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May 06, 2018, 09:07:25 PM
The Bitcoin block only holds 2 MB. The block of Bitcoin Cash contains 8 MB of information, which makes it more suitable and popular among the cryptocurrency. Therefore the Bitcoin Cash  is better


Exactly how did you conclude that? Just because of block size?
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May 05, 2018, 08:04:21 PM
It was never going to come close to threatening BTC, it was a short term
solution to bitcoins high fees and slow transaction times. Its giing to fade
after segwit and lightning get fully deployed.

Agreed, it seems BCH will fail in the long term
Bitcoincash is the forked of Bitcoin. I believe that Bitcoin is still the best compare to bitcoincash. There are many people telling that Bitcoincash is much better compare to Bitcoin. I don't believe on that, I still go for Bitcoin for long term position, I really agree on that. Bitcoin is more powerful compare to Bitcoincash.
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May 05, 2018, 12:31:46 PM
It was never going to come close to threatening BTC, it was a short term
solution to bitcoins high fees and slow transaction times. Its giing to fade
after segwit and lightning get fully deployed.

Agreed, it seems BCH will fail in the long term
I think so. Previously, I was very concerned about BCH, but when I found out, I did not see the function of BCH. So I decided not to invest in BCH. That's not a safe coin. That's my opinion
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May 05, 2018, 12:30:26 PM
i personally don't like to use BCH because it is a hardfork coin of bitcoin, it is born to deal with problems that BTC is facing that's high fee and very slow in every transactions, despite BCH is born after BTC but most of investors still choose ETH instead because they are more popular than any altcoins, Of course BCH is still playing an important role in BTC rising, that's a tool to be used to pump and dump BTC in trading.
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May 05, 2018, 12:27:35 PM
I do not think that BCH has many outstanding applications like BTC. Mostly, BCH is created not for any purpose. I will never give up my money to invest in the BCH
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May 05, 2018, 12:25:20 PM
I think that BTC will always remain the leader. Bitcoin Cash is not a competitor to bitcoin, because this coin has not achieved a strong respect among people.
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May 05, 2018, 12:21:39 PM
BCH currently exceeds BTC, but it does not mean that BTC will never exceed BTC. If BTC is in crisis, BCH will probably surpass it.

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May 05, 2018, 12:14:35 PM
The problem is that entire promotion of BCH is to fight Bitcoin. Those who vocally support BCH pretend it is the real Bitcoin and the real Bitcoin is some fake thing. In short, they are trying to con people into switching from Bitcoin to their altcoin. Until they stop this there will always be fighting (or until the LN makes BCH's attempts to hurt Bitcoin entirely irrelevant). If BCH people stopped being scammers and just represented their coin as on of the hundreds of alternatives to Bitcoin, instead of trying to trick people into thinking its the real Bitcoin then there would be no fighting. It's entirely on these BCH scammers. But these people also know BCH's entire value proposition revolves around stealing Bitcoin's name, otherwise there is no reason to invest in BCH over any of hundreds of other coins, so they will not stop lying, whining, scamming people, and attacking bitcoin because that is all they've got going for them.

True. The idea that Bitcoin Cash was created for reasons other than to fight Bitcoin and cause disruption are hard to believe. Ver threw his toys out of his pram and spat out his dummy when he realised he could not take control of bitcoin or plots its path in to the future no matter how many Bitcoins he and Zhuoer held.

What an excellent post from thecodebear



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May 04, 2018, 05:28:52 PM
The problem is that entire promotion of BCH is to fight Bitcoin. Those who vocally support BCH pretend it is the real Bitcoin and the real Bitcoin is some fake thing. In short, they are trying to con people into switching from Bitcoin to their altcoin. Until they stop this there will always be fighting (or until the LN makes BCH's attempts to hurt Bitcoin entirely irrelevant). If BCH people stopped being scammers and just represented their coin as on of the hundreds of alternatives to Bitcoin, instead of trying to trick people into thinking its the real Bitcoin then there would be no fighting. It's entirely on these BCH scammers. But these people also know BCH's entire value proposition revolves around stealing Bitcoin's name, otherwise there is no reason to invest in BCH over any of hundreds of other coins, so they will not stop lying, whining, scamming people, and attacking bitcoin because that is all they've got going for them.

True. The idea that Bitcoin Cash was created for reasons other than to fight Bitcoin and cause disruption are hard to believe. Ver threw his toys out of his pram and spat out his dummy when he realised he could not take control of bitcoin or plots its path in to the future no matter how many Bitcoins he and Zhuoer held.

What an excellent post from thecodebear
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May 04, 2018, 03:13:59 PM
the split that led to the appearance of Bitcoin Cash turned out to be productive, while its existence does not threaten bitcoin and does not require support from its supporters. Now the landscape presents both views: one network offers a small block size, and the other one is large. I hope that in the future we will not see any fighting, as both sides should understand that the opponent will not go anywhere. Exactly the same was with Ethereum and Ethereum classic


The problem is that entire promotion of BCH is to fight Bitcoin. Those who vocally support BCH pretend it is the real Bitcoin and the real Bitcoin is some fake thing. In short, they are trying to con people into switching from Bitcoin to their altcoin. Until they stop this there will always be fighting (or until the LN makes BCH's attempts to hurt Bitcoin entirely irrelevant). If BCH people stopped being scammers and just represented their coin as on of the hundreds of alternatives to Bitcoin, instead of trying to trick people into thinking its the real Bitcoin then there would be no fighting. It's entirely on these BCH scammers. But these people also know BCH's entire value proposition revolves around stealing Bitcoin's name, otherwise there is no reason to invest in BCH over any of hundreds of other coins, so they will not stop lying, whining, scamming people, and attacking bitcoin because that is all they've got going for them.
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May 04, 2018, 02:40:21 PM
the split that led to the appearance of Bitcoin Cash turned out to be productive, while its existence does not threaten bitcoin and does not require support from its supporters. Now the landscape presents both views: one network offers a small block size, and the other one is large. I hope that in the future we will not see any fighting, as both sides should understand that the opponent will not go anywhere. Exactly the same was with Ethereum and Ethereum classic
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May 04, 2018, 02:25:41 PM
Yeah, that's fair. Trying to hijack the name is shady, and not to defend them, but I do believe that they believe they're being more true to the original vision of Satoshi than the current developers, so I think they believe themselves to be the true Bitcoin. It's like when religious sects split off and each side labels the other side as heretics for not being true believers. Looks like the same mentality here by both sides.

I hear you and understand what you say but a key thing was stated by Zhuoer in an interview that he and his pools were only mining Bitcoin and then exchanging them for Bitcoin Cash. There is hypocrisy in that process. It is all too shady as far as the domain goes and well, that is life.
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May 04, 2018, 02:11:16 PM
So after the fork happened and Bitcoin Cash was created, as of today on CoinMarketCap it shows:

Bitcoin
capital $118,038,167,261
price $6,962.42
circulating 16,953,612
volume last 24 hrs $4,671,340,000   

Bitcoin Cash
capital $11,306,077,844
price $663.06
circulating 17,051,288
volume last 24 hrs $286,801,000   

On every count Bitcoin beats Bitcoin Cash so the question arises, what was the point of creating Bitcoin Cash? Apart from making very rich bitcoin holding people even more wealthier by creating Bitcoin Cash and adding to their portfolio it seems that there was no need for it. I hear about transactions fees and groups of devs so on being better at Bitcoin Cash but in all honestly what was the point?

Did all those advocating the demise of Bitcoin actually exchange all their BTC for BCH? I doubt it.

To me it seems Bitcoin was always going to come out on top of that battle so why did those whales pushing for the fork really do it and create Bitcoin Cash?

Bitcoin cash is just an altcoins and always remember that bitcoins is really expensive but the growth in the market is really good and you will surely earn a huge amount of profit from investing on it.
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May 04, 2018, 02:10:36 PM
growth was observed in both, so I am incredibly sympathetic and this and that cryptocurrency at the moment. By the way today the numbers are completely different already )
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May 04, 2018, 02:04:03 PM
Bitcoin for sure. Bitcoin cash and other similar coins are only made due to forks, or at least, are made as copies of Bitcoin. And as we all know, it's always the original that prospers. I am not saying that in consideration of the point of origin, like for example with NEO and ETH, many say that since NEO is the China copy of ETH that it's not better, I don't share that belief because copy or not, it has it's own technology at its back and it also has their own following of people who support them, it's just that people trust the original more.

100% Bitcoin. Even when Bitcoin Cash jumped so high after the Coinbase listing. Even when Roger Ver and his minions poured all their money into promoting Bitcoin Cash. Even when people said they would drop Bitcoin and adopt BCH. Nothing convinced me that it would ever sniff the success of Bitcoin. Everywhere in the world the old system is sitting up and taking notice of Bitcoin. Those who noticed BCH like in Canada even said it was a scam.

They might have done well as a fork alt, but they chose to do it in tasteless ways.
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May 04, 2018, 02:03:15 PM
BCH was created to make a few bit bitcoin owners more money and to allow a mining company to continue to illegally use the patented ASIC Boost which Segwit doesn't allow. BCH now has a group of loyalists who are trying to scam people into believing that it is actually Bitcoin, ya know despite Bitcoin already existing. There is nothing wrong with BCH in and of itself. Its just a fork. No better than hundreds of other altcoins or several other more recent Bitcoin forks, but because it was the first fork the few rich Bitcoin people pushing it have turned it into a crusade for scammers and charlatans to try to trick people by attempting to still the Bitcoin brand. They pump, they dump, they scream and rant and whine. At the end of the day its just another altcoin that the wider market has no reason to adopt over hundreds of other altcoins. If Bitcoin Cash had a different name it'd probably be worth about a tenth of its current value. It's a coin that exists for no other reason that to ride off the coattails of Bitcoin and trick as many people into buying it as possible so the rich bitcoiners who created it can get even richer.
100% correct. Completely fake marketcap you can not split a company in half and then each is worth exactly the same as the whole company before the split up.
When you divorce the two parties dont end up with a house of there own which the shared the day before.

I think you don't know how investing works. First, market cap can't be fake because it's just a computation of two inputs (price and units available) and the only way to have a "fake" marketcap is for either of the inputs to be fake. We know neither are, so it's not a fake marketcap anymore than Bitcoin's is a fake marketcap. Second, companies spin off all the time from previous companies and the two companies separately are worth more in total than the individual company was before the split. The most recent case is when PayPal spun off of eBay and the marketcap of both companies soon was much larger than eBay's marketcap was when it owned PayPal itself. This is because spinning off an entity into its own company unlocks value that might not have been represented when it was a subsidiary of the other company. BCH wasn't owned by BTC, so it's a little different in that respect, but it's by no means strange for a company to be worth substantially more overnight after being spun out into a separate entity.


Personally I have no problem with Ver, Zhuoer or Bitcoin Cash. I just prefer for clarity sake the bitcoin.com domain and everything Bitcoin related is specifically Bitcoin and hope everything Bitcoin Cash is specific to Bitcoin Cash so there is no confusion

Yeah, that's fair. Trying to hijack the name is shady, and not to defend them, but I do believe that they believe they're being more true to the original vision of Satoshi than the current developers, so I think they believe themselves to be the true Bitcoin. It's like when religious sects split off and each side labels the other side as heretics for not being true believers. Looks like the same mentality here by both sides.
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May 04, 2018, 02:00:56 PM
So after the fork happened and Bitcoin Cash was created, as of today on CoinMarketCap it shows:

Bitcoin
capital $118,038,167,261
price $6,962.42
circulating 16,953,612
volume last 24 hrs $4,671,340,000   

Bitcoin Cash
capital $11,306,077,844
price $663.06
circulating 17,051,288
volume last 24 hrs $286,801,000   

On every count Bitcoin beats Bitcoin Cash so the question arises, what was the point of creating Bitcoin Cash? Apart from making very rich bitcoin holding people even more wealthier by creating Bitcoin Cash and adding to their portfolio it seems that there was no need for it. I hear about transactions fees and groups of devs so on being better at Bitcoin Cash but in all honestly what was the point?

Did all those advocating the demise of Bitcoin actually exchange all their BTC for BCH? I doubt it.

To me it seems Bitcoin was always going to come out on top of that battle so why did those whales pushing for the fork really do it and create Bitcoin Cash?

I don't know why exactly they creat bitcoin cash but in my opinion many people can't afford the price of bitcoin now and i think they creat BCH to cover the disadvantage of bitcoin so i think that is one of the reason why they creat BCH.
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May 04, 2018, 01:56:13 PM
BitcoinCash is just a clone of Bitcoin but with faster and cheaper transtactions.
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May 04, 2018, 01:45:05 PM
I prefer to have bitcoin rather than bitcoin cash because I think when you have bitcoin you can play altcoin which can suport payment using bitcoin and for now bitcoin cash can not be used to buy altcoin
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May 04, 2018, 01:11:27 PM
I think the prospect of bitcoin is much more than BitcoinCash because it has been on the market since a long time. Bitcoin - one of the oldest crypto currency if not the very first!
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