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legendary
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October 17, 2021, 02:59:32 PM
Exchange traded funds (ETFs) will open a wide range of investment opportunities directly into Bitcoin without the need to actually hold it, just like in futures. So, SEC's decision is obviously going to affect rich guys' hopes about an ETF being approved or not, but we, the small investors must not worry or even think about it. And FYI, always remember this - Buy the tumors, sell the facts. Even if ETF gets approved, mark it that BTC will fall before rising to a new ATH just to wipe out paper hands.
full member
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October 06, 2018, 02:24:49 AM
bitcoin will not die with received ETFs or not, which causes Bitcoin to fall now due to massive sales, because investors panic and sell their assets for fear of rejection of ETF will make bitcoin increasingly fall and die, so investors panic and large-scale sales making bitcoin now fall is not due to rejection of ETF.
jr. member
Activity: 139
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October 06, 2018, 02:21:41 AM
One of the question i keep asking is that where was ETF when bitcoin was created and emerging ? Now it now seems everything depends on ETF final say. such is life. Bitcoin will be made with or without ETF .
full member
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October 06, 2018, 01:59:26 AM
In my opinion. bitcoin will remain and continue to grow even without ETFs. ETF is the latest innovation with the aim of giving options to investors so that more variety of assets can be traded. so, ETF will not affect bitcoin because bitcoin has existed for a long time in the stock market and has been able to survive until now.
I agree. Without anything bitcoin survive for existence and developing well. Also not only ETF is the competitor of bitcoin now but many more in the market. Many things to compare but still bitcoin will remain on its place where it be. ETF could not affect bitcoin because it stand without ETF for a long time in the market. You should not be affect for not having ETF, mind the most potential coin.
copper member
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October 06, 2018, 01:49:35 AM
i can only say that a disapproval from ETF will only shake bitcoin and cryptocurrency generally because its going to create a very strong FUD which will make people to panic sell. but after a while, it will pick up gradually as this might take a while. 
sr. member
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October 06, 2018, 01:36:05 AM
in a state of bitcoin market that is down, without the bitcoin ETF it will be difficult to reach the highest price. Because of what? the price of bitcoin which is now included in the expensive category, and added to the market down, and there is no guarantee that it will rise in the near or long time, so that people will hesitate. with the existence of ETFs, people can invest in bitcoin with these facilities that allow them to get loans on the bitcoin exchange.
full member
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October 06, 2018, 01:25:52 AM
bitcoin will still be bitcoin with or without etf . if you are worrying about the price , then worry no more .the price isnt only dependent on the etf or any other organizations because the price of bitcoin and any other cryptos are only based on the people , most especially from the whales because whales are more powerful than any other average joe .

speaking of etf , why this issue hasnt been resovled yet ? if im not mistaken its been already a year ever since i first see an etf disccusion but until now , people are still debating about it. hmmm Huh
sr. member
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October 06, 2018, 12:46:37 AM
In my opinion. bitcoin will remain and continue to grow even without ETFs. ETF is the latest innovation with the aim of giving options to investors so that more variety of assets can be traded. so, ETF will not affect bitcoin because bitcoin has existed for a long time in the stock market and has been able to survive until now.
newbie
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October 06, 2018, 12:21:43 AM
I think that if bitcoin without ETF might be a bad impact on bitcoin itself because ETFs are the most important part that has been integrated into bitcoin and hope that bitcoin will be even more popular if there is an ETF
jr. member
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October 05, 2018, 09:04:33 PM
I think ETF debate has been one of the things that has prevented price from rallying this year, wants to drag us back into the "Trust Government" mess.
newbie
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October 05, 2018, 08:49:50 PM
Bitcoin hit a high even before the ETF was discussed. The value was there and it is being used regardless what a government says about it and for the states to be the decisive factor .. they can shove it. up their ass. The approval of ETFs for bitcoin is an important step towards accepting this investment by qualified and institutional investors. Furthermore, the important reason that the SEC does not accept Bitcoin ETFs is the bitcoin market does not have the structural and control protection needed to support ETF products. Of course, Bitcoins do not require ETFs. And I think there will be more parties involved if the SEC actually approves Bitcoin. Bitcoin will be a complete tool in the hands of super-rich people and they have a way to turn things just for their benefit.
sr. member
Activity: 569
Merit: 250
October 02, 2018, 12:11:46 AM
I don't think bitcoin will fail just because the ETF does not accept the proposal. So far bitcoin has grown rapidly without depending on the ETF, and see other currencies shaded by ETFs, is their growth as good as bitcoin? so bitcoin has proven that he can grow on his own and people believe in bitcoin without ETFs
bitcoin dies without etf it's just speculation of irresponsible people who just want to drop bitcoin
full member
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October 02, 2018, 12:07:21 AM
NOTE : Questions from LAYMEN.

bitcoin is made without regulations, is decentralized, and controls everyone who has bitcoin. and in my opinion ETF is a rule that must be passed by Bitcoin. so will Bitcoin fail or die if the ETF disapproves of the bitcoin proposal? while Bitcoin has grown longer before going to ETF.

After how many times of denials from ETF board so what for the bitcoins?

I am also not into ETF instead i wanted this to be stopped so we can move on and forget about thies expectations,since this only made the market breaks as many are converting their altcoins tl bitcoin for the chance of gaining good after approval
newbie
Activity: 9
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October 01, 2018, 11:35:25 PM
I see nothing really special about the ETF and the SEC regulating one thing. Must pass without affecting financial freedom until it is fully applied.
jr. member
Activity: 112
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September 29, 2018, 02:11:14 PM
SEC's failure to approve Bitcoin ETF may prove to be more beneficial for Bitcoin. Cryptocurrency has gained the trust of many people, regardless of whether they are part of the Bitcoin community or not. This will help Bitcoin to expand the community and emerge stronger than before. Finally, it will also affect regulatory agencies in approving the use of Bitcoin like other currencies.
full member
Activity: 490
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September 29, 2018, 01:35:16 PM
It seems that ETF FUD has finally being to fade.
I belive that there is n ot much volue in ETF , the only thing that it would do would make a new wave of FUD and psuh the price up aldo it is unlikely that we will see BTC ETF approved soon because of  the reasoning of first rejections , that being BTC price manipulation untill BTC exchnage process wont be regualted more strictly globally,there will be no ETF.
member
Activity: 171
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September 29, 2018, 01:00:11 PM
I have only one question. As you know last year bitcoin was able to reach almost $20000 without any ETF. So what has changed? Why do people think now only ETF approval can support the price rise?
member
Activity: 378
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September 28, 2018, 12:39:48 PM
The pricing of bitcoin around the world is quite threatening to the fiat or local currencies of many nations. So, ETF or no ETF is just to cajole the whole process. Bitcoin and other altcoins trades more than the fiat  currencies around the world. Bitcoin is not a child's play, real men and businesses work on this platform and its more securing and assuring.
full member
Activity: 392
Merit: 101
September 28, 2018, 11:00:50 AM
The ETF without bitcoin is not good, because ETF will approved the bitcoin proposal because of that everything will be alright and in the good condition. ETF had a big impact in bitcoin when they will not agree to the proposal bitcoin holders are very afraid that it isn't approved so I hope that bitcoin will approved every proposal.
newbie
Activity: 84
Merit: 0
August 20, 2018, 10:13:36 PM
Bitcoin has existed while non gave it a credence, now that it has received momentum and recognition, and have visible massive support with billions of bucks been invested in it, both ETF gets approve or not, bitcoin will stay sturdy and pass on. but forces are going to push on until ETF get onboard.
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