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August 24, 2014, 08:33:15 PM
#44
  Occam's Razor would suggest to me that Satoshi Nakamoto has a strong connection to the electricity generating industry.
     But
  The whole point of Cryptography seems to be obfuscation and sending people down the wrong path's,so, i wouldn't be surprised if Satoshi is a  lone paranoid schizophrenic genius or a government agency either.
    But
 When you apply that old chestnut "qui bono"? Then the energy companies are at the front of the queue.
 The energy companies executives must love the BTC mining industry.
 Sort of like the "house's rake" on every BTC produced.
  I'm seriously thinking about buying some energy company stocks.

 
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August 24, 2014, 07:24:37 PM
#43

TOR is in part funded by a government owned entity.

firstly, the darkweb existed pre TOR. and yes the darkweb was a government creation and they used it to send data across the world to their secret agents and military. later TOR arrived as the public access.

again government inventions are used by government before public release.

I'm saying that the government simply realized that the USD could/would collapse on itself after a while(as shown by the recession in 2008 in America and more), and that the government used the codename, Satoshi Nakamoto(which is a very common name in Japan, similar to Europe's "John Smith"), to put Bitcoin out to the world.

pure theory no fact. FUD FUD FUD

It does make sense, considering according to a article I read a while back, only 300 people in the world could of created Bitcoin back in 2009. The NSA has the worlds smartest minds working for it, and with extensive reach. I find it very plausible that Satoshi Nakamoto is simply a codename for the Bitcoin project made by the government/branch of government. It's also very likely that Satoshi was more than one person, given his extensive use of the word "our". It also explains why Satoshi made it a top priority to Hide his tracks, so he wouldn't be found.

actually smart people are not automatically employed into NSA, the truth is smart people can earn alot more privately then they can on a government salary. to add to this NSA are not that smart, the fact is in the Ross ulbrich case, NSA needed to send a drive image(ISO) to the UK's GCHQ so that the british secret service could bruteforce the password.

It's either the person/people behind Satoshi Nakamoto worked for a branch of the government and made Bitcoin and released it to the world, or the person/people behind Satoshi Nakamoto is one hell of a genius who has extreme expertise in cryptography, which would make you question where he got his knowledge from(government, university?)

lastly you conspiracy theorists are obsessed with trying to link bitcoin to NSA... so let me burst the big bubble for you and then let you atleast theorize some FUD that may actually hold 1% weight.

if you researched 'satoshi' you would see that he has a british grammar and word pattern. so atleast theorize your fud to be more about UK's GCHQ.. not NSA Cheesy.

but your theory really failed when you think that smart people want and decide to work for NSA. really laughable thought process you lot have, especially with a largely evident lack of research to atleast try joining some straw to some actual evidence.

and satoshi was not the only person that helped make bitcoin. before the white paper. satoshi, hal finney, nick szabo, and another guy (with the last name that is something like wui(sorry i forgot his full name)) these were the 4 people who had code that built up bitcoin. but it was only satoshi that brought it all together into a white paper and started making version 0.1. but then hal finney popped back on the scene and satoshi, hal finney and a small group of people helped develop the first few versions, then gavin andressen joined in. jeff garzik, etc all joined in and helped out and then took over the reigns.. and today there are upto 100 different people working on the bitcoin code.

so dont presume satoshi done it all alone, he was just the smart one to pick a bit of code here, grab a theory there, tweak another idea over there, then bring it all together into the white paper.

TRY TO DO SOME RESEARCH NEXT TIME!!

I don't necessarily think that bitcoin was created by any government...I mean...it's possible but there's really no evidence indicating that it was. However, if I were Satoshi, I would throw some linguistic curve balls, like the british grammar/sentence structure, into my paper to even further secure my anonymity.
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August 24, 2014, 07:21:52 PM
#42
But didn't someone important, I think Anderson, say you should expect that bitcoin addresses could be tracked to individuals?  I think that of bitcoin gains any sort of government "recognition" they will want to eventually know who controls which address. I guess the battle will begin then.

Sure, through plain old detective work. Matching transactions with online identities, and then to real world identities.

That's if people are careless enough to leave a trail. Bitcoin can be as anonymous as an individual wishes to be.
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August 24, 2014, 07:10:16 PM
#41
But didn't someone important, I think Anderson, say you should expect that bitcoin addresses could be tracked to individuals?  I think that of bitcoin gains any sort of government "recognition" they will want to eventually know who controls which address. I guess the battle will begin then.
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August 24, 2014, 07:07:42 PM
#40
the protocol has been changed many times since it's inceptions and the protocol has been inspected and looked at by many very smart people to check for potential vulnerabilities.
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That's correct. and very important to understand. Like an academic work of mathematics, bitcoin has been, and continues to be "peer reviewed" extremely thoroughly. This is why hackers respect and use it.
I think this is something that also debunks the theory that BTC has some kind/level of "holes" in it that would allow the government to trace the flow of money from person to person in a way that is not possible to the general public.

With the widespread international adoption of bitcoin, tracking of the flow of bitcoin will not benefit any particular government (if they think they can use it to enhance tax revenue).
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August 24, 2014, 06:54:53 PM
#39
Let's be serious here, U.S Government employees are everywhere, on this forum, on chatsites, even chaterbate.

lmfao
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August 24, 2014, 06:54:12 PM
#38
No way in hell the government runs bitcoin
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August 24, 2014, 06:51:46 PM
#37
the protocol has been changed many times since it's inceptions and the protocol has been inspected and looked at by many very smart people to check for potential vulnerabilities.
'
That's correct. and very important to understand. Like an academic work of mathematics, bitcoin has been, and continues to be "peer reviewed" extremely thoroughly. This is why hackers respect and use it.
I think this is something that also debunks the theory that BTC has some kind/level of "holes" in it that would allow the government to trace the flow of money from person to person in a way that is not possible to the general public.
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August 24, 2014, 05:16:42 PM
#36
May as well say Bitcoin was created by Aliens.
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August 24, 2014, 05:14:57 PM
#35
It sounds like you might be a spook. Have you checked your badge lately? Haha! Well, anyway, you have a point as to why they can't come right out and say it, but by no means is any government 100% legitimate and for the people. Every government is corrupt and the US government is one of the more corrupt governments out there.
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August 24, 2014, 03:02:55 PM
#34
Well, they knew all the gold vaults were empty so they needed a fix.
They made a deal with the chineese that they could get zee gold because they were working on a digital superiour version of it (bitcoin)
They already knew that the world in the west did not care about gold anymore and that it could be replaced by bitcoin because it was invented the day that SHA256 was invented.

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August 24, 2014, 02:58:43 PM
#33
the protocol has been changed many times since it's inceptions and the protocol has been inspected and looked at by many very smart people to check for potential vulnerabilities.
'
That's correct. and very important to understand. Like an academic work of mathematics, bitcoin has been, and continues to be "peer reviewed" extremely thoroughly. This is why hackers respect and use it.
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August 24, 2014, 02:32:25 PM
#32
Let's be serious here, U.S Government employees are everywhere, on this forum, on chatsites, even chaterbate.

With that being said, they know the kind of BS some people spread about them with their conspiracy theories and whatnot. What if Bitcoin, was made by the government? Think about it, if the U.S government just came out and blatantly said that they created Bitcoin, then the public would react violently and start saying that the government is Socialist/Communist and etc etc. It would look bad. But, if the government made Bitcoin in secret under the sudonym, Satoshi, Nakamoto, then they could effectively improve our monetary system behind the scenes and help stop the rampant inflation the USD is facing, without having to face criticism by the complete imbeciles, we call the american public.

Basically, The U.S Government is like Batman. They do the real work in the shadows to not face criticism by ignorant people, and in those shadows, they have created a system for the future, Bitcoin.

first of all yes they are everywhere, they are probably reading this over right now.

honestly, cany you see what it really is? bitcoin founded the CIA/FBI/NSA. do you see now?

you have it backwards saying the government did this, the bitcoin protocol determines wha thappens at the government level. jeeeez
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August 24, 2014, 01:31:16 PM
#31
the fact is in the Ross ulbrich case, NSA needed to send a drive image(ISO) to the UK's GCHQ so that the british secret service could bruteforce the password.

This is an interesting assertion. Do you have a link to a source article?

Lack of support for the assertion is noted...

Oh yeah - I forgot:
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August 23, 2014, 02:44:28 PM
#30
Let's be serious here, U.S Government employees are everywhere, on this forum, on chatsites, even chaterbate.

With that being said, they know the kind of BS some people spread about them with their conspiracy theories and whatnot. What if Bitcoin, was made by the government? Think about it, if the U.S government just came out and blatantly said that they created Bitcoin, then the public would react violently and start saying that the government is Socialist/Communist and etc etc. It would look bad. But, if the government made Bitcoin in secret under the sudonym, Satoshi, Nakamoto, then they could effectively improve our monetary system behind the scenes and help stop the rampant inflation the USD is facing, without having to face criticism by the complete imbeciles, we call the american public.

Basically, The U.S Government is like Batman. They do the real work in the shadows to not face criticism by ignorant people, and in those shadows, they have created a system for the future, Bitcoin.

It may as well be the former Egyptian government. It doesn't really matter who created it, they have no more control over it than you and me. In the same way that torrent or peer-to-peer networks cannot be taken down. I don't think the public would say it is socialist/communist, they would say 'it wouldn't work'. 
This is very true. Even if the US government did create BTC with "holes" in it, the protocol has been changed many times since it's inceptions and the protocol has been inspected and looked at by many very smart people to check for potential vulnerabilities.
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August 23, 2014, 11:59:58 AM
#29
Bitcoin might be made by US govt employee but not for his county/govt...for profit only..

Who knows.
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August 23, 2014, 11:56:43 AM
#28
Can't say that they didn't. Conspiracy theories might be there as well behind Bitcoin.Though having many serious drawbacks and negative impacts bitcoin network is still standing still. Of course,the insiders always have a big hand on anything as big as this
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August 23, 2014, 11:35:33 AM
#27
I don't think any government created bitcoin, it is a free market currency over the world.
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August 06, 2014, 04:23:14 PM
#26
I don't think the U.S. government created Bitcoin, which in the future may hurt centralized currency in the world.
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August 06, 2014, 11:18:36 AM
#25
it looks conspiracy theory
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