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Quote from: mirakal on October 28, 2024, 10:59:39 AM

First and foremost, if you mean to say Trump is also a bitcoiner that runs for President, I don’t think he is. Maybe now he’s starting to become a bitcoiner just to show to the bitcoin community how supportive he is to bitcoin.

I never said Trump is a bitcoiner, i know he is not and he is just using BTC to help his cause to be president, but either way it does not matter and it is even good publicity for the BTC network.

Quote from: mirakal on October 28, 2024, 10:59:39 AM

Now talking about Maya, I guess her real motive is not actually to lead the country, but more likely to push bitcoin to become a legal tender.

Now if we are to be honest, should that be the 'real motive' of someone contesting to be president, the affairs of the nation should come first before any other thing.

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Quote from: mirakal on October 28, 2024, 10:59:39 AM

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Quote from: magicmicks on October 22, 2024, 07:36:04 AM

What do you guys think of this trend of more Bitcoiners running for presidents in their country?

Can we call it a 'trend' yet, i don't think so; i am not talking about someone simply campaigning with BTC, but who cannot even use it, i mean real bitcoiners. Suriname is a very small country and i am sure a lot of us do not know much about what goes on there, but if this Maya is pro-BTC, then i wish her luck in what she is trying to achieve.

However, you must understand that the affairs of government is centralized, while BTC is decentralized, and so that is a reason why it is difficult to find governments that support BTC.

First and foremost, if you mean to say Trump is also a bitcoiner that runs for President, I don’t think he is. Maybe now he’s starting to become a bitcoiner just to show to the bitcoin community how supportive he is to bitcoin. But regardless if a candidate is a bitcoiner or not, he/she has all the right to aim for President as long as the qualifications are met.

Now talking about Maya, I guess her real motive is not actually to lead the country, but more likely to push bitcoin to become a legal tender. And that’s actually a long process to make, and not actually sure if she’ll succeed knowing a centralized government will never allow a decentralized currency to become official currency of the country.

Maybe so. If her goal is to make BTC legal tender, I think she needs to contact Bukele at least and chat about how he got Congress to agree. Suriname will be a country to remember when its added to the list of countries adopting BTC once she is successful.

I have watched several of her podcasts on some Bitcoin YouTube channels. She seems well-educated and this is a country a bit bigger than El Salvador. If she is just as popular as Bukele which I think she is, maybe she would win.

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Quote from: Z-tight on October 22, 2024, 08:11:43 AM

Quote from: magicmicks on October 22, 2024, 07:36:04 AM

What do you guys think of this trend of more Bitcoiners running for presidents in their country?

Can we call it a 'trend' yet, i don't think so; i am not talking about someone simply campaigning with BTC, but who cannot even use it, i mean real bitcoiners. Suriname is a very small country and i am sure a lot of us do not know much about what goes on there, but if this Maya is pro-BTC, then i wish her luck in what she is trying to achieve.

However, you must understand that the affairs of government is centralized, while BTC is decentralized, and so that is a reason why it is difficult to find governments that support BTC.

First and foremost, if you mean to say Trump is also a bitcoiner that runs for President, I don’t think he is. Maybe now he’s starting to become a bitcoiner just to show to the bitcoin community how supportive he is to bitcoin. But regardless if a candidate is a bitcoiner or not, he/she has all the right to aim for President as long as the qualifications are met.

Now talking about Maya, I guess her real motive is not actually to lead the country, but more likely to push bitcoin to become a legal tender. And that’s actually a long process to make, and not actually sure if she’ll succeed knowing a centralized government will never allow a decentralized currency to become official currency of the country.

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All countries of the world are centralized and controlled by any group or individual or government. Bitcoin is completely decentralized, no individual or country or government can control it. And for these reasons, the government of any country in the world cannot directly support Bitcoin. Again, the governments of all the countries of the world depend on their own financial policies. That is, the government of each country wants to control the economic decisions of their country. But for Bitcoin decentralization, no individual can control it. Another reason behind not supporting Bitcoin is that most of the poor countries are not technologically successful so they are inexperienced in using Bitcoin. Now I will talk about politicians. Before the election they give various attractive election manifestos to the people and based on the needs of the people to win the elections. In reality most of the poor natives fail to do so. It is difficult to understand how Maya's promise will be effective there.

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Being a Bitcoiner then running for president is quite a good choice to make especially if the country have many Bitcoiners as well. As far as I can say, this is just a plan to gather lots of support since the candidate for president is a Bitcoiner and it's a win-win for maya and also to the other Bitcoiners in that country if she won. It could also be possible that suriname will be the next country that legalized Bitcoin or make Bitcoin a legal tender like El Salvador did.

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Suriname is a very small country, they have less population than the municipality where I live. Politics naturally works differently in such small countries. We don't know much about Suriname, I'm not going to talk about their politics. I don't know if she's using Bitcoin to advertise herself or if she's really committed to it. I don't know if she has a chance to get elected, if she can fulfill her promises after she's elected. That's why I'm always skeptical about this kind of news. For now, with this move she seems to have found a place in cryptocurrency news sites and collected donations.

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Quote from: ? on October 27, 2024, 02:21:43 PM

To say that Bitcoin cannot offer an alternative to central banks underestimates its potential. In today’s world, where inflation and devaluation are growing concerns, Bitcoin is positioning itself as a solution to protect against currency manipulation, regardless of the country.

You are saying a completely different thing to my post, which makes me wonder if you understood what i wrote. I know BTC is an alternative currency to fiat, that is why it was created, what i mean is it cannot replace fiat or the central bank, like Maya is proposing, that in itself is not practical.

Quote from: ? on October 27, 2024, 02:21:43 PM

And if Maya wins, her decisions will undoubtedly attract the attention of investors and observers, especially if she succeeds where others hesitate to take the plunge.Anyway, that’s how I see it

Then goodluck to her, but seriously, have you seen some of her proposed visions?

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I thought this Bitcoin and election tandem is only limited to Donald Trump and others but there is actually more than it. The rest are only catching up. Bitcoin is not bad and we need a leader like this who also care about his people and not just by their selves. That was great if she immediately receive a boost (Bitcoin donation) and that have also came from a big name on this industry.

I know Curacao is a popular license provider by the casinos. Hhmm... is it a sign of making gambling more legal on that country? Maybe? But that is not wrong as long as it will help the country further. If you ask if what do we think of this trend? My response would be is great, though just like any other trends, this one may not last long as well but this is true because the Election is only a quick event, however as long as the positive effects are still there, it is only fine.

Quote from: Z-tight on October 22, 2024, 08:11:43 AM

Can we call it a 'trend' yet, i don't think so; i am not talking about someone simply campaigning with BTC, but who cannot even use it, i mean real bitcoiners. Suriname is a very small country and i am sure a lot of us do not know much about what goes on there, but if this Maya is pro-BTC, then i wish her luck in what she is trying to achieve.

What about the meme coins and other junks? They are also called as trends, so why not this one? And we don't know, what if after the election their support for BTC is still warm?

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Quote from: Z-tight on October 27, 2024, 12:22:30 PM

Quote from: ? on October 24, 2024, 03:41:18 AM

Honestly, I’m all for it! If Maya brings a Bitcoin Standard to Suriname, it could be a game-changer for the region. BTC gives freedom from central banks, and developing countries stand to gain a lot. But, yeah, there’ll definitely be political pushback.

P.S. Gotta watch how other countries react to this

BTC is a currency that is not controlled by any third party, but on a national scale i don't think it can bring 'freedom' from the central bank, which is a very indispensable institution in every country. Suriname is a very small country, and like i already said, most of us do not know much about what happens there, so even if this Maya wins, i don't think the international world would react much to any of her visions if she implements them, even though i think most of them are unrealistic.

To say that Bitcoin cannot offer an alternative to central banks underestimates its potential. In today’s world, where inflation and devaluation are growing concerns, Bitcoin is positioning itself as a solution to protect against currency manipulation, regardless of the country. Even a “small country” like Suriname could play a pioneering role in experimenting with decentralized solutions, showing the world that there are other ways. And if Maya wins, her decisions will undoubtedly attract the attention of investors and observers, especially if she succeeds where others hesitate to take the plunge.Anyway, that’s how I see it

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Quote from: ? on October 24, 2024, 03:41:18 AM

Honestly, I’m all for it! If Maya brings a Bitcoin Standard to Suriname, it could be a game-changer for the region. BTC gives freedom from central banks, and developing countries stand to gain a lot. But, yeah, there’ll definitely be political pushback.

P.S. Gotta watch how other countries react to this

BTC is a currency that is not controlled by any third party, but on a national scale i don't think it can bring 'freedom' from the central bank, which is a very indispensable institution in every country. Suriname is a very small country, and like i already said, most of us do not know much about what happens there, so even if this Maya wins, i don't think the international world would react much to any of her visions if she implements them, even though i think most of them are unrealistic.

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Quote from: Zoomic on October 25, 2024, 01:04:13 PM

Quote from: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on October 24, 2024, 06:54:06 AM

Honestly, I don't think I love it when the government and politicians wants to go into Bitcoin, because their intention for the coin is not usually very known to the entire public and bitcoiners. During campaigns, politicians can act Bitcoin friendly until they finally achieve the position they want, that's when you will realize that they will not support the decentralization of Bitcoin but will want things to be centralized.

Once the government becomes so interested in bitcoin, they will try to control everything. Maybe starting with the exchanges till we will no longer be sure if bitcoin is actually decentralized.

One thing to always remember is when a political party talks like this about BTC but shows friendly behavior towards Bitcoin there are many reasons behind it. For example, I am giving you an explanation as if the government of our country holds meetings and marches with various assurances before the elections, the common people get high hopes that if they are selected by voting, they will do good work in the future and the instructions given by them. He will implement them but in reality they do none of these things they just do whatever it takes to ensure their victory.

I don't know if you have noticed, a few days ago, a pres.. conference is Donald Trump's pres.. conference, the number of times Donald Trump mentioned bitcoin, it seems that the pres.. conference was focused on bitcoin, you may have seen how many times he mentioned bitcoin. In fact, when their purpose is achieved, no one thinks about them later.

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It is not a bad idea to Run President as a bitcoiner because that can make bitcoin legal when elected and the more government uses bitcoin the more the value increase and the uses increase. As for now because of the government restrictions in some of the country in the world many citizens are also not using it for the fear of blocking their accounts. I went to a village last week and told some of my ex friends to invest in bitcoin and they told me that they don't want the government to block their accounts. And when I asked they said that's what the bankers told them and I encouraged them and told them to use p2p. If bitcoiners win presidential elections then the fear of banning account will reduce. Bitcoin is decentralised and nobody can control it.

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Quote from: Faisal2202 on October 23, 2024, 01:51:16 PM

I just saw her tweets, and she is openly calling others corrupt politicians, like if there are really corrupt politicians in the system, then by running the only campaign of accepting and promoting BTC is not going to help her win the election, she needs more than that. I am glad someone has already donated that much money to her.

She totally wants to eliminate the central bank, unlike El-Salvador she wants to adopt BTC fully and even wants to eliminate their own national currency. That's bold, and IMO she won't make it happen. But I hope she succeeds and her motives as well, and the country's economy will increase, but now is not the time really I mean, if she had started this campaign in a bear market and somehow succeeded then till now the economy would be growing too, but I don't think she is planning to follow in the El-Salvador's footsteps, like they bought BTC at around $50k to $60k.

Honestly this is just a politicians trick and nothing more and I believe we are going to see this person fail as well. I am sure that we are going to see this changing for the long term and not going to end up with anything growing further neither. I believe she is just a trickster who is trying to gain some power and she realized she can't play the regular politicians game because if she did what everyone else did then nobody would know a thing about her at all, but if she goes with bitcoin then she is going to do better.

This is what we are seeing here, and that is why I believe we are going to see this changing for the better and she is going to lose in order to make people who are actual politicians realize how important bitcoin is and how much power it can bring for politicians and how much vote there is for bitcoin as well. For a zero person to get some votes thanks to bitcoin means someone who is not zero would gain a big advantage.

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Quote from: Zoomic on October 25, 2024, 01:04:13 PM

This doesn't sound much like a great news to me, what will she do differently if she becomes president? Encourage the use of an alternative currency that may compete with the nation's currency?

Their national currency sucks, so it can't get much worse if they start using bitcoin. Since 2020 the currency has been in a free fall. They also have over 50% inflation. The country is going to go bankrupt anyway if someone doesn't come up with a plan.

I've seen an interview with her and she's a smart woman with a lot of energy. Could make a great president because you can see she loves that little country. With the money and ideas she's got, Maya could prosper in a developed country, but she chose a country with large inflation, corruption and limited perspectives. I hope she wins and makes a change.

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This doesn't sound much like a great news to me, what will she do differently if she becomes president? Encourage the use of an alternative currency that may compete with the nation's currency? I do not get too excited when people link bitcoin's success to an individual whom they perceive have the capacity to either cause an increase in bitcoin's price or enforce general acceptance and adoption. With the level bitcoin has reached, no president or Head of state has any influence over bitcoin's growth, bitcoin has successfully scaled through all hurdles even without the support we are getting now from politicians. This is why Bitcoin is decentralized, it will still be a success even if she doesn't win.

Quote from: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on October 24, 2024, 06:54:06 AM

Honestly, I don't think I love it when the government and politicians wants to go into Bitcoin, because their intention for the coin is not usually very known to the entire public and bitcoiners. During campaigns, politicians can act Bitcoin friendly until they finally achieve the position they want, that's when you will realize that they will not support the decentralization of Bitcoin but will want things to be centralized.

Once the government becomes so interested in bitcoin, they will try to control everything. Maybe starting with the exchanges till we will no longer be sure if bitcoin is actually decentralized.

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This is a win win situation for Bitcoin and bitcoiners as this will literally mean more adoption and more relevance of the Bitcoin technology and we all know that more adoption would mean more increase in value for everyone who's a Bitcoiners and possibly more profits , for rhos in such countries it becomes easier for them to get adoptions and more official usage of Bitcoin in the country because it can get to the point it becomes a legal tender.

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Quote from: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on October 24, 2024, 06:54:06 AM

Honestly, I don't think I love it when the government and politicians wants to go into Bitcoin, because their intention for the coin is not usually very known to the entire public and bitcoiners. During campaigns, politicians can act Bitcoin friendly until they finally achieve the position they want, that's when you will realize that they will not support the decentralization of Bitcoin but will want things to be centralized.

Nayib Bukele campaigned with Bitcoin and has been friendly to the sector since he became President. Faustin-Archange Touadéra of Central African Republic made Bitcoin a legal tender but the law was later repelled due to some reasons. Donald Trump has made some good promises to the Bitcoin Industry, election is next month. We will have to wait to see if he will fulfil all his promises. One thing is sure politicians will favour centralization because they will always want to control the financial system of the country. But El Salvador had proved that the government can buy and hodl Bitcoin as an investment.

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Imagine if Maya becomes president and marries Bukele and then they have a lot of little babies who will become presidents of various countries and they will all be pro-Bitcoin Roll Eyes

However, if Maya fails to become president, she can always be a model or apply for Miss

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Well let me just say that I hope she is victorious. Bitcoin is still relatively niche in mainstream political space but we will start to see more & more politicians actively disclosing personal ownership of Bitcoin. We are still early but they will come in their hordes.

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Honestly, I don't think I love it when the government and politicians wants to go into Bitcoin, because their intention for the coin is not usually very known to the entire public and bitcoiners. During campaigns, politicians can act Bitcoin friendly until they finally achieve the position they want, that's when you will realize that they will not support the decentralization of Bitcoin but will want things to be centralized.

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