Topic: Bitcoin7 a new exchange (Read 20834 times)

I know, I just went with the default of the shared fees. I've made lots of payments from my Luxembourgish bank account to other accounts in Germany, France and Austria and I've never had to pay any fees.

I had to pay a currency transaction fee on my side (which is min. 7 € with my bank) and I made sure to enter all details correctly (as I would have to pay an additional fee for missing or wrong IBAN/BIC).

But since the Bitcoin7 website states that a "USD bank transfer to EU bank" is free, I was believing them.
Of course, if select the option of the OUR (all fees on my side), the beneficiary Bitcoin7 has no fees. But that option is an additional 20 € (minimum !) if I'm right.

In the mean time, Bitcoin7 did apologize for the extra fees, but it's still something I had to pay for ...

How did you transfer?

In Europe there a three methods of transfering money via bank wire:

- BEN (recipient pays all fees)
- OUR (sender pays all fees)
- SHARE (sender pays fees with his bank; recipient pays fees with his bank)

Maybe you should check on this.

AND B7 should make clear what type of bank wire you have to do (possibly an OUR wire) so that they don't apply fees AND post it on their site!

Last week I transfered about $1,000 to Bitcoin7 account but was surprised that after 3-4 days, a smaller amount was added to my Bitcoin7 account. I contacted them a few times, and at the end they said that there was a fee of $11,00 that I had to pay, so that amount was deducted from the amount I transfered.
The Bitcoin7 website states that the transfer from "USD bank transfer to EU bank" and "EUR bank transfer to EU bank" is free.

I know that Bulgaria has a rather big SWIFT fee for transfers to outside of the country (when withdrawing money from Bitcoin7).

But since their website says that adding money (via bank transfer to their EU bank account) is free, I wasn't expecting a fee.
But in my case, they added a $11,00 fee. 

Has anybody else had this problem (or noticed this) before ?

dear Jered Spammer, stop posting your crap numerous times in numerous threads

after that http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=17829.msg229909#msg229909

all your copywrite claims look pathetic

Dear Jared,

I completely understand that you're pissed that B7 has copied your texts!
I also understand that you want the situation remedied BUT you are complaining that B7 is using their time to promote themselves rather than to fix this problem AND you are doing the exact same thing at the same time:

Bruce is advocating your services for nearly two weeks know, 3 times a day on the Bitcoin show and how easy it is to get money in and out of Trade Hill and that you're offering you services for oh so many currencies when in fact you're only handling USD, CLP and PEN. Sorry, but weak! While this is not being fixed you guys had several interviews on the show for promotion.

Don't get me wrong I am not really satisfied with any of the exchanges because all have their weaknesses and cons but I find it a too bad that instead of exchanges battling each other in the forum they don't use their time and energy to improve their own sites so the market will shift to best competitor (or split regarding to the particular needs of groups of customers).

Just a thought...


PS: EUR-Transactions: To tell Europeans they should convert their funds into USD and then bank wire them to you means effectively that you DO NOT accept EUR! BTW this costs horrendous bank fees in the EU.

Dear Bitcion7,

As many people have already noticed, your firm has admittedly plagiarized the text (and more) from Tradehill's website.

We pointed this out in the above posts and asked you to change the text several times. You have been apologetic and explanatory but have not remedied the situation. It has been two weeks since we've made multiple requests and less then 1% of the text has been changed. We understand it takes time to change a site but you have not taken any steps yet. Additionally, you've made plenty of time for marketing your company via lengthy forum posts and updates.   

It is also very coincidental that your site came on-line 4 days after ours, with the exact same text, same layout, same features (like instant buy/sell), offering referral codes.  We have spent time and resources on developing our own website and ideas – please respect our intellectual property and remove the text immediately.

The text on Tradehill's website under “Introduction”, “Add Funds”, “Withdraw Funds”, “Support”, “Deposit Funds” and more, has been directly plagiarized by Bitcoin7 under – coincidentally – the exact same titles of “Introduction”, “Add Funds”, “Withdraw Funds”, “Support”, “Deposit Funds”.

See below - just some - of the exact plagiarisms which currently remain (at least up until the dating of this post).



TRADEHILL:

Under “Legal” and “Terms of Use”

Proprietary Rights
All contents of the TradeHill website, including, but not limited to, text, names, data, logos, buttons, icons, code, methods, techniques, models, graphics and the underlying software (the “Components”), are proprietary of TradeHill and are protected by the patent, copyright, trademark and trade laws of Chile and/or other countries. Nothing contained in this website shall be used in any form unless expressly stated by TradeHill.

https://www.tradehill.com/Support/Legal

BITCOIN7:

Proprietary Rights
All contents of the Bitcoin7 website, including, but not limited to, text, names, data, logos, buttons, icons, code, methods, techniques, models, graphics and the underlying software (the "Components"), are proprietary of Bitcoin7 and are protected by the patent, copyright, trademark and trade laws of Bulgaria and/or other countries. Nothing contained in this website shall be used in any form unless expressly stated by Bitcoin7.




TRADEHILL:

Under “Legal” and “Terms of Use”

Changes to Website
TradeHill will always attempt to keep its users informed of any changes to the website. However, TradeHill may terminate, change, suspend or discontinue any aspect of this website, including the availability of features of the site, at any time. TradeHill may also impose limits on certain features and services or restrict your access to part or the entire website without prior notice or liability.

https://www.tradehill.com/Support/Legal

BITCOIN7:

Under “Legal” and “Terms of Use”


Changes to Website
Bitcoin7 will always attempt to keep its users informed of any changes to the website. However, Bitcoin7 may terminate, change, suspend or discontinue any aspect of this website, including the availability of features of the site, at any time. Bitcoin7 may also impose limits on certain features and services or restrict your access to part or the entire website without prior notice or liability.

Translation attempt...

I am on the 7th pages ,Bitcoin7 - This is the 7th page of this Bitcoin7.com thread

Already registered - people who have already registered

when for the feedback of other users - only interested in the feedback of other users

Hmm.... could it be... fekk off anyone who isn't actually using Bitcoin7 ??

Okay, I'll fekk off

Sorry, but is this sentence encrypted ?

I am on the 7th pages ,bitcoin7.com .Already registered ,when for the feedback of other users.

Fixed that for you

Thanks.

I'm a dummy.  Well, mostly a dummy. I blame firefox.

You see, the "label" for the receive address is called "address" and firefox pre-populates all fields labeled "address" with my email address associated with a domain root name.  Sigh.

I didn't think anything of it. It says Address. In my humble opinion, to avoid other dummies like me from getting confuzzled, the html should be changed to call it "Your Bitcoin Address" (like the software does), and the label too.

I see they don't have the for="" filled out. Tsk tsk.


valid html should be the following....

https://bitcoin7.com/index.php?show=withdraw_bitcoins

I can't seem to find a place to input my btc address. I deposited money with Dwolla, I made a buy, now I wanna remove the BTC but I can't. There's no place for me to put my address.  (unless I'm blind to it)

How did you do it duffy?

I don't think opening an account in a bankrupt country is a good idea in this very moment...

They simply need to open an account in one of the Euro participating countries.
For example in Greece - it's only about 300 km south of Sofia.
Then the problem should be solved. They really should know that (high fee) is a complete no-go within the EU!

Ok, thanks.
But there's no way I can read this, and I don't want to copy the text over to translate it. So there actually is a 10 € SWIFT fee (+ additional fee depending on the amount) for bank transfers out of Bulgaria ?

A European Bitcoin exchange with a EU bank account is a great alternative to TradeHill and Mt. Gox for the European traders ... but that fee makes the smaller trades and withdraws really expensive 

http://fibank.bg/uploads/Docs_download/Tariff.pdf

on page 60

I was about to buy some cheap coins from here so I transferred money from my LR account. Almost 3 hours later all the cheap coins are sold and I still can't see my funds. Great.  

...and as usual, no response from customer service even though I sent an email over an hour ago. How this reminds me of MtGox. Yeah, maybe I'm being unpatient but it still pisses me off that estimates are always incorrect in a negative way.

Bitcoin is nice, but Dwolla and Liberty Reserve withdrawals don't work ("delayed"  ) for a while now...

On a seperate note - every EU country/EU bank has to offer SEPA for the same price as transfers within the country. Hence, I kind of doubt that Bulgaria takes a tax on that? Might be the case, of course, but that this should not only be for SEPA but also for Bulgarian internal transfers.