is in your PC without opening it unless you turn of that feature.

* Not all but there is a high chance that Trojan will be detected.

On that note, as I have said before, I hurriedly installed that wallet ONLY because I saw a post from Suprnova indicating he had a pool ready for launch. I ASSUMED lol, it was cool...

I am surprised to see that your anitivirus even didn't give any warning when you opened it. I do hope you ain't using an old-school antivirus.

AND no!!!! I did not sell my account for the last time, geez!

How can we believe you? I could fake whole thing happened to you(if it really happened), Quickseller has explained about the "illusion" you can create and hinestly, I think you did it

That address you mentioned was a more recent one I used. Until I found an unedited post with another older signature that I had been using in the past. It is in the hands of shorena and theymos.

Who knows you didn't sell your private key with the account?

I am willing to bet that "raindev" and "blackcatdev" are one in the same person. If you want to help, investigate them  Wink I thought you were here to help?
You have been nothing but a skeptic, and I suppose that's all fair play, but you simply are wrong.

THX

You understand what *skeptic* means, right? Who accepted *all* opinions/words you said? Huh
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lol, you downloaded the wallet of an altcoin without even scanning it? I won't do that even if I get drunk.

Posted on the thread by someone else


Hey shorena,

If you will, look at my TerraMaster profile BTC address. What seems familiar?  Wink  Compare to the "unedited" BTC info I PM'd you, and theymos as well. Send me an undisclosed amount of a BTC a satoshi or 2, and I will tell you exactly how much you sent and the time and date and TrxID #  Cool what do they say?... "the proof is in the pudding" of course I will send the satoshi's back right away.  Grin I should have thought of this 2 days ago, could have perhaps saved us all a bunch of grief..

THX!
Lets do it!

PM me  Smiley

I also assure that I will not change or edit any posts you made. I will aslo not try to sell this account or provide as collateral to a loan till this issue is done with.
That's cool, Thank you.
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I didn't even get a reply to that PM.

He was acting pretty desperate and I subconsciously thought it was genuine. It was there fo a few days too and everything was just like a normal auction.

Well, I learned a few things at least.


Yeah, it is quite possible that the hacker is an experienced thief and did not change the password then so that no red flags were raised. All the red flags will be raised only after the unfortunate buyer gets it. Zero risk for him.

Or the other view is OP just sold it to me and the password was obviously changed only once.


I am not in a good financial position right now. If I had say a few BTC, I would have definitely given it to you. Atm, all I have is around 0.2BTC.

I am willing to sell this to you for 0.6BTC.
I would not personally sell it to him for a loss. I think there is a very good chance that the account was not hacked. The problem that I see here is that I think there is a good chance the OP is trying to scam the buyer of his former account out of the .75 BTC that it was sold for. If you were to sell it back to him at that price then he loses nothing when his scam attempt failed. If he gets it back at a discount (or for free) then he has successfully scammed for the difference. If the OP wants his account back then he should have to pay some amount above what was paid for it in order to discourage such scam attempts.

Here is a timeline of events that pretty much everyone has agreed to (all times forum time):

March 04, 2015, 03:52:18 PM - MinermanNC posts that he is having difficulty with the malware wallet. This is when his account would have allegedly was compromised.
March 05, 2015, 02:56:48 AM - This is the last post the previous owner made with his account.
March 05, 2015, 11:30:29 AM - [RAIN]Dev lists the account for sale here. This is roughly 18 hours since the account was allegedly compromised.
March 08, 2015, 01:06:02 PM - The password for MinermanNC was first changed. This is the first opportunity that the OP would notice that his account was hacked if he is in fact telling the truth. This is roughly 4 days after it was allegedly compromised and roughly 3 days after the account was listed for sale. The account has not been used for posting in ~3 days
March 08, 2015, 02:02:18 PM - The new owner makes exactly one post from the MinermanNC account. This post however was in a thread that the previous owner had not posed in the past 14 pages of his post history. I would find it unlikely that the previous owner would have seen the post unless he was looking specifically at the MinermanNC account
March 08, 2015, 11:48:56 PM - The OP creates this thread. This is roughly 10 hours after the account was sold and roughly 4 days since he last posted from the account.

I personally find it hard to believe that someone would not use their account for 4 days and then happen to attempt to login roughly 10 hours after it was sold. I think it should have been obvious not to download that wallet/program blindly. I think that you saw that the program contained malware, made the post claiming to have problems with it and then stopped posting in order to give the illusion that your account was hacked. To me this is just a lazy attempt to scam someone out of .75 BTC.

Do I have a solution? No. I hope I never have to be in a situation like this.
Do I think theymos will be able to solve this? I dont know, this was his opinion on the last case that seems more similar the longer I think about it.

I think that marcotheminer should return the account now since it was probably hacked, but everyone should give yussuf89 negative feedback for being unable to stand behind his account's actions unless he pays 50-75% of the loan principle. (This is just my opinion -- I'm not going to try to enforce it.)
I think this case is very different from the yussuf89 case. It was much more clear that yussuf89 was hacked then it is clear that MinermanNC was hacked. There is no reason to give back the account just because someone claims it was hacked, there needs to be more concrete proof. Granted, it was not smart to not get a signed message on the new owner of the account's part, but that alone should not allow the OP to get the account back if he did in fact sell it.

I have yet to see proof that the OP even ever actually owned MinermanNC, although Shorena has said that he has seen reasonable proof. I am also curious to know why the OP is not willing to publicly share such proof. He has previously sent a PM giving 1DiR25SPo84sThzTATr27EZEQZLt6hv6tG as his address, and a google forum search comes back with results with all of MinermanNC's posts so I think it is fair to say that the above address was probably at one point in the signature of MinermanNC.


legendary
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lol, you downloaded the wallet of an altcoin without even scanning it? I won't do that even if I get drunk.

Posted on the thread by someone else


Hey shorena,

If you will, look at my TerraMaster profile BTC address. What seems familiar?  Wink  Compare to the "unedited" BTC info I PM'd you, and theymos as well. Send me an undisclosed amount of a BTC a satoshi or 2, and I will tell you exactly how much you sent and the time and date and TrxID #  Cool what do they say?... "the proof is in the pudding" of course I will send the satoshi's back right away.  Grin I should have thought of this 2 days ago, could have perhaps saved us all a bunch of grief..

THX!
Lets do it!

PM me  Smiley

I also assure that I will not change or edit any posts you made. I will aslo not try to sell this account or provide as collateral to a loan till this issue is done with.
legendary
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The hacker most apparently got all your passwords by a keylogger. You don't have any decent anti-virus or security software installed on your PC? Nxt time, please don't download anything you get from here.

Till date, I have never downloaded anything to my PC from here.


Please forward the proof you sent to this account too. I would also like to check it.
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