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Quote from: OgNasty on September 19, 2023, 07:16:52 PM

I would disagree respectfully. I don’t see a new all time high being broken before the halving and possibly not even in 2024. Sure, a lot depends on if mtgox is ever going to distribute their BTC and if a spot ETF is approved, but I’d point to the past as a guide for the future. If we see a new all time high before the halving, that would signal to me that the ultimate peak for this cycle could be over half a million dollars.

that would be more exciting if ATH broken before halving as there might be a Half a Million value coming , but like you Mate i don't see it coming this way .
there are lot of circumstances that hinders the ATH coming very soon , and that would be the reason why many of people here are not going towards the claim.

Quote from: Fundamentals Of on September 18, 2023, 08:36:19 PM

There are people and institutions that think Bitcoin could indeed break the ATH even before the halving. I actually started a discussion more than a month ago about the respected Adam Back having a bet that Bitcoin would reach $100,000 before the halving. I don't agree with his prediction of course, but it makes me wonder what they are seeing that convinced them that things would be really good prior to the halving. BitQuant's prediction is rather high and I don't think it's easily reached, but they must be truly bullish of what's to come early in 2024.

yes , have also crossed that thread of yours and other almost similar and I also disagree.
not unless there is a great news coming that would push people to go into this.

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Quote from: Oshosondy on September 16, 2023, 02:28:52 AM

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No, #Bitcoin is not going to top before the halving.
Yes, it's going to reach a new all-time high before the halving.
No, #BTC is not going to $160K because the magnitude of every pullback is large. This means it will peak after the halving, in 2024. And yes, the target price is around $250K.

What BitQuant is saying is that before the next halving, bitcoin will reach all-time-high but it will not be the all-time-high before a massive bear market will begin again. That bitcoin will later still increase up to $250000 after halving, which would be the all-time-high.

I know some of you people will agree that bitcoin may reach $250000. What about bitcoin to reach all-time-high before halving? As for me, I do not think so and the all-time-high I am predicting is $170000.

All time highs do really usually happening on the time that halving event do happen and it would really be happening after and not before but pretty sure that there would really be some pumps or reaching out 69k before it would really be shooting up but i do agree on the fact that that there would really be some huge pullbacks on which it would really be that making the pace might slow. We are all could make out assumptions basing up on the history but we do know that there's no assurance that it would really be happening in the post halving event and this is something that most likely to happen.

Accumulation period should really be now but it seems that people or investors are really that still skeptical with the current market condition and do still really hesitating on making some position
and its not surprising that people would really be that only trying to buy on the time that they would really be seeing the price is having that huge movements.
You could really make out some advantage if you do it now but of course we are really always loving on hunting that bottom.

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I would disagree respectfully. I don’t see a new all time high being broken before the halving and possibly not even in 2024. Sure, a lot depends on if mtgox is ever going to distribute their BTC and if a spot ETF is approved, but I’d point to the past as a guide for the future. If we see a new all time high before the halving, that would signal to me that the ultimate peak for this cycle could be over half a million dollars.

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Quote from: romero121 on September 18, 2023, 12:20:33 PM

What does bitquant does. They keep speculating about the bitcoin market in relation to incidents happening around. For now there isn't no big thing. The upcoming halving is the biggest one. Just as that, they could've put forth some statements as prediction. Just because they've come up with a prediction of price to reach high, it doesn't mean that the price will reach the mentioned price. They are market makers and their responsibility is to make people accept bitcoin and buy as much possible taking account of the upcoming halving.

the fact that they spread such speculation meaning they trying to influence the market, but if the market direction is bullish then i'm all for it.
the halving in the future might be massive changing point for bitcoin and I personally have no problem with having next bullrun appearing as soon as having event is arriving.
therefore i'm quite faithful with this speculation because it just aligned with my purpose of investment.
even such speculation gives positive energy that the ever awaited bullrun definitely gonna arrive eventually soon.

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Quote from: bitterguy28 on September 18, 2023, 09:19:47 PM

Quote from: Fundamentals Of on September 18, 2023, 08:36:19 PM

There are people and institutions that think Bitcoin could indeed break the ATH even before the halving. I actually started a discussion more than a month ago about the respected Adam Back having a bet that Bitcoin would reach $100,000 before the halving. I don't agree with his prediction of course, but it makes me wonder what they are seeing that convinced them that things would be really good prior to the halving. BitQuant's prediction is rather high and I don't think it's easily reached, but they must be truly bullish of what's to come early in 2024.

over expecting will only lead you to disappointment , so why expect that much when we already Knew that this is not going anywhere that close before Bitcoin halving ends and that also will take a quarter or 2 before completely taking effect?
am not sure what does this means for many but like you , I don't wanna listen to such prediction because it is obviously a shilling move for bitcoin believers.
we will be lucky that before halving we will taste 50k again though i doubt will even coming.

I sometimes encounter these predictions, read a few of them, but I don't necessarily believe them. Sometimes I'm a little amazed at how bullish some of them are. They're the complete opposite of naysayers, those gloom and doom people like Peter Schiff.

I am just an onlooker of all these things. If it comes, it's good. If it doesn't, it's also good. But I don't think we can also say that "we already knew that this is not going anywhere." Bitcoin's price is highly unpredictable.

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Quote from: Fundamentals Of on September 18, 2023, 08:36:19 PM

There are people and institutions that think Bitcoin could indeed break the ATH even before the halving. I actually started a discussion more than a month ago about the respected Adam Back having a bet that Bitcoin would reach $100,000 before the halving. I don't agree with his prediction of course, but it makes me wonder what they are seeing that convinced them that things would be really good prior to the halving. BitQuant's prediction is rather high and I don't think it's easily reached, but they must be truly bullish of what's to come early in 2024.

over expecting will only lead you to disappointment , so why expect that much when we already Knew that this is not going anywhere that close before Bitcoin halving ends and that also will take a quarter or 2 before completely taking effect?
am not sure what does this means for many but like you , I don't wanna listen to such prediction because it is obviously a shilling move for bitcoin believers.
we will be lucky that before halving we will taste 50k again though i doubt will even coming.

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There are people and institutions that think Bitcoin could indeed break the ATH even before the halving. I actually started a discussion more than a month ago about the respected Adam Back having a bet that Bitcoin would reach $100,000 before the halving. I don't agree with his prediction of course, but it makes me wonder what they are seeing that convinced them that things would be really good prior to the halving. BitQuant's prediction is rather high and I don't think it's easily reached, but they must be truly bullish of what's to come early in 2024.

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Quote from: Oshosondy on September 16, 2023, 02:28:52 AM

Quote from: https://twitter.com/BitQua/status/1702629973037658249?t=YrE0pk4KW_O223KAPi99Sw&s=19

No, #Bitcoin is not going to top before the halving.
Yes, it's going to reach a new all-time high before the halving.
No, #BTC is not going to $160K because the magnitude of every pullback is large. This means it will peak after the halving, in 2024. And yes, the target price is around $250K.

What BitQuant is saying is that before the next halving, bitcoin will reach all-time-high but it will not be the all-time-high before a massive bear market will begin again. That bitcoin will later still increase up to $250000 after halving, which would be the all-time-high.

I know some of you people will agree that bitcoin may reach $250000. What about bitcoin to reach all-time-high before halving? As for me, I do not think so and the all-time-high I am predicting is $170000.

never that I come to think of Bitcoin will ever reach All Time High before Halving
as this will be not what we have use to believe and understand.
for how many times now that Halving is the Indicator when to or what to increase in time high?
and now there is thsi (whom I dont know ) telling us in pure prediction with million Luck in his mind?
it will not mate, sorry for all of those who wanted this to happen.

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Quote from: WatChe on September 18, 2023, 01:32:02 PM

Quote from: Woodie on September 18, 2023, 07:42:50 AM

As much as BitQuant might try to be a great sales man with all these tactics to try pursued people into buying of bitcoin, unfortunately bitcoin isn't has speculative as it was back in the day, and you can clearly see that current markets aren't as volatile as they were either...but to get to a new all time high some catalyst or stimuli has to be present and I see the BTC ETF just what we need to push price there as this one will bring in big money and demand & anybody not buying these discounted coins should be ready to buy at a premium in the near future.

If you see price pattern of Bitcoin then it's very much clear that Bitcoin after every halving goes up in price and this is what everyone predicting for this halving. Bitcoin price do get affected because of news but not as much as they were in the past. We recently saw few ups and downs due to news about bitcoin (SpaceX selling Bitcoin and decision in favor of Bitcoin ETF). But we all are waiting for some push that will take Bitcoin price beyond 30k.

I agree that the Bitcoin price pattern is soaring after the Bitcoin halving event but there is no record that the Bitcoin price had broken the previous ATH before the halving event happens. It looks like this speculation of BitQuant is intentionally created to get the attention of people and at the same time get them some exposure and succeeded else we are not talking about their prediction in this thread.

I still think that the speculation of BitQuant is exaggerated since looking at the current situation of the market, Bitcoin is having a hard time breaking $30k barrier. And there is not enough hype that can supplement the upcoming halving event to propel the Bitcoin price in breaking its ATH before the halving event happens.

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It is what it is; the Bitcoin price remains dynamic and speculative. I know that the Bitcoin price can be very volatile, and I will not be surprised if I see an ATH before the halving period. If I see something like $150k before the halving, I will be happy and hopeful for $200k+ after the halving. But again, I wish all that could become possible, just as speculated; it's going to be a huge profit for every investor's portfolio.

Based on my own speculation, I don't think Bitcoin can get to an ATH unless after the Bitcoin halving and when we are fully in the bull market.

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Quote from: Oshosondy on September 16, 2023, 02:28:52 AM

What BitQuant is saying is that before the next halving, bitcoin will reach all-time-high but it will not be the all-time-high before a massive bear market will begin again. That bitcoin will later still increase up to $250000 after halving, which would be the all-time-high.

I know some of you people will agree that bitcoin may reach $250000. What about bitcoin to reach all-time-high before halving? As for me, I do not think so and the all-time-high I am predicting is $170000.

Nothing wrong with that speculation but nothing wrong as well with not believing it because we are all don't have a clue as to what will happen next. In fact, we never have seen an ATH come before halving in the past 2 halvings, it was after the said event. So, I'm not going to believe it rather than believe what I saw in the previous years. If I'm wrong, I accept but I stand with that because that is what happened in the past and even to say that the market has changed a lot, is still not enough.

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Quote from: Oshosondy on September 16, 2023, 02:28:52 AM

What BitQuant is saying is that before the next halving, bitcoin will reach all-time-high but it will not be the all-time-high before a massive bear market will begin again. That bitcoin will later still increase up to $250000 after halving, which would be the all-time-high.

I know some of you people will agree that bitcoin may reach $250000. What about bitcoin to reach all-time-high before halving? As for me, I do not think so and the

I don't know what his motivation is but I doubt if there is any serious data to substantiate this over-ambitious projections. Personally, I also do not agree with his prediction because I do not see any major news that will propel such explosive move before the halving. Nevertheless, if by chance any of the Bitcoin ETFs got approved, maybe, we can see this propose price trajectory else, I will just take this as another clout chasing.

Quote from: michellee on September 16, 2023, 05:45:32 AM

If that really happens, all Bitcoin investors will welcome it happily and many people will sell their Bitcoin at the price

I doubt that many people, especially the informed, will sell before halving. Why should someone do that? Anyone who held Bitcoin from last you up to this year, only to sell at around $70k before halving does not have solid plans for his Bitcoin stash. Such a person might be those who bought the hype of last bull run and entered around the ATH, so any chance they get to breakeven will be utilized without hesitation.

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Quote from: Oshosondy on September 16, 2023, 02:28:52 AM

Quote from: https://twitter.com/BitQua/status/1702629973037658249?t=YrE0pk4KW_O223KAPi99Sw&s=19

No, #Bitcoin is not going to top before the halving.
Yes, it's going to reach a new all-time high before the halving.
No, #BTC is not going to $160K because the magnitude of every pullback is large. This means it will peak after the halving, in 2024. And yes, the target price is around $250K.

What BitQuant is saying is that before the next halving, bitcoin will reach all-time-high but it will not be the all-time-high before a massive bear market will begin again. That bitcoin will later still increase up to $250000 after halving, which would be the all-time-high.

I know some of you people will agree that bitcoin may reach $250000. What about bitcoin to reach all-time-high before halving? As for me, I do not think so and the all-time-high I am predicting is $170000.

If bitcoin were to move that much before the halving even took place then something outside of it must have happened for that movement to occur, what do those people think it could happen that could make the price of bitcoin to move in that manner? As it seems unlikely that suddenly out of nowhere bitcoin will begin to grow with such strength, when at this time bitcoin does not have the strength to surpass the 30k level and it dumped because of it.

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Quote from: Woodie on September 18, 2023, 07:42:50 AM

As much as BitQuant might try to be a great sales man with all these tactics to try pursued people into buying of bitcoin, unfortunately bitcoin isn't has speculative as it was back in the day, and you can clearly see that current markets aren't as volatile as they were either...but to get to a new all time high some catalyst or stimuli has to be present and I see the BTC ETF just what we need to push price there as this one will bring in big money and demand & anybody not buying these discounted coins should be ready to buy at a premium in the near future.

If you see price pattern of Bitcoin then it's very much clear that Bitcoin after every halving goes up in price and this is what everyone predicting for this halving. Bitcoin price do get affected because of news but not as much as they were in the past. We recently saw few ups and downs due to news about bitcoin (SpaceX selling Bitcoin and decision in favor of Bitcoin ETF). But we all are waiting for some push that will take Bitcoin price beyond 30k.

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What does bitquant does. They keep speculating about the bitcoin market in relation to incidents happening around. For now there isn't no big thing. The upcoming halving is the biggest one. Just as that, they could've put forth some statements as prediction. Just because they've come up with a prediction of price to reach high, it doesn't mean that the price will reach the mentioned price. They are market makers and their responsibility is to make people accept bitcoin and buy as much possible taking account of the upcoming halving.

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Quote from: TimeTeller on September 18, 2023, 11:24:08 AM

As anyone can speculate on what may possibly happen, before or after halving, it is our own prerogative whether to put money into this market or not.
If we have good feeling about it and you have your funds to invest, why not? This is your money, so it is up to you where you want to channel your funds.
The prediction of price after halving is quite high, but if you do really think that this will happen, then, right now, you should be doing something to collect more satoshis.
What I am trying to convey here is that, each of us have different financial capabilities and beliefs on this market.
Thus, the decision is on you at the end of the day. Because whether you gain profit or not, it is your funds at stake.

Well that so funny, you mean we should start investing since anyone can speculate and it can possibly happens, it is still important to note and be prepared for sometimes where your speculations can still fails, so while you may win, some time you also lose that is how the market works, and we have to play along with that, and also we have to put in place measures that can help up to prevent possible outcome of negative markets.

This is very important because that is the only way we can protect our future investment using our past experiences in speculating Bitcoin market and the outcome of our speculations.

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Quote from: Nrcewker on September 17, 2023, 01:09:38 PM

All these predictions without any proper technical analysis is useless. Yes we know that Bitcoins are approaching towards something big. But quoting a number out of nowhere doesn’t make any sense. We know Bitcoins follow a 4 year cycle in order to reach its new ATH price. 2024 is the 4th year and many have high expectations from it. So don’t waste time on predicting exact numbers. Buy and accumulate the coins in this low price and enjoy profits when new ATH is reached.

I agree with you on the fact that, it is inappropriate to allocate any number to the price we perceived Bitcoin to reach before the March-April Bitcoin halving, and for that what we can do is to speculate the price based on our assumptions of the fact that bitcoin have the possibility of reaching an amount that is beyond what we currently speculate.

At most we can say that Bitcoin could possibly break, a level that may be higher than the last all time high price before the halving, but certainly not making another all time high price before the next halving, highest we can have is to come close to that amount of last ATH benchmark.

As anyone can speculate on what may possibly happen, before or after halving, it is our own prerogative whether to put money into this market or not.
If we have good feeling about it and you have your funds to invest, why not? This is your money, so it is up to you where you want to channel your funds.
The prediction of price after halving is quite high, but if you do really think that this will happen, then, right now, you should be doing something to collect more satoshis.
What I am trying to convey here is that, each of us have different financial capabilities and beliefs on this market.
Thus, the decision is on you at the end of the day. Because whether you gain profit or not, it is your funds at stake.

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Quote from: Nrcewker on September 17, 2023, 01:09:38 PM

All these predictions without any proper technical analysis is useless. Yes we know that Bitcoins are approaching towards something big. But quoting a number out of nowhere doesn’t make any sense. We know Bitcoins follow a 4 year cycle in order to reach its new ATH price. 2024 is the 4th year and many have high expectations from it. So don’t waste time on predicting exact numbers. Buy and accumulate the coins in this low price and enjoy profits when new ATH is reached.

I agree with you on the fact that, it is inappropriate to allocate any number to the price we perceived Bitcoin to reach before the March-April Bitcoin halving, and for that what we can do is to speculate the price based on our assumptions of the fact that bitcoin have the possibility of reaching an amount that is beyond what we currently speculate.

At most we can say that Bitcoin could possibly break, a level that may be higher than the last all time high price before the halving, but certainly not making another all time high price before the next halving, highest we can have is to come close to that amount of last ATH benchmark.

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As much as BitQuant might try to be a great sales man with all these tactics to try pursued people into buying of bitcoin, unfortunately bitcoin isn't has speculative as it was back in the day, and you can clearly see that current markets aren't as volatile as they were either...but to get to a new all time high some catalyst or stimuli has to be present and I see the BTC ETF just what we need to push price there as this one will bring in big money and demand & anybody not buying these discounted coins should be ready to buy at a premium in the near future.

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I also don't think so, it is unlikely that we will see Bitcoin at all-time highs before halving.

This has not happened before, and I do not think it will happen now. According to Bitcoin’s historical cycles, the ATH is always after the halving and not before it. I don't know where BitQuant got this analysis from but it's unlikely.

Although I say that it does not necessarily happen what is expected, it often happens that the opposite of the majority’s expectations occurs, when everyone expects a rise, there is a fall and the opposite is also true, but in the end we have become very close to halving. Let us wait and see.

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