Topic: Bitcoin Talk has made me a bit sad today. (Read 2037 times)
Hello this is my first time to come at here and read this thread. Usually i at local forum and in here maybe i can learn anything that i don't understand. I think mostly people here come too get some money. They do not care about rules ,now we are banned 1 account, bu they will make 2 even 10 accounts. Maybe what we must have to do make rules that who want to taking part in bounty must have some several merits not only in signature campaign. And who want make thread must be self moderated maybe or who want to make thread make by have to minimum ranks. But hope this forum can be better
I've just gone through the JetAid thread on the beginners board, and I've awarded a few merits. Nowis the time to ask those questions about Bitcoin Talk, and let the experienced members answer them.
You had better get in quickly, because I'm going to scrap another van that I've been using as a shed, and the last one took me away for 2 days.
You had better get in quickly, because I'm going to scrap another van that I've been using as a shed, and the last one took me away for 2 days.
Heads up and keep up the good work JetCash i voted you on a poll thread where asking one of the entertaining Bitcointalk user here in this forum. I know that you have been doing good and working hard to correct those members who are breaking rules through reading your comments on those thread. Literally i was inspired and i will check always here for rules and regulation updates.
I don't have the time to hunt for them. Men invented Unicorns to round up the wild horses, but I don't want to make them slaves. Thankfully we have a few benign Unicorns here in Bitcoin Talk.
I think that luring horses from one stable to another with the promise of carrots isn't the way to go. Rewarding people with merit is a great idea but that's why we have bitcointalk, so that all this activity can take place here.
I don't have the time to hunt for them. Men invented Unicorns to round up the wild horses, but I don't want to make them slaves. Thankfully we have a few benign Unicorns here in Bitcoin Talk.
In life, there are times when we are above with the success that we achieve and there are times when we are under when failure to overshadow us. These two things come in turns throughout life.You try to try to take lessons from the failure of business and determined to progress better.
so with your hard work, closer to success because you can learn to be better than before.
I know you really wanted to help some people who do posting with good contents. But today, let's accept the fact that sometimes posting with contents (as if they really created that) are very annoying because all of it are just from the internet, they're just using proper citation but the idea that comes from their mind, nothing.
We all know that today there are many people at the forum who don`t differ in originality of thought and write horrible posts for the sole purpose: to fulfill the quota in a bounty campaign to get tokens. But if we take it as a fact and do nothing to fix it, the situation will only get worse. I think that Jet Cash comes very nobly, creating threads in which everyone for a worthy post can receive a merit and thereby motivating participants to write more thoughtful and qualified posts. He doesn`t have to do this, but he wants to improve the situation and raise the level of the forum as a whole. And I'm very glad that Jet Cash didn`t accept the fact that the forum is filled with spammers, but chose the way to combat it, motivating members and giving them the opportunity to be appreciated.
You're one of the person who give me merits from the start and I know you really wanted to help some people who do posting with good contents. But today, let's accept the fact that sometimes posting with contents (as if they really created that) are very annoying because all of it are just from the internet, they're just using proper citation but the idea that comes from their mind, nothing.
Race horses will definitely come to you if you whistle to them, it doesn't matter if it's rare or not, the important thing is they're willing to be with you until the end and it's really a good sign of reaching a success.
There is an old adage about horses, water and drinking. I want to encourage the foals who will become race horses, and not the donkeys who dig in their hooves and demand free carrots. 
Yes but you don't expect horses to come to you, you'll need to find them, to make assumption which horses can become race horses, which horses are rare (i.e. have some unique expertise, and not necessarily in blockchain, it might be knowledge of rare language), etc. Race horses will definitely come to you if you whistle to them, it doesn't matter if it's rare or not, the important thing is they're willing to be with you until the end and it's really a good sign of reaching a success.
I don't have the time to hunt for them. Men invented Unicorns to round up the wild horses, but I don't want to make them slaves. Thankfully we have a few benign Unicorns here in Bitcoin Talk.
There is an old adage about horses, water and drinking. I want to encourage the foals who will become race horses, and not the donkeys who dig in their hooves and demand free carrots.
Yes but you don't expect horses to come to you, you'll need to find them, to make assumption which horses can become race horses, which horses are rare (i.e. have some unique expertise, and not necessarily in blockchain, it might be knowledge of rare language), etc.
And what do you think about idea - to read, read, scroll the forum and find members whom you like and encourage them personally?
The forum is so big so even people who want to be encouraged might just didn't know about any of your incentive.
There is an old adage about horses, water and drinking. I want to encourage the foals who will become race horses, and not the donkeys who dig in their hooves and demand free carrots.
It is very rare now a days to find a user who joined the forum for only learning purposes and he doesn't have any financial plans in his mind to be discovered on the forum.
These are the members we should be encouraging. And what do you think about idea - to read, read, scroll the forum and find members whom you like and encourage them personally?
The forum is so big so even people who want to be encouraged might just didn't know about any of your incentive.
It is very rare now a days to find a user who joined the forum for only learning purposes and he doesn't have any financial plans in his mind to be discovered on the forum.
These are the members we should be encouraging. The Jet Cash name issue has made me rethink quite a few things, and there are some possibilities. I installed a ticket system on Talk Merit for new and junior members, but only one person has ever used that. I propose to delete that ticket system, and replace it with a more comprehensive system using Hesk. This includes the ability to build a knowledge base. and I can use this to route enquirers to relevant Bitcoin Talk threads. One difficulty that newer members seem to have is navigating the forum to find information. This task is fairly simple for experienced members, but must be hard for newbies when faced with a sea of spam posts.
I'll post a link in my signature when the system is usable.
You cannot teach someone unless they want to learn themselves, and that is what they don't want. The only reason for them to come on the forum is to reach Jr. member and start participating in bounties in order to earn a few bucks every week/month/year. It is very rare now a days to find a user who joined the forum for only learning purposes and he doesn't have any financial plans in his mind to be discovered on the forum. It is very difficult, or may I say impossible, to teach such people to behave themselves and do what is right for the whole community. If you start trying to do that, disappointment would probably be a thing that you would encounter a lot in your way.
I'm wondering if any new members started off lurking like I did. I was reading stuff on bitcointalk for months before I actually created an account,
You sure had a different orientation from what is obtainable today. In my case, I got to know much about this forum when I joined a campaign managed by Sylon. He had a "stringent" requirement that your posts will only count is some boards. So to meet up with that requirement, I started discovering other threads like meta, economics, beginners, politics, etc. I then took the time to read through the beginners' thread. It was there my whole understanding of this beautiful platform changed. If there is a way new members will be confined to post based on questions and answers from the beginners' board, it will go a long way toward shaping the quality of new members. I hope this is what Jet Cash want to establish. It will be a nice project.
We need a Beginners and Help board for the alt coin section. The current bitcoin one is being swamped by the same old crap being asked about ALT coin related subjects. We also need to get the Newbie/Welcome message initiated which I suggested
In Reddit /Bitcoin there is an automatic script that automatically deletes your post if it mentions any altcoin.
I believe we could have something similar here in all bitcoin boards (beginners, technical support and discussion, mining etc). If it mentions eth, ethereum, token, eyc, this post is automatically deleted and the user receives a pm telling h that he post mentioned an altcoin and it should be posted in the altcoin session.
This would help clean our boards a little be with zero effort from moderator or ADM
Regarding your sites I would advise you to keep them, domains are cheap and hosting is free (considering that you probably host sites on unlimited hosting.
I've got over 500 .coms, and a few .nets. So I need to sell some of them, especially the .nets. ( does anybody want FU2.net for example?).
The wise accountant idea is really to help me to invest in some selected alts, and I haven't done much research yet. It's a bit difficult to chat about them on the boards here, and any public recommendation is likely to result in a price increase, and this will reduce profitability. Hence my idea of having private discussions. I don't want to create a group investment plan either, doing that would mean that I have to share the profits.
It is far better in my opinion to have individual investments made on group discussions. That way you can control the speculation to suit your own circumstances.
Regarding your sites I would advise you to keep them, domains are cheap and hosting is free (considering that you probably host sites on unlimited hosting. And if you don't have unlimited hosting, I'm sure some of your friends have. Or even I can host your sites for free)
Regarding "Economic survival" - it's really hard to establish new forums these days without lots of active communities.
Few months ago I was observing the rise of one blockchain forums, but when the owner ran out of money for paying people to communicate there - the activity fell almost to 0...
Also many years ago I developed and managed literature forum (social networks were not so popular those days so it was easier) and i remember how hard was it.
but I would advise you to keep domains, may be later you will create something else there
Regarding "Economic survival" - it's really hard to establish new forums these days without lots of active communities.
Few months ago I was observing the rise of one blockchain forums, but when the owner ran out of money for paying people to communicate there - the activity fell almost to 0...
Also many years ago I developed and managed literature forum (social networks were not so popular those days so it was easier) and i remember how hard was it.
but I would advise you to keep domains, may be later you will create something else there
I am also planning to create a social media group or a telegram group only for active and quality members in our local to help me spread knowledge about cryptocurrency and to give reminders for newbie/ noobs who are fan of shitposting.
Count me in
Let's start that, but I doubt rickbig41 will allow us to have that Well, apparently i can not suggest anything to your project but i just want to tell you guys about my story. I made a Telegram group for members in my local board to learn and talk in English in April I guess. Got around 50 members and around first week it is so active, but the activity is decreased over time. Then at some point there were never any talks on the group. After several month, today i decided to delete the group because it doesnt active anymore and no one seems want to learn and talk in English.
Thats the reality of some members of this forum. I am sad and angry at the same time.
Yeah I feel the same way in our local, and I am also planning to create a social media group or a telegram group only for active and quality members in our local to help me spread knowledge about cruyptocurrency and to give reminders for newbie/ noobs who are fan of shitposting. I also wanted to help for the betterment of this forum starting in our local and giving them encouragement to post with some quality. But then, upon reading your reply I decided not to create as it will just be a dead group soon. Thats the reality of some members of this forum. I am sad and angry at the same time.
As a newbie I appreciate every topic delivered on this bitcoin talk. I am still trying to convey the best. Thank you for your topic, because it has motivated me.
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