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Topic: Bitcoin will get half million dollars prices by 2030 : Blockchain.info CEO - page 3. (Read 4027 times)

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They're making a lot of silly assumptions.

"From 2013 to 2017, the network grew from 120,000 users to 6.5 million users, nearly a 54-fold gain. Such growth would produce 400 million users in 2030."

That's one of them. That reminds of the cartoon about infinite husbands based on future projection.

And I don't believe there will ever be a Bitcoin ETF.

400 million users isn't unrealistic at all.

facebook has like 2 billion users or so.

400 million users is like 5% of the worlds population.

it's not that much honestly. 

and considering it's most likely going to be a pretty wealthy 5% it would be much more then 5% of the world's total wealth.

it can easily be 25% of the world's total wealth in bitcoin.
I need to agree with your perspective, 400 million people using blockchain is much for current days, but taking the population of Earth under consideration, 400 millions isnt so much.
Systems which are designed to transfer money to different people and companies need to have an ability to operate massive amount of requests, and that is the another reason why bitcoin is still not ready to replace e.g paypal or banking systems- the throttle of network isn't big enough to operate so many transactions in a short period of time.

To change this, we need most importantly faster confirmations, because without being able to transfer your money in few seconds, bitcoin won't be used as a best payment method all around the globe, simply because it is too slow.

Yes.

And considering at the moment that only 40% of the whole world uses the internet and 20 years ago (1997) only 2% of the whole world used the internet and it grew from 2% to 30% in 15 years (2010) (which is the comparison between 2017 and 2030 for BTC).

Now take into consideration that less than 0.006% of the world population had a wallet worth more than 1 BTC last Sept 2016. And in 1991 world wide web was born and 6 years later 2% of the world had it. Its highly likely that BTC will something similar as the internet in growth. But I will tell you better in 2030 what the price will be, but until then I'm just going to buy it. I don't know if BTC as we know it today will be the same then, probably not, but whatever it is I want to own it. And when it morphs into something else by forking I plan to follow it. Just hold the coin after it forks, wait to see where the value goes and then sell off the old one and keep the knew one.
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Then buy these 100BTC at these idiotic and low prices such as $1000-$1200 and forget about crypto after storing them in unused addresses and printing a few paper wallets as back up then go live your life for another 10-15 years and when price reached your goal sell them to have $50M in cash at your disposal, imagine someone with 500K bitcoins could be a billionaire.
legendary
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I believe everyone will love this speculation. Read on here : https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/bitcoin-price-hit-500000-2030-says-snapchats-first-investor

They are not just throwing blind balls but come with solid evidences to support their speculation.
bitcoin isnt for mobile small transaction based activities. Its a store of value. 5% of the world population because more mobile phones? Nah. Sry I want to believe but this is going to far. We cant expect an infinite exponential growth for 13 years to come. Everyone who thinks that will get burned eventually. Name 1 thing that you can compare with bitcoin that has a exponential growth for 13 years? Thats right : none. Anyway I believe in Bitcoin but 500 000 USD? Nah

I also agree with this.  The prediction (more on speculation in my point of view)  is way overboard.  We cannot just say Bitcoin will rich a certain price without considering resistance and competition.  Aside from that  Price value does not dwell on the adoption alone, there are lots of unseen thing that will possibly resist that price.
legendary
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I dont think so, bitcoin will be a good price, but not 500k $ per btc...

Right, the chances to see this price per bitcoin is very very low (mostly impossible).

But I think that there are lots of bitcoin that affects the bitcoin price because the price can't get so much high because most of bitcoin holders will get rich within a short period of time.
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The growth is too much, required for $500,000. How can this be possible? please somebody explain. I don't get how this is "realistically possible". Everything is possible, but this is far from "realistically". I hope it is right, but I highly doubt it. It would be the highest marketcap in the world.... almost impossible.
If the price of bitcoin started its journey at $10 and touched $1000 in a very short span of time then the speculation can weigh some advantages as it is possible to see another good bull run but how much you can push the price and how much time it will take cannot be predicted .Lets speculate by 2030 the ETF will be approved and that will boost some major investments and more countries will accept bitcoin as a mode of transaction and those could make a huge impact in the price,but will it reach half a million dollar,i dont think so but fifty thousand is acceptable. Cheesy
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The growth is too much, required for $500,000. How can this be possible? please somebody explain. I don't get how this is "realistically possible". Everything is possible, but this is far from "realistically". I hope it is right, but I highly doubt it. It would be the highest marketcap in the world.... almost impossible.
It wouldn't be the highest market cap in the world.  What would be required for it to happen is for Bitcoin's market cap to reach parity with that of gold and a bit higher.  That's more than possible if Bitcoin became viewed as a stable asset more than a currency and it was used for the purposes that they mentioned, such as expats sending money back home.

It's not likely that everyone will use it, but a more significant amount of money than now will definitely be put into it.
legendary
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The growth is too much, required for $500,000. How can this be possible? please somebody explain. I don't get how this is "realistically possible". Everything is possible, but this is far from "realistically". I hope it is right, but I highly doubt it. It would be the highest marketcap in the world.... almost impossible.
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They're making a lot of silly assumptions.

"From 2013 to 2017, the network grew from 120,000 users to 6.5 million users, nearly a 54-fold gain. Such growth would produce 400 million users in 2030."

That's one of them. That reminds of the cartoon about infinite husbands based on future projection.

And I don't believe there will ever be a Bitcoin ETF.

400 million users isn't unrealistic at all.

facebook has like 2 billion users or so.

400 million users is like 5% of the worlds population.

it's not that much honestly. 

and considering it's most likely going to be a pretty wealthy 5% it would be much more then 5% of the world's total wealth.

it can easily be 25% of the world's total wealth in bitcoin.
I need to agree with your perspective, 400 million people using blockchain is much for current days, but taking the population of Earth under consideration, 400 millions isnt so much.
Systems which are designed to transfer money to different people and companies need to have an ability to operate massive amount of requests, and that is the another reason why bitcoin is still not ready to replace e.g paypal or banking systems- the throttle of network isn't big enough to operate so many transactions in a short period of time.

To change this, we need most importantly faster confirmations, because without being able to transfer your money in few seconds, bitcoin won't be used as a best payment method all around the globe, simply because it is too slow.
legendary
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They're making a lot of silly assumptions.

"From 2013 to 2017, the network grew from 120,000 users to 6.5 million users, nearly a 54-fold gain. Such growth would produce 400 million users in 2030."

That's one of them. That reminds of the cartoon about infinite husbands based on future projection.

And I don't believe there will ever be a Bitcoin ETF.

400 million users isn't unrealistic at all.

facebook has like 2 billion users or so.

400 million users is like 5% of the worlds population.

it's not that much honestly.  

and considering it's most likely going to be a pretty wealthy 5% it would be much more then 5% of the world's total wealth.

it can easily be 25% of the world's total wealth in bitcoin.

Indeed we don't even need a lot of people, we just need whales moving their wealth into bitcoin, or a % of it.

But, I don't see how bitcoin can surpass gold's marketcap in 10 years, sounds crazy to me...
sr. member
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They're making a lot of silly assumptions.

"From 2013 to 2017, the network grew from 120,000 users to 6.5 million users, nearly a 54-fold gain. Such growth would produce 400 million users in 2030."

That's one of them. That reminds of the cartoon about infinite husbands based on future projection.

And I don't believe there will ever be a Bitcoin ETF.

400 million users isn't unrealistic at all.

facebook has like 2 billion users or so.

400 million users is like 5% of the worlds population.

it's not that much honestly. 

and considering it's most likely going to be a pretty wealthy 5% it would be much more then 5% of the world's total wealth.

it can easily be 25% of the world's total wealth in bitcoin.
I want to believe lol.
legendary
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They're making a lot of silly assumptions.

"From 2013 to 2017, the network grew from 120,000 users to 6.5 million users, nearly a 54-fold gain. Such growth would produce 400 million users in 2030."

That's one of them. That reminds of the cartoon about infinite husbands based on future projection.

And I don't believe there will ever be a Bitcoin ETF.

400 million users isn't unrealistic at all.

facebook has like 2 billion users or so.

400 million users is like 5% of the worlds population.

it's not that much honestly. 

and considering it's most likely going to be a pretty wealthy 5% it would be much more then 5% of the world's total wealth.

it can easily be 25% of the world's total wealth in bitcoin.
sr. member
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I believe everyone will love this speculation. Read on this here : https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/bitcoin-price-hit-500000-2030-says-snapchats-first-investor

They are not just throwing blind balls but come with solid evidences to support their speculation.

Usually both positive and negative speculations will occur quicker than expected. We may speculate price levels some what accurately but not the time frame. So, time of 2030 may  shrink to 2025 too, what you think ?
I will like that but being realistic that is not really going to happen unless bitcoin has major adoption, I think a more realistic amount will be something close to 10 to 20 thousand dollars instead and even that may be difficult to achieve.
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I would retire instantly if I was able to hold as much money as $500,000 in 10 years. I think most of us wouldn't still be at official retirement age, so that would me amazing.

But im confused about this thread title. It says "blockchain.info CEO", but the one that said this is the original snapchat investor.

How long do you think you could last on $500,000 in retirement? It costs ~$219,000 to pay for food in retirement for two people...that doesn't leave much left on a balance of $500,000.

By the way, the Blockchain.info CEO was one of the first investors in Snapchat.
sr. member
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Too positive prediction. Bitcoin will certainly grow, but not so fast. He will have both falls and competition, this is just an unrealistic figure for such a period of time.
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Too positive prediction. Bitcoin will certainly grow, but not so fast. He will have both falls and competition, this is just an unrealistic figure for such a period of time.
legendary
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Haha, when I first read this I thought I would hand in my notice at work, remortgage the house and go crazy and then in 2030 I can pay off all the debt.  Then I opened my eyes, had my coffee and went to work.

It would be nice but I seriously doubt this prediction will come true, but strange things do happen.
hero member
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I believe everyone will love this speculation. Read on this here : https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/bitcoin-price-hit-500000-2030-says-snapchats-first-investor

They are not just throwing blind balls but come with solid evidences to support their speculation.

Usually both positive and negative speculations will occur quicker than expected. We may speculate price levels some what accurately but not the time frame. So, time of 2030 may  shrink to 2025 too, what you think ?
All I can say is that the time frame mentioned by them for bitcoin to reach 500000 on 2030 seems like to short since in my opinion it might take longer time for bitcoin to really reach the speculated price. It would be good though that a person with reputation speculates bitcoin's price since this might inspire others to invest in it by just looking at his speculation even though it might not be reached.
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I think the scenario if bitcoin did reach half a million bucks by 2030 would be a total collapse of the fiat protocol and bitcoin takes centre stage. That is the most likely scenario to happen, since half a million dollars would be worth a lot less than it does now.
This does not need to be true. There will be two community in this world by 2030 one of them will be using fiats for their living and the others leading their life with bitcoins. Similar things will be applicable to merchants and hence we cannot claim bitcoin conquered the center stage and fiats got subsided. Both will find their ways even with bitcoin value hits one millions levels.

This is because of the buying capacity of bitcoin will not power just few people but probably 10% to 20% of world population, this must be highly equivalent to those people got new high paying jobs, a new job will change the world drastically ?

If that is the case then again, fiat would have lost its market share and bitcoin would have taken over.

If fiat was ever abandoned by half the population of the world then that would definitely cause a lot of panic and disorder, plus a fiat currency value slump. That would mean that bitcoin will rise in value accordingly as well.

But your theory is something that is very likely to happen in my opinion.
legendary
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I think the scenario if bitcoin did reach half a million bucks by 2030 would be a total collapse of the fiat protocol and bitcoin takes centre stage. That is the most likely scenario to happen, since half a million dollars would be worth a lot less than it does now.
This does not need to be true. There will be two community in this world by 2030 one of them will be using fiats for their living and the others leading their life with bitcoins. Similar things will be applicable to merchants and hence we cannot claim bitcoin conquered the center stage and fiats got subsided. Both will find their ways even with bitcoin value hits one millions levels.

This is because of the buying capacity of bitcoin will not power just few people but probably 10% to 20% of world population, this must be highly equivalent to those people got new high paying jobs, a new job will change the world drastically ?
hero member
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I believe everyone will love this speculation. Read on this here : https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/bitcoin-price-hit-500000-2030-says-snapchats-first-investor

They are not just throwing blind balls but come with solid evidences to support their speculation.

Usually both positive and negative speculations will occur quicker than expected. We may speculate price levels some what accurately but not the time frame. So, time of 2030 may  shrink to 2025 too, what you think ?

Actually I would not be surprised if bitcoin did reach half a million dollars in 2030.

However as you said, it is all pure speculation. There is no technical analysis, but in certain circumstances a good speculation is more reliable than technical analysis as it takes into account people's emotion and other stuff.

I think the scenario if bitcoin did reach half a million bucks by 2030 would be a total collapse of the fiat protocol and bitcoin takes centre stage. That is the most likely scenario to happen, since half a million dollars would be worth a lot less than it does now.

It is always interesting to hold something that can rise in value so quickly like bitcoin in your possession.

Makes a great investment.
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