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November 06, 2024, 05:49:30 AM
#76
I think small countries will give the big ones an example to follow - of course, not at the full extent, but the carcass of what to do would be there - and maybe the small countries will benefit from it in the long run. At least I hope so.

Politicians will use crypto as a lever more and more, as BTC and the crypto space will have more power in a financial sense and the potential of it will be realised more and more.
That's my view on it, and I don't think that would be the last time a politician or a group of them would use such rhetoric.


I don't know what you're trying to achieve with all those alt accounts spamming the Bitcoin discussion - but when you're already spamming, then at least do it without unnecessary quotes - you're becoming irritating beyond measure.
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November 05, 2024, 09:56:48 AM
#75
I don't see any of this being true, it even sound unrealistic to me. Campaigning to be elected as a Bitcoin maxi doesn't make her a bitcoin maxi. I just see it as a way of deceptively leuring people to vote for her. I see that the new system of politics now is to use bitcoin for campaigning perhaps after they are being elected they abandoned bitcoin. Just like Trump promise to make bitcoin a top priority but after elected he abandoned bitcoin and now coming for the second tenure looking for who to fool again. I think everyone is wise now, anyone who is voting a person is doing it out of free will and not for promoting bitcoin. Because if you elect anybody for the sake of bitcoin you may be disappointed.
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November 05, 2024, 07:33:10 AM
#74
I'm not surprised of hearing this from this thread, because I know that a time will come Bitcoiners will be heading a good position in the government offices which we have seen many Bitcoiners in different government offices, it will be possible for Bitcoiners to become a president in a nation. I think, Trump is trying to use the influence of Bitcoiners to win the U.S election to become the president and he is leading already in that election that started few weeks ago, because he promised Bitcoiners a lot of things which he will bring them to pass once he resume office. If there are population of Bitcoiners in the land of Suriname, I think he or she will going to win the election to become the president of that nation, because Bitcoiners prefer to support their candidate in any election or event, because they know that they are going to benefit from the candidate government.
Politicians all act alike irrespective of which political party's or government position that they are occupying. MAYA PARBHOE, who is the candidate that promises the impossible if elected as the Suriname President, might not be able to get enough support from his people; it might be a different case from that of Trump. 
 
You can't promise to replace an existing currency with Bitcoin. It's possible to make Bitcoin a legal tender if she is in power, but those are just words of politicians and should not be taken very seriously. Every Bitcoinner knows that Bitcoin is to serve as an alternative currency and not to stand alone as a country's only recognised currency. Its limitations won't allow that to be successful unless she wants to bring the country to the ground during her first term.
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November 05, 2024, 06:47:47 AM
#73
I don't know who has honest intentions in politics but it's clear that too many intentions are fake and said for the sake of getting votes but I still don't understand why populism works, it's fake after all. The fact that Trump was unaware how to pay with Bitcoins proves that his statement is fake but even if his intentions are true, this man wants to destroy Bitcoin and decentralization by trying to make the rest of the Bitcoin mined in the USA.
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Populism works because people simply like to hear someone promise them the things they want, no matter how unrealistic such things are. Politicians, on the other hand, work for their own interests and for the interests of those who financed their election campaigns - and the little time they have left after that, they also work for the people who voted for them. Unfortunately, I would say that they not spend more than 20% of their time on ordinary people.

It's not even a problem for me that Trump doesn't know how to pay with BTC or, better said, pick up a smartphone and scan a QR code - but that the people around him (and he has a bunch of advisors) don't instruct him a little better in the matter he's talking about publicly. If you are already targeting certain voters, then at least make sure that you are credible in what you say, because not everyone is so empty-headed that they cannot see that the man is promising nonsense.

However, he or someone else cannot destroy decentralization the way he talks about it - the US is still only a part of the global network, regardless of the fact that a large part of the hash power is currently located in that country.

Politicians will use crypto as a lever more and more, as BTC and the crypto space will have more power in a financial sense and the potential of it will be realised more and more.
That's my view on it, and I don't think that would be the last time a politician or a group of them would use such rhetoric.
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November 05, 2024, 06:45:53 AM
#72
I can't tell if there is a difference between Trump and Maya in terms of whether they are playing the same game to win votes - but it seems to me that she knows a lot more than him when it comes to Bitcoin and probably has more honest intentions than others. In the end, small countries (compared to the US) are the ones that will much sooner embrace BTC at the state level, because they obviously have nothing to lose and can take risks with something new.
I don't know who has honest intentions in politics but it's clear that too many intentions are fake and said for the sake of getting votes but I still don't understand why populism works, it's fake after all. The fact that Trump was unaware how to pay with Bitcoins proves that his statement is fake but even if his intentions are true, this man wants to destroy Bitcoin and decentralization by trying to make the rest of the Bitcoin mined in the USA.

Yes, small countries will embrace Bitcoin at the state level sooner compared to big countries because small countries doesn't have much to risk, especially poor countries. The USA can't risk something like that because it's an economic global superpower and any mistake can be a fatal mistake that will destroy the empire.

I think small countries will give the big ones an example to follow - of course, not at the full extent, but the carcass of what to do would be there - and maybe the small countries will benefit from it in the long run. At least I hope so.
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November 05, 2024, 06:23:51 AM
#71
I don't know who has honest intentions in politics but it's clear that too many intentions are fake and said for the sake of getting votes but I still don't understand why populism works, it's fake after all. The fact that Trump was unaware how to pay with Bitcoins proves that his statement is fake but even if his intentions are true, this man wants to destroy Bitcoin and decentralization by trying to make the rest of the Bitcoin mined in the USA.
~snip~


Populism works because people simply like to hear someone promise them the things they want, no matter how unrealistic such things are. Politicians, on the other hand, work for their own interests and for the interests of those who financed their election campaigns - and the little time they have left after that, they also work for the people who voted for them. Unfortunately, I would say that they not spend more than 20% of their time on ordinary people.

It's not even a problem for me that Trump doesn't know how to pay with BTC or, better said, pick up a smartphone and scan a QR code - but that the people around him (and he has a bunch of advisors) don't instruct him a little better in the matter he's talking about publicly. If you are already targeting certain voters, then at least make sure that you are credible in what you say, because not everyone is so empty-headed that they cannot see that the man is promising nonsense.

However, he or someone else cannot destroy decentralization the way he talks about it - the US is still only a part of the global network, regardless of the fact that a large part of the hash power is currently located in that country.
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November 04, 2024, 08:41:17 AM
#70
I don't know who has honest intentions in politics but it's clear that too many intentions are fake and said for the sake of getting votes but I still don't understand why populism works, it's fake after all. The fact that Trump was unaware how to pay with Bitcoins proves that his statement is fake but even if his intentions are true, this man wants to destroy Bitcoin and decentralization by trying to make the rest of the Bitcoin mined in the USA.

Maya has outlined specific actions he plans to take for the country if elected, and many of her policies are advantageous for the Bitcoin community. While it's uncertain whether these promises will come to fruition, that's why we're supporting this candidate, hoping she delivers on her commitments. As voters, we should critically evaluate their capabilities. When comparing Maya to Donald Trump, I believe Maya demonstrates a deeper understanding of Bitcoin than Trump does.

Yes, small countries will embrace Bitcoin at the state level sooner compared to big countries because small countries doesn't have much to risk, especially poor countries. The USA can't risk something like that because it's an economic global superpower and any mistake can be a fatal mistake that will destroy the empire.

Large countries dominate the global economy, making it essential for smaller nations to embrace Bitcoin as a decentralized alternative. This shift can lead to long-term benefits, similar to what we've seen in El Salvador and Bhutan with their mining revenues. However, adopting Bitcoin doesn't come without risks; effective risk management strategies must be established to ensure stability and success.
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November 04, 2024, 08:15:17 AM
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I can't tell if there is a difference between Trump and Maya in terms of whether they are playing the same game to win votes - but it seems to me that she knows a lot more than him when it comes to Bitcoin and probably has more honest intentions than others. In the end, small countries (compared to the US) are the ones that will much sooner embrace BTC at the state level, because they obviously have nothing to lose and can take risks with something new.
I don't know who has honest intentions in politics but it's clear that too many intentions are fake and said for the sake of getting votes but I still don't understand why populism works, it's fake after all. The fact that Trump was unaware how to pay with Bitcoins proves that his statement is fake but even if his intentions are true, this man wants to destroy Bitcoin and decentralization by trying to make the rest of the Bitcoin mined in the USA.

Yes, small countries will embrace Bitcoin at the state level sooner compared to big countries because small countries doesn't have much to risk, especially poor countries. The USA can't risk something like that because it's an economic global superpower and any mistake can be a fatal mistake that will destroy the empire.
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November 04, 2024, 07:16:57 AM
#68
As others mentioned, this seems like a trend and everyone is trying to use "Bitcoin Maxi" in their advantage by competing for the President or prime minister but do they even know how Bitcoin is actually mined? What's a hardware wallet? difference between self-custody and exchange? I don't think so.. Maybe we just need to look at the candidates without considering what they think about Bitcoin or Crypto.

 Your right However, in a real situation, if these aspirants actually got Bitcoin in mind and really mean business as they claimed, which is not just doing this in the aim to gaining more popularity and votes and to possibly win their election, even without them having to be this knowledgeable about Bitcoin, they can still appoint expertise in cryptocurrency field and well vast people in Bitcoin as their advisers or where necessary when they get into office and set policies that will make their country become a Bitcoin friendly nation and for every Bitcoin enthusiasts in that country.
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November 04, 2024, 06:35:05 AM
#67
I'm not surprised of hearing this from this thread, because I know that a time will come Bitcoiners will be heading a good position in the government offices which we have seen many Bitcoiners in different government offices, it will be possible for Bitcoiners to become a president in a nation. I think, Trump is trying to use the influence of Bitcoiners to win the U.S election to become the president and he is leading already in that election that started few weeks ago, because he promised Bitcoiners a lot of things which he will bring them to pass once he resume office. If there are population of Bitcoiners in the land of Suriname, I think he or she will going to win the election to become the president of that nation, because Bitcoiners prefer to support their candidate in any election or event, because they know that they are going to benefit from the candidate government.

I also see the cases for BTC and crypto in general to become a lever for not-so-good intentions from the politicians.. Alas, it's inevitable if crypto as a whole will evolve and be more mainstreamed and used.
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November 04, 2024, 05:10:46 AM
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There are only 2 Bitcoin Legal Tender countries now: El Salvador and Central African Republic.
https://coinmarketcap.com/legal-tender-countries/
https://newhedge.io/terminal/bitcoin/legality-map


The CAR abolished that law a long time ago, as well as if it ever meant anything considering (if I'm not mistaken) that 90% of their population is without the internet and Bitcoin as a legal tender would mean nothing for that country. To be honest, it doesn't mean too much even for El Salvador, considering that most people still prefer the USD, which has been the official currency in that country for over 20 years anyway.



Bitcoin was created in 2009 and somehow in 2024 they discovered that it's a freedom and democracy? The absolutely true answer is that it's a trend right now, you'll gain attention if you say word Bitcoin anywhere and every media will write articles and promote you, that's all, that's why they say that they are Bitcoin maxis. In reality, they have no idea what Bitcoin is and how it works, they have no idea what's Bitcoin Core, Blockchain, Mempool, Mining, etc. We saw the Trump, Bitcoin supporter, who had no idea how to pay with Bitcoin and others did a job for him.

I can't tell if there is a difference between Trump and Maya in terms of whether they are playing the same game to win votes - but it seems to me that she knows a lot more than him when it comes to Bitcoin and probably has more honest intentions than others. In the end, small countries (compared to the US) are the ones that will much sooner embrace BTC at the state level, because they obviously have nothing to lose and can take risks with something new.
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November 03, 2024, 11:07:07 PM
#65
I'm not surprised of hearing this from this thread, because I know that a time will come Bitcoiners will be heading a good position in the government offices which we have seen many Bitcoiners in different government offices, it will be possible for Bitcoiners to become a president in a nation. I think, Trump is trying to use the influence of Bitcoiners to win the U.S election to become the president and he is leading already in that election that started few weeks ago, because he promised Bitcoiners a lot of things which he will bring them to pass once he resume office. If there are population of Bitcoiners in the land of Suriname, I think he or she will going to win the election to become the president of that nation, because Bitcoiners prefer to support their candidate in any election or event, because they know that they are going to benefit from the candidate government.
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November 03, 2024, 10:26:02 PM
#64
Bitcoin was created in 2009 and somehow in 2024 they discovered that it's a freedom and democracy? The absolutely true answer is that it's a trend right now, you'll gain attention if you say word Bitcoin anywhere and every media will write articles and promote you, that's all, that's why they say that they are Bitcoin maxis. In reality, they have no idea what Bitcoin is and how it works, they have no idea what's Bitcoin Core, Blockchain, Mempool, Mining, etc. We saw the Trump, Bitcoin supporter, who had no idea how to pay with Bitcoin and others did a job for him.

We can conclude that Bitcoin experiences a moment that is progressing from the process so that people see this is a step of freedom that has never been found before.
Political figures try to demonstrate Bitcoin as a step to achieve their desires, regardless of the opposite side that will occur, but because Bitcoin has gained a place in each individual, their chances of speaking can smooth the big steps they want to achieve.
When talking Bitcoin they get a big response from the undercurrent because people think they also like freedom but the reality as you say and they mostly don't understand Bitcoin correctly.

But one positive thing with them tried to play the issue of Bitcoin because it would make several large groups more looking for Bitcoin.
Even though they themselves never know what Bitcoin is, blockchain or so forth.
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November 01, 2024, 03:45:56 PM
#63
Bitcoin was created in 2009 and somehow in 2024 they discovered that it's a freedom and democracy? The absolutely true answer is that it's a trend right now, you'll gain attention if you say word Bitcoin anywhere and every media will write articles and promote you, that's all, that's why they say that they are Bitcoin maxis. In reality, they have no idea what Bitcoin is and how it works, they have no idea what's Bitcoin Core, Blockchain, Mempool, Mining, etc. We saw the Trump, Bitcoin supporter, who had no idea how to pay with Bitcoin and others did a job for him.
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November 01, 2024, 03:12:50 PM
#62
This is a win win situation for Bitcoin and bitcoiners as this will literally mean more adoption and more relevance of the Bitcoin technology and we all know that more adoption would mean more increase in value for everyone who's a Bitcoiners and possibly more profits , for rhos in such countries it becomes easier for them to get adoptions and more official usage of Bitcoin in the country because it can get to the point it becomes a legal tender.

The first thing I will advise the candidate to do once he has the opportunity to become the president of the country is to establish new political and economic policies that will promote the use of cryptocurrencies within and outside the country. I will advise him strengthen collaborations with the Central Bank of Suriname (CBvS) to implement CBDC models which are supported by Bitcoin then build policies that will cement the Central Bank Digital Currency with cryptocurrencies to promote the digital assets.

I have been an advocate of introducing the study of Bitcoin technology in schools especially in our secondary schools to prepare students to the emerging decentralized financial system. I remembered during my secondary school days, we had entrepreneur courses we referred to as Trade Subject then. You have the option to select whichever course you have interest or background in then the course modules are designed to expose you to the fundamentals of the course.

I will also introduce boot camps and certificate programs to bolster the vocational and practical learning of these cryptocurrency technology through partnerships with international and domestic tech companies. I will also facilitate grants with those companies to provide assistance to those who are interested in exploring the blockchain knowledge and technology at the university level especially those who feel they have the skills and wish to make a living of them.
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November 01, 2024, 01:27:36 PM
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First and foremost, if you mean to say Trump is also a bitcoiner that runs for President, I don’t think he is. Maybe now he’s starting to become a bitcoiner just to show to the bitcoin community how supportive he is to bitcoin. But regardless if a candidate is a bitcoiner or not, he/she has all the right to aim for President as long as the qualifications are met.

Most people are sceptical about Donald Trump's support for Bitcoin. It is assumed by many that he is using it to gain attention from the crypto community to get votes and financial support. We will never know his intentions until he wins the elections.

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Now talking about Maya, I guess her real motive is not actually to lead the country, but more likely to push bitcoin to become a legal tender. And that’s actually a long process to make, and not actually sure if she’ll succeed knowing a centralized government will never allow a decentralized currency to become official currency of the country.

If Maya Parbhoe intention or motive is not to lead Suriname, then why is she contesting in the presidential election? She can only make Bitcoin a legal tender if she leads the country. If El Salvador can achieve it's goal of making Bitcoin a legal tender, Suriname can also do the same. They would just adopt thesame template from El Salvador and even improve on it.
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Honestly this is just a politicians trick and nothing more and I believe we are going to see this person fail as well. I am sure that we are going to see this changing for the long term and not going to end up with anything growing further neither. I believe she is just a trickster who is trying to gain some power and she realized she can't play the regular politicians game because if she did what everyone else did then nobody would know a thing about her at all, but if she goes with bitcoin then she is going to do better.

This is what we are seeing here, and that is why I believe we are going to see this changing for the better and she is going to lose in order to make people who are actual politicians realize how important bitcoin is and how much power it can bring for politicians and how much vote there is for bitcoin as well. For a zero person to get some votes thanks to bitcoin means someone who is not zero would gain a big advantage.
So basically its a win win game for BTC haha I mean if she win BTC adoption will increase and if she not wins the politicians will realized the mistake of not taking this step and once they will see the results and reactions of the citizens like how much they loved this motive then they will be running such campaigns in next elections too. You raised a good point.

Well, I also think she is doing it to make herself unique and with more advance idea and somehow people will remember her and she might even become famous get's some fundraising schemes Like she is doing now where that money will goes, obviously to help her campaign (IYK what I mean haha)

Anyway I don't judge her, I think the motive if is clean of any personal agenda then its a win for BTC otherwise its still a win if the oppositions are intellectual enough (sorry for bold wording).
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First a candidate must get a nominee for his or her party to run for a President position, then must win the election and become an Elected President of his or her country.

Without a political party a candidate cannot advance as a presidential candidate because there is a threshold that needs to be met.
That is a requirement given by the constitution as a step to advance as a presidential candidate and that is what I know because in our country in particular it has a system.

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Then that new President will need to get dominant support from parliamentarians to pass new laws, regulations on Bitcoin for making it legal or better legal tender. Things must be done step by step and very first steps to win the President Election is getting support from a party, citizens in the country. After becoming a new President, later steps can be done but surely none of these steps are easily achieved.
This will go against the previous system and he needs to take an approach when he wants to relieve bitcoin and of course big support is needed to smooth his steps.
With this consideration, sometimes it is necessary to see how his party controls parliament and makes changes to several regulations concerning the legalization of bitcoin tenders.
If he wins the election, then his steps need to be prepared and studied carefully so that no opposition can cause his program to fail and it may not be easy but it does not mean it is impossible.
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To control a smaller country should be easier and a bitcoiner running for president must have a strong community if he wants to win the competition.
But the steps he took were not easy because if he had to accept legal tender like El Salvador then he would have to be prepared to change some of the previous regulations.
First a candidate must get a nominee for his or her party to run for a President position, then must win the election and become an Elected President of his or her country.

Then that new President will need to get dominant support from parliamentarians to pass new laws, regulations on Bitcoin for making it legal or better legal tender. Things must be done step by step and very first steps to win the President Election is getting support from a party, citizens in the country. After becoming a new President, later steps can be done but surely none of these steps are easily achieved.

There are only 2 Bitcoin Legal Tender countries now: El Salvador and Central African Republic.
https://coinmarketcap.com/legal-tender-countries/
https://newhedge.io/terminal/bitcoin/legality-map
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Being a Bitcoiner then running for president is quite a good choice to make especially if the country have many Bitcoiners as well. As far as I can say, this is just a plan to gather lots of support since the candidate for president is a Bitcoiner and it's a win-win for maya and also to the other Bitcoiners in that country if she won. It could also be possible that suriname will be the next country that legalized Bitcoin or make Bitcoin a legal tender like El Salvador did.

To control a smaller country should be easier and a bitcoiner running for president must have a strong community if he wants to win the competition.
But the steps he took were not easy because if he had to accept legal tender like El Salvador then he would have to be prepared to change some of the previous regulations.
I don't know this country very well but the steps he took can be said to be very good and El Salvador has shown that something that is impossible is more possible.

It depends on how he plans and most importantly this is not just a promise when campaigning for power.
The steps need to be prepared carefully so that the country becomes the second El Salvador as Legal tender for bitcoin.
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