Bitcoin100: 2.012 BTC for Ron Paul 2012

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Quote from: Bitcoin 100 on December 22, 2011, 03:13:05 PM

Quote from: Elwar on December 22, 2011, 03:02:11 PM

We tried to hash out how to get Ron Paul to accept Bitcoins a while back and came to the conclusion that the possibility of some foreigner donating a buttload to a US campaign is just too simple with Bitcoin since you have no idea of who the donor is.

Even donating directly to RevPAC would require some proof that you are not a foreigner.

WOW! I didn't know that! Not a single politician, in the entire history of the US, has ever received donations by a foreign influence.

Not quite, there were plenty of contributions from extremely wealthy donors. The usual problem; bitcoin would allow this power in the hands of the many.

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Quote from: Elwar on December 22, 2011, 03:02:11 PM

We tried to hash out how to get Ron Paul to accept Bitcoins a while back and came to the conclusion that the possibility of some foreigner donating a buttload to a US campaign is just too simple with Bitcoin since you have no idea of who the donor is.

Even donating directly to RevPAC would require some proof that you are not a foreigner.

WOW! I didn't know that! Not a single politician, in the entire history of the US, has ever received donations by a foreign influence.

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We tried to hash out how to get Ron Paul to accept Bitcoins a while back and came to the conclusion that the possibility of some foreigner donating a buttload to a US campaign is just too simple with Bitcoin since you have no idea of who the donor is.

Even donating directly to RevPAC would require some proof that you are not a foreigner.

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Quote from: Rassah on December 20, 2011, 11:26:50 PM

I can return the money already in the wallet. Just give me an address to send to

If nobody wants to take this over to support Ron Paul, the two donations within will be moved to Bitcoin100, already having the blessing of those two contributors.

One last request: Anybody want to take over this noble project?

~Bruno~

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I can return the money already in the wallet. Just give me an address to send to

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Bitcoin: An Idea Worth Spending

Is anybody interested in taking over this idea? I can easily have the wallet transferred over to whoever wants to run with this. I desire to spend all my extra energy on Bitcoin100. I, personally, will support whoever takes this over with what ever I can provide.

~Bruno~

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i just read up on the guy. he thinks every man should be as free as possible, especially in regard to how much firepower he can hoard. women however are free to give birth and stfu. its really a pity i cant vote for him Grin

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Quote from: Rassah on December 20, 2011, 09:08:49 AM

I'm guessing you guys don't watch Colbert Report. He went through the entire process of getting a PAC and Super PAC on his show. Requires filing forms with government and waiting for approval. Might need a lawyer to draw up the documents too.

I did watch that video last night while doing my research. In fact, it was that video that got me heading in the right direction. Amazing the nuggets one can find hidden within humorous commentary.

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Quote from: Rassah on December 20, 2011, 09:08:49 AM

I'm guessing you guys don't watch Colbert Report. He went through the entire process of getting a PAC and Super PAC on his show. Requires filing forms with government and waiting for approval. Might need a lawyer to draw up the documents too.

... and be approved by the federal elections commission. This is a large, expensive ordeal. You will need lawyers and tens, if not hundreds, of thousands of dollars.

IMO, donating to an existing Super PAC is more in line with the scope of this project. If you can get revolution PAC to accept bitcoin, I'll send a few their way (and fill out any personal information they are legally required to collect).

Quote from: sadpandatech on December 20, 2011, 09:31:44 AM

+1 for encouraging Revolution Pac to accept Bitcoins.

Now where getting somewhere. See! There's always a solution.

~Bruno~

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+1 for encouraging Revolution Pac to accept Bitcoins.

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Quote from: Rassah on December 20, 2011, 09:08:49 AM

I'm guessing you guys don't watch Colbert Report. He went through the entire process of getting a PAC and Super PAC on his show. Requires filing forms with government and waiting for approval. Might need a lawyer to draw up the documents too.

... and be approved by the federal elections commission. This is a large, expensive ordeal. You will need lawyers and tens, if not hundreds, of thousands of dollars.

IMO, donating to an existing Super PAC is more in line with the scope of this project. If you can get revolution PAC to accept bitcoin, I'll send a few their way (and fill out any personal information they are legally required to collect).

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I'm guessing you guys don't watch Colbert Report. He went through the entire process of getting a PAC and Super PAC on his show. Requires filing forms with government and waiting for approval. Might need a lawyer to draw up the documents too.

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I just found this:

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"It would be perfectly legal for Mitt Romney to show up at a Restore Our Future fundraiser and have the director of the super PAC take the stage, introduce Romney and then solicit money from the crowd for unlimited donations [before Romney took the stage]," Ryan said.

Source: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/10/super-pac-independence-stephen-colbert-karl-rove-fec_n_1086273.html

And this:

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But it marks one more step removing the illusion of "independence" surrounding super PACs, which are proliferating this year because of their ability to collect unlimited amounts of money from corporations and wealthy donors….

Source: http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/08/17/7399074-super-pacs-independent-in-name-only

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Unfortunately, PayPal contributes in increments of $1000.

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Quote from: Jeremy West spendbitcoins.com on December 20, 2011, 01:37:01 AM

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Quote from: epetroel on December 19, 2011, 09:35:55 PM

The ruling I'm thinking of is Citizens United:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens_United_v._Federal_Election_Commission

Thanks. I read it all. It wasn't till the very bottom that I found what I was looking for, which then led me down a proper path. The keyphrase I eventual found was Super Pac. It now looks like there's a way around this issue. Creating a semantic spin now becomes the hard part, whereas before I thought it wouldn't be that difficult. The following links to websites and videos should help everybody get up to speed if they weren't aware of this prior, as I wasn't.

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/08/17/7399074-super-pacs-independent-in-name-only

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-MHJD4NmFY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ef61cWDbuP8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3xnbpt12eo

http://www.revolutionpac.com/

Without much time to look over it, my first impression is that I like Revolution PAC. Only thing is, that's where I copied and pasted the disclaimer from that I quoted above. Sad

http://www.revolutionpac.com/donate/

Boy, I'm having trouble wrapping my head around this. A Super Pac can collect millions from different sources to influences a candidate, but that same Pac can't accept money from a group of people. But if we were a Bitcoin Pac for John Doe running for office, we can collect millions from other Bitcoiners, but couldn't accept money from Uncle Bob because the lump sum he wants to donate came from Aunt Jean and his 5 cousins. How close am I?

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Quote from: Bitcoin 100 on December 20, 2011, 01:30:12 AM

Quote from: epetroel on December 19, 2011, 09:35:55 PM

The ruling I'm thinking of is Citizens United:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens_United_v._Federal_Election_Commission

Thanks. I read it all. It wasn't till the very bottom that I found what I was looking for, which then led me down a proper path. The keyphrase I eventual found was Super Pac. It now looks like there's a way around this issue. Creating a semantic spin now becomes the hard part, whereas before I thought it wouldn't be that difficult. The following links to websites and videos should help everybody get up to speed if they weren't aware of this prior, as I wasn't.

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/08/17/7399074-super-pacs-independent-in-name-only

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-MHJD4NmFY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ef61cWDbuP8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3xnbpt12eo

http://www.revolutionpac.com/

Without much time to look over it, my first impression is that I like Revolution PAC. Only thing is, that's where I copied and pasted the disclaimer from that I quoted above. Sad

http://www.revolutionpac.com/donate/

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Quote from: epetroel on December 19, 2011, 09:35:55 PM

The ruling I'm thinking of is Citizens United:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens_United_v._Federal_Election_Commission

Thanks. I read it all. It wasn't till the very bottom that I found what I was looking for, which then led me down a proper path. The keyphrase I eventual found was Super Pac. It now looks like there's a way around this issue. Creating a semantic spin now becomes the hard part, whereas before I thought it wouldn't be that difficult. The following links to websites and videos should help everybody get up to speed if they weren't aware of this prior, as I wasn't.

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/08/17/7399074-super-pacs-independent-in-name-only

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-MHJD4NmFY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ef61cWDbuP8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3xnbpt12eo

http://www.revolutionpac.com/

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The ruling I'm thinking of is Citizens United:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens_United_v._Federal_Election_Commission

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Quote from: epetroel on December 19, 2011, 08:59:22 PM

I thought the latest ruling on campaign donations said that this kind of thing was OK (unlimited donations from groups and not having to reveal the members). Or maybe that was just for PACs? If it turns out to be impossible though, just throw my 2.012 into the Bitcoin 100 pool

I just sent you a PM. I am highly interested in reading about that ruling. Anybody have a link?

~Bruno~

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I thought the latest ruling on campaign donations said that this kind of thing was OK (unlimited donations from groups and not having to reveal the members). Or maybe that was just for PACs? If it turns out to be impossible though, just throw my 2.012 into the Bitcoin 100 pool

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Quote from: epetroel on December 19, 2011, 01:34:25 PM

I'm not a rabid Ron Paul fan, but I do like him better than most. Sent my 2.012

I need to know if this is a dead issue so that this thread can be locked and epetroel shall have his 2.012 BTC returned from my account. The 4.024 BTC that currently rests in the wallet, mine and epetroel's donations, will then be donated to Bitcoin100 of which will never attach themselves to any nonprofit agency that favors a political stance. If you ask me, that was a relative cheap learning curve, one major take away from this brief episode.

~Bruno~

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