Topic: Bitcoin Unit Colour Chart - page 3. (Read 13229 times)

I think these days people call it YOO Torrent, not it's real name, Micro Torrent, because of this mixup.

I guess you can't put µ in domain names either.

sorry if someone told you his already.

USE THE DAMN MU SIGN μμμμμμμμμμμμ

NOT uTORRENT μTORRENT notice the "stick" hanging off the u. μ≠u

To type this magic letter, hold alt and press 0181 on your keypad, if you do not have a keypad or use a mac, too bad.

sorry, I do sincerely apologize, this just is my pet peeve.

Perhaps think of it as a metallic silvery blue if that helps?

mm.. I know what you mean..  but I strongly suspect bitcents will be used by some people even if they're not 'official'.. and they'll probably want a silver logo.
It just seems to me that 'cents' in various currencies are silver. Making the mBTC silver might make it more likely that newcomers will confuse them as being 100th of a bitcoin.

I'll await further feedback.

Heh, sorry to make it even more confusing, but I think you should stick with silver as the colour that comes after gold (i.e. use silver for mBTC)

Yeah..  for some reasonably loose definition of 'standardize' that still gives artists reasonable freedom.
I'd say it's more of a 'guideline' and I'd only push for it as a standard in so far as saying 'please don't use green for millicoins if 99% of the planet is using green for microcoins'
Agreed - the colouring of the number itself is secondary.

I've followed a few discussions around this myself..  and while I've disagreed that bitcents should disappear, my argument has mainly been that I expect the general public will expect them to exist, and will use the concept anyway.

However..  in the interests of simplicity, why not give them a chance to die out and see what happens?
so.. If you check back in my edited original post, I've ditched the bitcents and produced a simplified chart.

Thanks to everyone for the feedback. 
Perhaps this whole thread has been just yet more noise on the units topic and will be ignored anyway.. but one day something like this will stick and gain wider traction I hope.

Sort of.. It's not intended that a single number should be displayed multicoloured.. that's a bit complex and doesn't help so much I think.
It was more so that if someone is entering data - they have visual confirmation of what unit they are working in, and also an indication of the final scale of the transaction.  
It might also be of use in price lists where a merchant might prefer to specify all prices in something such as mBTC, but provide some display of equivalent BTC at the checkout point.


e.g if someone always likes entering in using the usual whole BTC
 

Data Entry		Scale Confirmation Panel
0.069 BTC		6.9 cBTC
0.001592 BTC		1.592 mBTC
0.0004 BTC		400 uBTC
0.00000032 BTC		32 satoshi

If the BTC has deflated somewhat and someone generally uses millis for day to day transactions,
they might set their standard data entry to be mBTC
 

Data Entry		Scale Confirmation Panel
3141 mBTC		3.141 BTC
220 mBTC		22 cBTC
0.1 mBTC		100 uBTC

Over time, people would get familiar with the colours and icons and it'd help give them a feel for the size of the transaction they're dealing with.

Look.. a lot if not most people currently here on the forums probably don't need this sort of assistance.
I think however that for bitcoin to become more generally used - graphical hints will help significantly, and if some common scheme isn't settled on, it'll just be confusing.  Now perhaps I shouldn't bother pushing the issue, as whichever piece of software becomes most popular may effectively decide the standards.
I'm just throwing this out for discussion as one way of handling this sort of thing.

Quiet! This is progress at work. 

So, for example $1 will buy you 69 mBTC or 69 mBTC?

In any case, I definitely agree that 0.101 should be clearly distinguishable from 0101.  (Is 01 invalid?)  I think I would enjoy this color scheme.

Color coding is probably a disaster waiting to happen...


How long before someone recode a client to display the wrong color on purpose to con people out of their cash.

Correct. I commented before that this example was poor. My bad.

What I was thinking of there was a confirmation phase - where a UI might indicate that the scale of that number was mBTC by also displaying the equivalent 1.59265 mBTC blue as a popup or something.

The Hindu-Arabic numeral system is dead! Long live Obfuscation!

You want to replace 1500 years of mathematical expressive excellence with what?

Yes. This is a step in the right direction.

Another possibility:

1.1 - - 1.1
0.001  - - b.1
0.000001 - - b.b.1
0.000000001 - - b.b.b.1
1.00001 = 1.b.10
0.100099 = b.100.99
0.230001 = b.23.b.1 b.230.1
0.001100999 = b.1.1.999 b.1.100.999
0.999000000099 = b.999.b.b.99
0.464928532585 = b.464.928.532.585

I hope I didnt leave any mistakes there! Its tricky to convert, but much easier to read. It is easier to think in this format than do a conversion. Gotta put a b function on all calculators & cash registers, or we learn to convert this in our heads when doing calculations. Wow this is a tough problem. A lot of possibilities for mistakes.

I think those prefixes should be harpo, zeppo and groucho.

I clarified my post. I didn't mean 'divided by'.

100 cents = 97 cents / 0.97 dollars

( thanks for correcting my yocto )

http://verizonmath.blogspot.com/2006/12/verizon-doesnt-know-dollars-from-cents.html

Very funny.

One tiny problem I foresee though is that some people seriously don't know the difference between:

$0.97
0.97 cents
97 cents

I've often seen people write 0.97 cents when they actually mean 97 cents (0.97 dollars).

I like this idea.  It allows designers the means to give users two signals when they're entering bitcoin amounts.  If it's accepted widely, it reduces the chances of data entry errors.

You know, there is a guy starting up a Bitcoin standards organization.  You should get in contact with him (can't remember the name but search the forums and you'll find him).