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sr. member
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May 14, 2014, 04:46:48 PM
Perhaps because there is nothing to indicate that it is a serious business? Even if you ignore the ridiculously high profits they are claiming, the whole site is just silly. For instance they are not showing any of the information any proper business in the areas they claim to be dealing in, would have.

0.5-0.8% each day from arbitrage is ridiculous? Looks pretty low to me.

I can understand that most people don't know what to look for when it comes to arbitrage. However, in the mining part pretty much everyone should know enough to ask for what kind of hardware they are using, and the amount of Ghash the shares represent. BTs problem is that if their customers had those numbers it would be easy to calculate that they are lying about either the price of the Ghash, or the profits.

AFAIK they aren't selling you GHS like Cex.io does. they are selling you a contract for a year.
The information you are looking for is here: https://bitcoin-trader.biz/mining.php --> ~10 TH for 1700 shares so each 100$ share rents ~5,88235 GHs for a year.

As of today there is no longer reason to buy a mining share: their cost is a non refundable 100$ for 365 days with a decreasing daily return of 0.26%. 365*0.26 = 94.9$ for a cost of 100$.

legendary
Activity: 1284
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May 14, 2014, 04:21:39 PM
Do you have any reason at all to call BT a Ponzi instead of a serious business?

Perhaps because there is nothing to indicate that it is a serious business? Even if you ignore the ridiculously high profits they are claiming, the whole site is just silly. For instance they are not showing any of the information any proper business in the areas they claim to be dealing in, would have.

I can understand that most people don't know what to look for when it comes to arbitrage. However, in the mining part pretty much everyone should know enough to ask for what kind of hardware they are using, and the amount of Ghash the shares represent. BTs problem is that if their customers had those numbers it would be easy to calculate that they are lying about either the price of the Ghash, or the profits.
sr. member
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May 14, 2014, 03:45:33 PM
What? No idea what you just said. Doesn't really matter to me, bitcoin-trader is a ponzi and that is that. Also nothing new with people being stupid and falling for stuff like this. I don't need anyone's money here

Do you have any reason at all to call BT a Ponzi instead of a serious business?
full member
Activity: 182
Merit: 100
May 14, 2014, 03:10:10 PM
sorry for my bad english

have the information not from here  Tongue

It was a support ticket reply inquiring about me? Guess I ruffled a few feathers over at bitcoin-trader scam headquarters.

The question is why are you putting so much energy and time here? you want to get paid? I mean seriously you cant earn money with that unless you are getting some because they join your ponzi. thats clear and obvious. so the more you post here....

What? No idea what you just said. Doesn't really matter to me, bitcoin-trader is a ponzi and that is that. Also nothing new with people being stupid and falling for stuff like this. I don't need anyone's money here
legendary
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May 14, 2014, 10:31:00 AM
sorry for my bad english

have the information not from here  Tongue

It was a support ticket reply inquiring about me? Guess I ruffled a few feathers over at bitcoin-trader scam headquarters.

The question is why are you putting so much energy and time here? you want to get paid? I mean seriously you cant earn money with that unless you are getting some because they join your ponzi. thats clear and obvious. so the more you post here....
hero member
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May 12, 2014, 07:26:04 PM
How do you know all this, did Yonce tell you?
No need, it's obvious to anyone with a clue.

Why would listen to yonce anyway?   He is just slamming HYIPs he isn't in to get more people signed up into the one he is invested in.   If he isn't in it, he calls it bad and if he is in a HYIP, he considers it good.   

Evidence: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6700169

Anyway, bitcoin-trader.biz has outlasted a lot of HYIPs now. 
legendary
Activity: 1284
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May 12, 2014, 12:09:00 PM
How do you know all this, did Yonce tell you?
No need, it's obvious to anyone with a clue.
sr. member
Activity: 276
Merit: 250
May 12, 2014, 12:04:59 PM
Arbitrage isn't ponzi lol.
I put in $500 just to test it out and have averaged 1% a day(days they traded) and have been paid promptly when I requested it.
Wow, you sure know how to spot ponzies... Of course they claim to have a legitimate business modell, and of course they are paying at the moment. It would be a pretty crappy ponzi if they admitted to be running a ponzi and only paid some of the withdrawals from the start.

How do you know all this, did Yonce tell you?
legendary
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May 12, 2014, 11:40:07 AM
Arbitrage isn't ponzi lol.
I put in $500 just to test it out and have averaged 1% a day(days they traded) and have been paid promptly when I requested it.
Wow, you sure know how to spot ponzies... Of course they claim to have a legitimate business modell, and of course they are paying at the moment. It would be a pretty crappy ponzi if they admitted to be running a ponzi and only paid some of the withdrawals from the start.
hero member
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May 12, 2014, 11:27:12 AM
Arbitrage isn't ponzi lol. I arb trade quite often. I put in $500 just to test it out and have averaged 1% a day(days they traded) and have been paid promptly when I requested it. I've taken out ~130usd since joining in late March. I've had no dealing with the staff, as the experience has been trouble free.
legendary
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May 12, 2014, 10:22:14 AM
Which is not permitted by the TOS and could result in both accounts to be suspended without refund - what I agree is the right way to do.
Who cares what the TOS says in a ponzi? That's what will happen to everyone eventually.
sr. member
Activity: 276
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May 12, 2014, 08:18:27 AM
Or just cut out the middle man. Create a user, use its referral to create another, deposit, and then withdraw everything. Instant profit until the ponzi folds.

Which is not permitted by the TOS and could result in both accounts to be suspended without refund - what I agree is the right way to do.
legendary
Activity: 1284
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May 12, 2014, 04:57:46 AM
Or just cut out the middle man. Create a user, use its referral to create another, deposit, and then withdraw everything. Instant profit until the ponzi folds.
legendary
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May 11, 2014, 11:38:21 PM
Don't ask for referrals they will come on there own.
legendary
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May 11, 2014, 04:01:29 PM
If you order your shares over my referrer I offer you 2,5% of your investment back instantly.

First post here! I´ll give it a try, should I pm U with the amount I placed at bitcoin-trader.biz?

I have a better offer! I'll give you whole 5% commission back from your first deposit.


PM for details  Wink

When its nothing forbidden I give the commission to you back as I dont see why I should keep it.
newbie
Activity: 25
Merit: 0
May 11, 2014, 04:06:47 AM
If you order your shares over my referrer I offer you 2,5% of your investment back instantly.

First post here! I´ll give it a try, should I pm U with the amount I placed at bitcoin-trader.biz?

I have a better offer! I'll give you whole 5% commission back from your first deposit.


PM for details  Wink
legendary
Activity: 1736
Merit: 1001
May 10, 2014, 06:58:31 PM
Ok!


This is exciting, started mining in february 2014, a bit too late... but the upside is that I got a warm basement, great for drying laundry!

Very fun hobby. But can get very $
newbie
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May 10, 2014, 01:59:22 PM
Ok!


This is exciting, started mining in february 2014, a bit too late... but the upside is that I got a warm basement, great for drying laundry!
legendary
Activity: 1736
Merit: 1001
May 10, 2014, 01:44:26 PM
If you order your shares over my referrer I offer you 2,5% of your investment back instantly.

First post here! I´ll give it a try, should I pm U with the amount I placed at bitcoin-trader.biz?

He will see you in his downline with how much you invested.
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