Bitcoin100: 2.012 BTC for Ron Paul 2012 - page 2.

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Quote from: Jeremy West spendbitcoins.com on December 19, 2011, 06:59:43 PM

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Quote from: Rassah on December 19, 2011, 04:12:23 PM

I seriously doubt the total collected amount will be more than $2000, so it can just be donated from a single person who is willing to identify themselves

Yes, but as whoever makes the donation has to state that they are not making the donation ok anyone else's behalf this kills the publicity stunt Bruno is going for.

All valid points. I'm all for proceeding with this without having Bitcoin100 involved. What's important here is doing it properly, where at the end of the day Bitcoin is clearly recognized as the contributor.

I quoted your post, Jeremy, but after reading it a couple times, I continue to trip over what you're trying to express. Please except my apology for asking you to restate it. I feel your making an important point, but I'm having trouble pulling it out. Thank you, bud.

~Bruno~

I see the misunderstanding here. Should read "not making the donation ON anyone else's behalf. I swyped it on my android phone and didn't proofread before posting. Sorry!

WOW! Glad I asked for clarification. I just Googled my ass off trying to find a loophole, and believe now that there isn't one. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

Also, don't add funds to the wallet unless this important issue is resolved.

Feedback from users who are well versed on political contributions is deeply needed here

Thank you.

~Bruno~

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Quote from: Bitcoin 100 on December 19, 2011, 06:44:15 PM

Quote from: Jeremy West spendbitcoins.com on December 19, 2011, 05:36:57 PM

Quote from: Rassah on December 19, 2011, 04:12:23 PM

I seriously doubt the total collected amount will be more than $2000, so it can just be donated from a single person who is willing to identify themselves

Yes, but as whoever makes the donation has to state that they are not making the donation ok anyone else's behalf this kills the publicity stunt Bruno is going for.

All valid points. I'm all for proceeding with this without having Bitcoin100 involved. What's important here is doing it properly, where at the end of the day Bitcoin is clearly recognized as the contributor.

I quoted your post, Jeremy, but after reading it a couple times, I continue to trip over what you're trying to express. Please except my apology for asking you to restate it. I feel your making an important point, but I'm having trouble pulling it out. Thank you, bud.

~Bruno~

I see the misunderstanding here. Should read "not making the donation ON anyone else's behalf. I swyped it on my android phone and didn't proofread before posting. Sorry!

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The Federal Election Commission requires that all of these statements are true for anyone contributing to the campaign:
- I am a US Citizen or Permanent Resident
- I am donating my own money
- I am not under contract to the Federal Government
- I am not making this contribution in the name of another person
- I am 18 years of age or older

Hi Bruno.

I'm referring to the above, specifically where it says 'I'm donating my own money' and 'I am not making this contribution in the name of another person'.

To be honest, I don't give a damn about words politicians put on paper (commonly referred to as 'laws'. The only 'law' I care about is natural law - "Do not harm other people"), but we will not be able to proclaim this donation as a bitcoin donation from several people because according to the above 'law' a donor must declare that he/she is donating his/her own money and not making the donation in the name of another person.

I hope this makes sense.

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Quote from: Jeremy West spendbitcoins.com on December 19, 2011, 05:36:57 PM

Quote from: Rassah on December 19, 2011, 04:12:23 PM

I seriously doubt the total collected amount will be more than $2000, so it can just be donated from a single person who is willing to identify themselves

Yes, but as whoever makes the donation has to state that they are not making the donation ok anyone else's behalf this kills the publicity stunt Bruno is going for.

All valid points. I'm all for proceeding with this without having Bitcoin100 involved. What's important here is doing it properly, where at the end of the day Bitcoin is clearly recognized as the contributor.

I quoted your post, Jeremy, but after reading it a couple times, I continue to trip over what you're trying to express. Please except my apology for asking you to restate it. I feel your making an important point, but I'm having trouble pulling it out. Thank you, bud.

~Bruno~

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Quote from: Rassah on December 19, 2011, 04:12:23 PM

I seriously doubt the total collected amount will be more than $2000, so it can just be donated from a single person who is willing to identify themselves

Yes, but as whoever makes the donation has to state that they are not making the donation ok anyone else's behalf this kills the publicity stunt Bruno is going for.

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I seriously doubt the total collected amount will be more than $2000, so it can just be donated from a single person who is willing to identify themselves

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Grrr.... Just looking at the PAC donation pages it appears even there you have to report who you are:

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The Federal Election Commission requires that all of these statements are true for anyone contributing to the campaign:
- I am a US Citizen or Permanent Resident
- I am donating my own money
- I am not under contract to the Federal Government
- I am not making this contribution in the name of another person
- I am 18 years of age or older

I'm not sure this can be done as a publicity stunt, unfortunately. Anyone else have any ideas to make this work?

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Quote from: Jeremy West spendbitcoins.com on December 19, 2011, 03:14:01 PM

Quote from: Rassah on December 19, 2011, 02:52:36 PM

Quote from: CoinLab on December 19, 2011, 02:38:45 PM

I don't think the "Bitcoin100" name should be associated with this, if you want it to be taken seriously as a charitable giver. Making Bitcoin100 political will hurt it's ability to approach charities.

By all means, organize a BTC for Ron Paul drive but I think you are mixing two distinct things together which shouldn't be mixed.

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The only other thing I worry about are the campaign finance laws which say a candidate has to report all donations and who they came from. Though obviously I love the idea.

I think we can make this work, albeit not with quite as much media impact as you want, Bruno.

Firstly, I agree, remove the association with the Bitcoin100. Secondly, to make this legal, instead of donating directly to the Ron Paul campaign we'd have to donate to a PAC, such as his Campaign for Liberty PAC. What do you think, Bruno?

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Quote from: Jeremy West spendbitcoins.com on December 19, 2011, 03:14:01 PM

Quote from: Rassah on December 19, 2011, 02:52:36 PM

Quote from: CoinLab on December 19, 2011, 02:38:45 PM

I don't think the "Bitcoin100" name should be associated with this, if you want it to be taken seriously as a charitable giver. Making Bitcoin100 political will hurt it's ability to approach charities.

By all means, organize a BTC for Ron Paul drive but I think you are mixing two distinct things together which shouldn't be mixed.

+1

+1

The only other thing I worry about are the campaign finance laws which say a candidate has to report all donations and who they came from. Though obviously I love the idea.

+1 for the comment about Bitcoin100

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Quote from: Rassah on December 19, 2011, 02:52:36 PM

Quote from: CoinLab on December 19, 2011, 02:38:45 PM

I don't think the "Bitcoin100" name should be associated with this, if you want it to be taken seriously as a charitable giver. Making Bitcoin100 political will hurt it's ability to approach charities.

By all means, organize a BTC for Ron Paul drive but I think you are mixing two distinct things together which shouldn't be mixed.

+1

+1

The only other thing I worry about are the campaign finance laws which say a candidate has to report all donations and who they came from. Though obviously I love the idea.

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Quote from: CoinLab on December 19, 2011, 02:38:45 PM

I don't think the "Bitcoin100" name should be associated with this, if you want it to be taken seriously as a charitable giver. Making Bitcoin100 political will hurt it's ability to approach charities.

By all means, organize a BTC for Ron Paul drive but I think you are mixing two distinct things together which shouldn't be mixed.

+1

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I don't think the "Bitcoin100" name should be associated with this, if you want it to be taken seriously as a charitable giver. Making Bitcoin100 political will hurt it's ability to approach charities.

By all means, organize a BTC for Ron Paul drive but I think you are mixing two distinct things together which shouldn't be mixed.

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Quote from: epetroel on December 19, 2011, 01:34:25 PM

I'm not a rabid Ron Paul fan, but I do like him better than most. Sent my 2.012

Great, epetroel! The train is beginning to roll on the track I provided.

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I'm not a rabid Ron Paul fan, but I do like him better than most. Sent my 2.012

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Quote from: jake262144 on December 19, 2011, 01:05:19 PM

Alienate Bitcoin100 supporters? Not happening man.
That's why I said "I'll pass this one" instead of "Get me outta here" ^^

Rassah, I read the other thread and you seem to be doing one hell of a job. Big thumbs up.

I did read into that, between the lines, but I wanted to make doubly sure. Thank you, Jake.

Quote from: gnar1ta$ on December 19, 2011, 01:10:01 PM

I think this would be much more effective, in terms of Bitocin publicity, if the funds were given in bitcoins only - preferable to an address published by his campaign. Especially since he publically pushes alternate currencies and has sponsored competing currencies legislation.

I totally agree, but fully knowing that second best may be the result, I was hoping that a semantic spin after the fact would work just as well. A little contrivance could go a long way.

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Quote from: Rassah on December 19, 2011, 12:55:03 PM

I would just like to stress, again, that I have nothing to do with Bruno. He recruited me for managing accounts, and has been working my ass off ever since. All I'm doing is holding the money and freaking out about risks of losing it, since I worry about losing other peoples' money way more than my own.

Damn! I meant to thank Rassah for hashing the vanity address. Thank you, Rassah, for all the hard work you'll put into creating and maintaining the wallets. No need to freak out so much about losing any money, for it's only money. I'll replace any funds that turn up missing, provided they weren't used to purchase another coffee table. As far as this current wallet is concerned, we can have Jeremy West have control of it, if there's no objections. The only reason I won't is because I want to have that layer of trust, so to speak, built in with this project, as I do with Bitcoin100. It may have proved more difficult to get off the ground if the same person who created that noble endeavor, also collected the money, especially if it's in Bitcoin.

~Bruno~

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I think this would be much more effective, in terms of Bitocin publicity, if the funds were given in bitcoins only - preferable to an address published by his campaign. Especially since he publically pushes alternate currencies and has sponsored competing currencies legislation.

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Alienate Bitcoin100 supporters? Not happening man.
That's why I said "I'll pass this one" instead of "Get me outta here" ^^

Rassah, I read the other thread and you seem to be doing one hell of a job. Big thumbs up.

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Quote from: jake262144 on December 19, 2011, 12:51:23 PM

Not really my cup of tea. Campaign donations just ain't what I signed up for.
Sorry, Bruno, I think I'll pass this one.

Remember, this is not directly related to what Bitcoin100 has in stored. By no means do we want to alienate supporters of Bitcoin100 because of this endeavor, although a roll may be played, or credit taken, when it has reached fruition.

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