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Topic: Bitcoin user adoption is horrible - here is why: (Read 6361 times)

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February 17, 2016, 08:22:14 AM
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Must be some apps that are only used in America...
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This is a great example of excess complexion and it will encourage no one even solid bitcoin fans to use it, If they use a single medium like coinbase it will be more possible for users and for the business too "less fees".
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There must be a pretty high margin on coffee, certainly McDonalds keep giving me free cups. Imagine the marketing advantage for Starbucks or McD if they started accepting Bitcoins directly in payment. McDonalds kiosks are now fitted with scanners. They say this is for voucher payments, but it would be easy to use them to read Bitcoin addresses.

They might even save some credit card fees by accepting bitcoin. Customers pay the transaction fees.
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There must be a pretty high margin on coffee, certainly McDonalds keep giving me free cups. Imagine the marketing advantage for Starbucks or McD if they started accepting Bitcoins directly in payment. McDonalds kiosks are now fitted with scanners. They say this is for voucher payments, but it would be easy to use them to read Bitcoin addresses.
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"Paul Puey, CEO of Airbitz, said in a blog post: "We are excited to announce that we've integrated Fold into our app! Now, you can buy gift cards for Starbucks and Target within the app in the same tab where you can buy and sell bitcoin through Glidera."

So, Fold is now integrated into Airbitz.  Use Glidera, to buy bitcoin to buy a gift card to use via Fold through your AirBitz wallet - to get a coffee! 

Get it?!  Neither do I.  The more ridiculous steps between being thirsty and getting a coffee - the less likely users will adopt the system.  This is just freaking horrible.  I am convinced that major players like AirBitz inability to see this will ultimately cause alienation of end users.  Even a hard core bitcoin nerd couldn't enjoy this transaction.  Real people would laugh their head off if you told them they should buy a coffee this way.  More steps and more middlemen?  = sure death. 

 you > Glidera > Fold > Airbitz > Starbucks 

forgetaboutit

yes i am also considering about this,how could we make peole more interest to bitcoin if they should use to much way just to buy coffee,could someone here give me the middle resolve,i mean give the best solution.
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Yeah that is a bit ridculous. If you want to see why bitcoin isn't being adopted faster invest a small amount of bitcoins on btcjam. The amount of people new to bitcoin that almost default on loans because of the hurdles they have to go through still to get a bitcoin turns them off of bitcoin. It's sad because these are people (I'd say about 5%) who are looking for an alternative to funding projects that will probably never use bitcoin again in the near future.

Then again these could also be people just making an excuse as they don't want to pay the loans back, but most of them seem legitimate as they ask for help and reply with there frustrations, and don't seem to be making excuses. I think the hurdle is still too high for mass adoption of bitcoin.
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This is problem that we must first overcome!
Scams , Hackings , all kind of other manipulations and malversations..
What community can do about this:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/altcoin-exchange-list-list-of-altcoin-and-bitcoin-cryptocurrency-exchanges-777154 ?
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Yes complexion never encourages people to try a new thing and this is just too much, it would be awesome if websites and services started accepting BTC directly or at least through a single middleman (coinbase etc...) but 3 middlemen is pushing it. Companies don't want to link themselves with BTC directly though.
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well who say we cant use both methods, u can choose which method u like best. i can see bitcoin like a credit card/debit card where i no need to bring cash out and i need not have to keep the changes which i dont really like to have.

There is bitcoin credit/debit card now. So it is quite convenient to use bitcoin. It is similar to conventional credit cards.

Yup credit/debit card should be the way but it should use FIAT instead of btc for faster transactions. You can top and cash out of it in btc but use it as FIAT. The conversion will take place upon topping and withdrawing to/from the card.
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"Paul Puey, CEO of Airbitz, said in a blog post: "We are excited to announce that we've integrated Fold into our app! Now, you can buy gift cards for Starbucks and Target within the app in the same tab where you can buy and sell bitcoin through Glidera."

So, Fold is now integrated into Airbitz.  Use Glidera, to buy bitcoin to buy a gift card to use via Fold through your AirBitz wallet - to get a coffee! 

Get it?!  Neither do I.  The more ridiculous steps between being thirsty and getting a coffee - the less likely users will adopt the system.  This is just freaking horrible.  I am convinced that major players like AirBitz inability to see this will ultimately cause alienation of end users.  Even a hard core bitcoin nerd couldn't enjoy this transaction.  Real people would laugh their head off if you told them they should buy a coffee this way.  More steps and more middlemen?  = sure death. 

 you > Glidera > Fold > Airbitz > Starbucks 

forgetaboutit

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yes i think there is way too many step in buying 1 thing, but maybe this is one of the step to push people to use and acknowledge the existence of bitcoin, so eventhough the step is still complicated, we should support the system
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well who say we cant use both methods, u can choose which method u like best. i can see bitcoin like a credit card/debit card where i no need to bring cash out and i need not have to keep the changes which i dont really like to have.

There is bitcoin credit/debit card now. So it is quite convenient to use bitcoin. It is similar to conventional credit cards.
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well who say we cant use both methods, u can choose which method u like best. i can see bitcoin like a credit card/debit card where i no need to bring cash out and i need not have to keep the changes which i dont really like to have.
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Forcing yourself to use bitcoin when its clearly not practical, is pointless. Just like with everything, use a right tool for a given job.

Bitcoin is good in many things, but not suited for every single use case posbile. For example, its good for transferring money overseas , but not so good for buying a cup of coffee in your local coffee shop. Whats wrong with paying cash for coffee? Paying with cash also works without internet, which you cant say about bitcoin or credit cards.

Cash will be always useful when a person doesn't want to use an internet connection for payments and hence bitcoins come handy only for online transactions. Can we use cash when we pay any online bills/buy a product from an online portal unless we choose COD (which is not always available)? No right. Bitcoins have their own advantages like cash where one is physical and one is virtual.
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Id be happy being at the point where its used as a store of value and is stable. being a currency is obviously better because it can be used mostly everywhere but failing that i see no reason why it couldnt be used solely as a store of value even if that wasnt its intended use.
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Forcing yourself to use bitcoin when its clearly not practical, is pointless. Just like with everything, use a right tool for a given job.

Bitcoin is good in many things, but not suited for every single use case posbile. For example, its good for transferring money overseas , but not so good for buying a cup of coffee in your local coffee shop. Whats wrong with paying cash for coffee? Paying with cash also works without internet, which you cant say about bitcoin or credit cards.
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I only read the first few post, andit seemed that most people were assuming this was a way to get a cup of coffee. I assumed it was a way to obtain a gift card to give to a friend. Presumably he takes the card to Starbucks, and they give him (or her) a coffee - a simple standard process. If Starbucks is aware that this method is popular, then maybe they will start sellling gift cards for Bitcoin.
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I too agree that these are too many steps between being thirsty and having a coffee. But if we don't go through this, we probably won't have sellers/retailers accepting Bitcoin soon... So this is a necessary evil, I think.
Go ask BitPay or GoCoin.  User adoption of bitcoin is near zero.  People don't actually use it.  The process needs to be simplified.  This is not a step in the right direction.  BitPay is also horrible.  Too many steps.

What should happen is that bitcoin is totally eliminated from from the process, at least in the consumer's eyes. IMO bitcoin doesn't need to get mainstream. It needs to be the one running in the background, eliminating the extra costs, simplifying the process. What happens right now is the reverse. Until we can find a way to put the tech in use this way adoption would still be low.

As per my view first the whole countrys of this world should accept the bitcoin technology and then only the users and retailers will start using it, because they will also not fear of the legal issues and taxation problems, because in some country still bitcoin is considered as illegal, so then how will the retailers will start to take bitcoin as their payment option in their business.
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I too agree that these are too many steps between being thirsty and having a coffee. But if we don't go through this, we probably won't have sellers/retailers accepting Bitcoin soon... So this is a necessary evil, I think.
Go ask BitPay or GoCoin.  User adoption of bitcoin is near zero.  People don't actually use it.  The process needs to be simplified.  This is not a step in the right direction.  BitPay is also horrible.  Too many steps.

What should happen is that bitcoin is totally eliminated from from the process, at least in the consumer's eyes. IMO bitcoin doesn't need to get mainstream. It needs to be the one running in the background, eliminating the extra costs, simplifying the process. What happens right now is the reverse. Until we can find a way to put the tech in use this way adoption would still be low.
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I don't really feel Bitcoin and its adopters have ever been too horrible. Bitcoin will have its flaws, just like anything else.
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