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August 06, 2014, 12:14:47 PM
#24
Let's be serious here, U.S Government employees are everywhere, on this forum, on chatsites, even chaterbate.

With that being said, they know the kind of BS some people spread about them with their conspiracy theories and whatnot. What if Bitcoin, was made by the government? Think about it, if the U.S government just came out and blatantly said that they created Bitcoin, then the public would react violently and start saying that the government is Socialist/Communist and etc etc. It would look bad. But, if the government made Bitcoin in secret under the sudonym, Satoshi, Nakamoto, then they could effectively improve our monetary system behind the scenes and help stop the rampant inflation the USD is facing, without having to face criticism by the complete imbeciles, we call the american public.

Basically, The U.S Government is like Batman. They do the real work in the shadows to not face criticism by ignorant people, and in those shadows, they have created a system for the future, Bitcoin.

You had me till 'improve', albeit the theory may have merit.
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August 06, 2014, 12:08:54 PM
#23
the fact is in the Ross ulbrich case, NSA needed to send a drive image(ISO) to the UK's GCHQ so that the british secret service could bruteforce the password.

This is an interesting assertion. Do you have a link to a source article?

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August 06, 2014, 04:23:13 AM
#22
oh!so crazy idea!interesting.
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August 06, 2014, 12:43:08 AM
#21
People who think bitcoin is suppose to 'revolutionize' anything and talking about crypto utopia sound like those idiots back in the 90s who were preaching that internet will grant every individual a voice with dignity and freedom to engage in a communal and utopic new world of cyberspace.

How the fuck do you willingly plug yourself into the most pervasive, extensive, and powerful surveillance tool and call yourself 'free'? Apparently there's no one easier to fool then people who are 'too smart' by half.
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August 05, 2014, 11:37:42 PM
#20

TOR is in part funded by a government owned entity.

firstly, the darkweb existed pre TOR. and yes the darkweb was a government creation and they used it to send data across the world to their secret agents and military. later TOR arrived as the public access.

again government inventions are used by government before public release.

I'm saying that the government simply realized that the USD could/would collapse on itself after a while(as shown by the recession in 2008 in America and more), and that the government used the codename, Satoshi Nakamoto(which is a very common name in Japan, similar to Europe's "John Smith"), to put Bitcoin out to the world.

pure theory no fact. FUD FUD FUD

It does make sense, considering according to a article I read a while back, only 300 people in the world could of created Bitcoin back in 2009. The NSA has the worlds smartest minds working for it, and with extensive reach. I find it very plausible that Satoshi Nakamoto is simply a codename for the Bitcoin project made by the government/branch of government. It's also very likely that Satoshi was more than one person, given his extensive use of the word "our". It also explains why Satoshi made it a top priority to Hide his tracks, so he wouldn't be found.

actually smart people are not automatically employed into NSA, the truth is smart people can earn alot more privately then they can on a government salary. to add to this NSA are not that smart, the fact is in the Ross ulbrich case, NSA needed to send a drive image(ISO) to the UK's GCHQ so that the british secret service could bruteforce the password.

It's either the person/people behind Satoshi Nakamoto worked for a branch of the government and made Bitcoin and released it to the world, or the person/people behind Satoshi Nakamoto is one hell of a genius who has extreme expertise in cryptography, which would make you question where he got his knowledge from(government, university?)

lastly you conspiracy theorists are obsessed with trying to link bitcoin to NSA... so let me burst the big bubble for you and then let you atleast theorize some FUD that may actually hold 1% weight.

if you researched 'satoshi' you would see that he has a british grammar and word pattern. so atleast theorize your fud to be more about UK's GCHQ.. not NSA Cheesy.

but your theory really failed when you think that smart people want and decide to work for NSA. really laughable thought process you lot have, especially with a largely evident lack of research to atleast try joining some straw to some actual evidence.

and satoshi was not the only person that helped make bitcoin. before the white paper. satoshi, hal finney, nick szabo, and another guy (with the last name that is something like wui(sorry i forgot his full name)) these were the 4 people who had code that built up bitcoin. but it was only satoshi that brought it all together into a white paper and started making version 0.1. but then hal finney popped back on the scene and satoshi, hal finney and a small group of people helped develop the first few versions, then gavin andressen joined in. jeff garzik, etc all joined in and helped out and then took over the reigns.. and today there are upto 100 different people working on the bitcoin code.

so dont presume satoshi done it all alone, he was just the smart one to pick a bit of code here, grab a theory there, tweak another idea over there, then bring it all together into the white paper.

TRY TO DO SOME RESEARCH NEXT TIME!!
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August 05, 2014, 11:31:04 PM
#19
At the end of the day, if the government would have created BTC, they would have made it much more easily traceable.
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August 05, 2014, 11:03:39 PM
#18
government want control, they would not release a decentralized currency like bitcoin, or similarily bittorrents which they cant control.
they are already happy with the centralized digital dollars and currency for the last thousands of years, why change whats working already?
im sure the authoritarian  types in the government regret creating the internet, look at china's blocking of parts of the internet.
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August 05, 2014, 10:34:16 PM
#17
I would go out on a limb and say that there are some US Government employees that are on this forum, but not on duty... 

Just because they work for the government doesn't mean that they are 24 hours a day, job pride, trying to find people to prosecute.   They could just be here in their spare time.   Hell, didn't Mccain get caught playing poker on his cell phone during a Senate meeting or something like that?   

well, snowden was working for the NSA and he leaked all their shit. same with manning and the military. it should be expected that some government workers are into bitcoin.
Those are government agencies. That kind of stuff is expected. Bitcoin isn't part of a government, so that's it's disadvantage,
If the US Government came out and said they started Bitcoin, why would anyone revolt?

Why would people think it's socialist?

It might give the US Government some improved "street cred", haha, or at least some people may increase their respect for the project. Others of course, would sell their Bitcoin not wanting to participate in yet another pet project of a major government.

I'm sure there's 20 other responses people would have - but why revolt and claims of socialism? Bitcoin isn't socialist in any way...

People would say they're trying to create a one world order and be communist etc where everyone has equal pay. I saw a post by a claimed 12 year old saying that he/she thought Bitcoin would give everyone equal pay.
Yeah, that thread. I know which one you're talking about.

And I agree with your point completely, that's a response that wouldn't be strange to hear.
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August 05, 2014, 10:25:01 PM
#16
I would go out on a limb and say that there are some US Government employees that are on this forum, but not on duty... 

Just because they work for the government doesn't mean that they are 24 hours a day, job pride, trying to find people to prosecute.   They could just be here in their spare time.   Hell, didn't Mccain get caught playing poker on his cell phone during a Senate meeting or something like that?   

well, snowden was working for the NSA and he leaked all their shit. same with manning and the military. it should be expected that some government workers are into bitcoin.
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August 05, 2014, 09:07:34 PM
#15
If the US Government came out and said they started Bitcoin, why would anyone revolt?

Why would people think it's socialist?

It might give the US Government some improved "street cred", haha, or at least some people may increase their respect for the project. Others of course, would sell their Bitcoin not wanting to participate in yet another pet project of a major government.

I'm sure there's 20 other responses people would have - but why revolt and claims of socialism? Bitcoin isn't socialist in any way...

People would say they're trying to create a one world order and be communist etc where everyone has equal pay. I saw a post by a claimed 12 year old saying that he/she thought Bitcoin would give everyone equal pay.
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August 05, 2014, 09:01:43 PM
#14
This thread makes absolutely no sense what so ever.

Why create bitcoin and then have to deal with the tax issues or even the silk road issues?

Its more like an anti government movement if anything.

Ok you obviously have no idea the rate technology is expanding and how creating something like Bitcoin would actually open up new ideas/paths for stopping criminals etc. Yea, I have no idea why I made this thread since the replies I've gotten are full of ignorant stupidity. It's odd how people involved in Bitcoin are supposed to be open, but they're all wearing 10 inch thick tinfoil hats.

But you believe "litecoin is dead" when its clearly not. What kind of a belief system is that?
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August 05, 2014, 08:57:21 PM
#13
This thread makes absolutely no sense what so ever.

Why create bitcoin and then have to deal with the tax issues or even the silk road issues?

Its more like an anti government movement if anything.

Ok you obviously have no idea the rate technology is expanding and how creating something like Bitcoin would actually open up new ideas/paths for stopping criminals etc. Yea, I have no idea why I made this thread since the replies I've gotten are full of ignorant stupidity. It's odd how people involved in Bitcoin are supposed to be open, but they're all wearing 10 inch thick tinfoil hats.
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August 05, 2014, 08:54:36 PM
#12
This thread makes absolutely no sense what so ever.

Why create bitcoin and then have to deal with the tax issues or even the silk road issues?

Its more like an anti government movement if anything.
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August 05, 2014, 08:52:12 PM
#11
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August 05, 2014, 08:51:23 PM
#10
This is the same guy who started a thread titled "Litecoin is Dead," and then went around deleting all the replys to the contrary. He still bumps his own thread. Either he is trying to buy cheap litecoin or he has a screw loose. Either way, I didn't even read this post because there's no reason to because this guy wrote it.
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August 05, 2014, 08:37:37 PM
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August 05, 2014, 08:36:09 PM
#8
If the US Government came out and said they started Bitcoin, why would anyone revolt?

Why would people think it's socialist?

It might give the US Government some improved "street cred", haha, or at least some people may increase their respect for the project. Others of course, would sell their Bitcoin not wanting to participate in yet another pet project of a major government.

I'm sure there's 20 other responses people would have - but why revolt and claims of socialism? Bitcoin isn't socialist in any way...
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August 05, 2014, 08:03:49 PM
#7
Let's be serious here, U.S Government employees are everywhere, on this forum, on chatsites, even chaterbate.

With that being said, they know the kind of BS some people spread about them with their conspiracy theories and whatnot. What if Bitcoin, was made by the government? Think about it, if the U.S government just came out and blatantly said that they created Bitcoin, then the public would react violently and start saying that the government is Socialist/Communist and etc etc. It would look bad. But, if the government made Bitcoin in secret under the sudonym, Satoshi, Nakamoto, then they could effectively improve our monetary system behind the scenes and help stop the rampant inflation the USD is facing, without having to face criticism by the complete imbeciles, we call the american public.

Basically, The U.S Government is like Batman. They do the real work in the shadows to not face criticism by ignorant people, and in those shadows, they have created a system for the future, Bitcoin.

It may as well be the former Egyptian government. It doesn't really matter who created it, they have no more control over it than you and me. In the same way that torrent or peer-to-peer networks cannot be taken down. I don't think the public would say it is socialist/communist, they would say 'it wouldn't work'.  
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August 05, 2014, 07:58:41 PM
#6
The US gov and the banks would not make bitcoin.
Something like ripple though? With set authorities and being distributed rather than free to expand at the will of the users, yep, sounds perfect for them.
I would kind of doubt that the USG would create either of these. I really don't see the upside to the government for either bitcoin or ripple.
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August 05, 2014, 07:56:18 PM
#5
I would go out on a limb and say that there are some US Government employees that are on this forum, but not on duty... 

Just because they work for the government doesn't mean that they are 24 hours a day, job pride, trying to find people to prosecute.   They could just be here in their spare time.   Hell, didn't Mccain get caught playing poker on his cell phone during a Senate meeting or something like that?   
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