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legendary
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December 27, 2019, 01:27:21 AM
#96
Of course there are bitcoiners in Hong Kong, but I do not understand how you can help them in reality?

buy things from people in Hong Kong who are resisting the Chinese Communist Party. That undermines the bullying regime in the most powerful way, without resorting to violence.

This is one of the advantage with anonymous payment systems such as Bitcoin. It is possible to help the protesters in Hong Kong, without the knowledge of the Chinese authorities. The same thing happened in 2011, when Wikileaks started accepting donations in Bitcoin. But then, most of the Western governments were against the idea. One American agency even considered the possibility of launching a 51% attack against BTC.


Nitpicking for the newbies. Sorry, but Bitcoin is NOT anonymous. I believe that was what the early evangelists of the community were marketing Bitcoin as, as a scalable, anonymous payment system that you can use for "free".

Blockchains do not work that way. There are costs, and efficiences.
sr. member
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Merit: 453
December 26, 2019, 08:57:49 AM
#95
Of course there are bitcoiners in Hong Kong, but I do not understand how you can help them in reality?

buy things from people in Hong Kong who are resisting the Chinese Communist Party. That undermines the bullying regime in the most powerful way, without resorting to violence.

This is one of the advantage with anonymous payment systems such as Bitcoin. It is possible to help the protesters in Hong Kong, without the knowledge of the Chinese authorities. The same thing happened in 2011, when Wikileaks started accepting donations in Bitcoin. But then, most of the Western governments were against the idea. One American agency even considered the possibility of launching a 51% attack against BTC.
jr. member
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December 26, 2019, 08:50:00 AM
#94
Hong Kong is called to be one of the leaders in mining the Bitcoin network. In recent cryptocurrency news, they wrote that a large number of capacities, asic devices, were burned there.
legendary
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December 26, 2019, 04:38:33 AM
#93

They arrested 12 yr old boys and shot people. This is getting bad.

and that's ^^^ why.

These Hong Kong protesters feel like they're prepared for a war, but they're not soldiers, and they're not an army. Real soldiers from a real army are prepared to act as inhuman as it takes to change the protestor's minds. Right, wrong, justice; none of that matters to soldiers that are "just doing their job". sad, but true.

The protestors could go the physical route, but that means decades of asymmetric warfare. And that means being branded as domestic terrorists. If the do as I suggest, and create a parallel economy instead, they will probably still be branded as domestic terrorists. The difference is, that it's easy to get regular people to believe that a guerilla army fighting for freedom are really just terrorists, whereas smugglers and are harder to turn people against, especially if you're trading quality goods with the local people who the Chinese state need to sell their story to.


I believe people from Hong Kong could learn something from "Fight Club" the movie. Instead of protesting directly in the streets, they should work together hidden, and attacking the establishments "from within". Hahaha.

There was another riot on Christmas Eve.
full member
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November 21, 2019, 10:40:59 AM
#92
People protesting in Hong Kong are are doing that for their democracy and and liberty for their people. I am not sure why we need to mingle up this country issue as the Bitcoin is problem.
Cryptocurrency is there to to revolve around the financial sectors and all financial medium but Hong Kong protest is not at all related to that.
Protest in Hong Kong is not related to cryptocurrency, I think the purpose of the above statement is to begin to divert assets to bitcoin because the situation is not possible and the country's currency could be destroyed. i guess like that
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November 21, 2019, 09:46:04 AM
#91
In August 2016 we saw the largest Bitcoin exchange in Hong Kong have been hacked for about $ 60 million, with the exchange rate estimated at over 11,000 Bitcoins being stolen.  This proves that Hong Kong people use a lot of Bitcoin.  Today Bitcoin has dropped about $ 400.  I suspect that a large amount of money has been withdrawn from these exchanges.  Hong Kong has a lot of billionaires and maybe they have speculated a lot of Bitcoin before.
legendary
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November 21, 2019, 08:06:48 AM
#90
buy things from people in Hong Kong who are resisting the Chinese Communist Party. That undermines the bullying regime in the most powerful way, without resorting to violence.


Or donate, directly or indirectly. We should donate Bitcoin masks, and hoodies!

The person from Hong Kong also gave me this donation address, https://hkmap.live/crypto.html#btc

not convinced that's going to help long term tbh

Hong Kong is well-placed to be the blackmarket link into the Chinese industry from the rest of the world, not just geographically but logistically too (Hong Kong already plays this role and has done since before re-establishment of Chinese administration).

I don't know for certain, but Hong Kong probably already is the black market link from China to the rest of the world. Anything we can do to encourage independent Hong Kong businesses that are operating outside of Beijing's control is going to help Hong Kong more than buying masks for university students.


They arrested 12 yr old boys and shot people. This is getting bad.

and that's ^^^ why.

These Hong Kong protesters feel like they're prepared for a war, but they're not soldiers, and they're not an army. Real soldiers from a real army are prepared to act as inhuman as it takes to change the protestor's minds. Right, wrong, justice; none of that matters to soldiers that are "just doing their job". sad, but true.

The protestors could go the physical route, but that means decades of asymmetric warfare. And that means being branded as domestic terrorists. If the do as I suggest, and create a parallel economy instead, they will probably still be branded as domestic terrorists. The difference is, that it's easy to get regular people to believe that a guerilla army fighting for freedom are really just terrorists, whereas smugglers and are harder to turn people against, especially if you're trading quality goods with the local people who the Chinese state need to sell their story to.

legendary
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November 21, 2019, 02:53:50 AM
#89
Latest from the protest. What does this remind YOU of? Learn your history.

https://twitter.com/sloth_on_meth/status/1196426826731708417

Quote

Wow.
#Hongkong arrested now being hauled away by train, unknown destination. Reminds me of something. #HongKongProtests


For anyone who wants to indirectly help in the Hong Kong protests, someone endorsed this donation address to me, https://www.hongkongfp.com/support-hkfp/

That's the Hong Kong Free Press.

I believe there is a place also you can go on Telegram that will let you get into contact with certain people whose telegram number is always changing. I think HK police on orders of china are monitoring HKFP bitcoin address and will try and later link people.

They arrested 12 yr old boys and shot people. This is getting bad.
legendary
Activity: 2898
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November 21, 2019, 02:46:53 AM
#88
Of course there are bitcoiners in Hong Kong, but I do not understand how you can help them in reality?

buy things from people in Hong Kong who are resisting the Chinese Communist Party. That undermines the bullying regime in the most powerful way, without resorting to violence.


Or donate, directly or indirectly. We should donate Bitcoin masks, and hoodies!

The person from Hong Kong also gave me this donation address, https://hkmap.live/crypto.html#btc

I didn't know why he gave me a donation address for a Hong Kong map app, then I remembered. The protestors use the app to coordinate and look for where the police are.

Apple took down their map app from the Hong Kong Appstore, probably under the order of the Chinese government. Apple had to comply, or they will lose cheap, slave labor. Haha.


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November 20, 2019, 12:53:55 PM
#87
People protesting in Hong Kong are are doing that for their democracy and and liberty for their people. I am not sure why we need to mingle up this country issue as the Bitcoin is problem.
Cryptocurrency is there to to revolve around the financial sectors and all financial medium but Hong Kong protest is not at all related to that.
legendary
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Merit: 3071
November 20, 2019, 12:34:16 PM
#86
Of course there are bitcoiners in Hong Kong, but I do not understand how you can help them in reality?

buy things from people in Hong Kong who are resisting the Chinese Communist Party. That undermines the bullying regime in the most powerful way, without resorting to violence.
newbie
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November 20, 2019, 12:10:29 PM
#85
Of course there are bitcoiners in Hong Kong, but I do not understand how you can help them in reality?
legendary
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November 20, 2019, 01:16:15 AM
#84
Latest from the protest. What does this remind YOU of? Learn your history.

https://twitter.com/sloth_on_meth/status/1196426826731708417

Quote

Wow.
#Hongkong arrested now being hauled away by train, unknown destination. Reminds me of something. #HongKongProtests


For anyone who wants to indirectly help in the Hong Kong protests, someone endorsed this donation address to me, https://www.hongkongfp.com/support-hkfp/

That's the Hong Kong Free Press.
legendary
Activity: 2898
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November 15, 2019, 02:14:36 AM
#83
Some Chilean protestors using lasers to take down government's drones. Haha. Some comments say that they learned that from the Hong Kong protests. Cool

https://twitter.com/netsecfocus/status/1194574626761904128?s=12
sr. member
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November 07, 2019, 04:35:50 PM
#82
Before the Hong Kong protest is over I read all the banks are closed due to the mass protest by the people. Thus, all the protesters have no choice but to use cryptocurrency in form of money. When I read the news, I thought the Hong Kong protest would boost the bitcoin price in the market but sadly not maybe next time I guess.
I do not usually expect too much from some of these activities because you will first of all consider the type of people that are protesting and also look at how well doing they are, most of the protesters you see are average people, and if you look at their bank account, they don’t even have much savings because of the numerous responsibilities that has taken their savings away, so how do you expect their money to even make impact on bitcoin value when you know how much of billions of dollars it will take for bitcoin to make a leap form one stage unto the next stage.

For bitcoin to jump by $1000 alone, I think that it will require about $56 billion and that is not a small money man, how much does all the protester shave that their closing of banks will make them to start using cryptocurrency.
sr. member
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November 07, 2019, 09:02:02 AM
#81

Before the Hong Kong protest is over I read all the banks are closed due to the mass protest by the people. Thus, all the protesters have no choice but to use cryptocurrency in form of money. When I read the news, I thought the Hong Kong protest would boost the bitcoin price in the market but sadly not maybe next time I guess.


Sad to hear that Hong Kong protest not over yet and China plans to impose national security laws in HK after months of anti government protest, as they said the violence happening there should not be tolerated and accepted by any nation in the world. It is creating an alarming for the people, because of this, the economy of Hong Kong is fluctuating.
sr. member
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November 07, 2019, 03:12:18 AM
#80
Are there Bitcoiners in Hong Kong? How is the situation over there? I believe it should be Bitcoin's time, and help protesters in collecting donations, and help move value in Bitcoin.
Yes am a bitcoiners and i'm here in hongkong now as a nanny. The situation here are not good. There are many protesters  here some train not stop operating. Becaus protesters are violence they are throwing ah gas with fire at any kind of builing. So hongkong now is not safe.


That's terrible and frightening situation. on that day bitcoiners in hongkong really fighting for their freedom to use bitcoin. because they really see that if they use bitcoin they have liberty to their funds and they are not just easily manipulate and control by their government. with this happening all hong kong citizens will surely make their own way to safe their crypto funds and not over controlled by chinese government. however, does this work of the Chinese government last? and they are still cracking down on bitcoiners even if they are already using the blockchain system and even making their own cryptocurrency?
legendary
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November 07, 2019, 02:53:39 AM
#79
The "small protest" is slowly evolving into a civil unrest. Hong Kong's civil servants are joining the crowd, I believe the passionate Bitcoiners should also do what they can now. Donate, advertise, promote, short the banks/HODL. Cool

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/11/hong-kong-official-chides-civil-servants-joining-protests-191105042826618.html


The worse thing in all this to me is that my local news is blocking all of these news, even though it has so little to do with us and is rather far away. My country has almost nothing to gain with China but to please them we just try not to show all the "bad news". China itself is being quite silent about the whole thing too, but I fear soon they will do something about this whole mess, and maybe about bitcoin itself.
legendary
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November 07, 2019, 02:45:10 AM
#78
I found someone from Hong Kong who might give more information about the protests, and how we can help. Does anyone know where we can order made to order face-masks, or t-shirts that accept payment in Bitcoin? Cool
hero member
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November 06, 2019, 07:32:29 PM
#77
Are there Bitcoiners in Hong Kong? How is the situation over there? I believe it should be Bitcoin's time, and help protesters in collecting donations, and help move value in Bitcoin.

There are a lot of bitcoiners or bitcoin users in hongkong. With the current conflict between the pro-democracy groups and the beijing loyalist constant protest were held and people are already suffering including their economy. It is no wonder that many hongkong citizens are now buying bitcoin. If you want to check at localbitcoins you can find there a huge volume of peer to peer transactions. If the protest will continue hongkong dollars will decline and people will continue to migrate into bitcoin.

Anyway check out this article to see how the conflict in hongkong have created huge impact on bitcoin: https://thenextweb.com/hardfork/2019/10/02/localbitcoins-sees-huge-spikes-in-usage-during-hong-kongs-political-unrest/

Yes, exactly, there are lots of crypto enthusiast situated in Hongkong, we even have some exchanges there, I don't know exactly why they need to protest and they can't unite as one, so thank you for sharing it. Hope that everything will be fine there, but as per my friend, they are fine and they can transact crypto exchange in Hongkong despite the war happening there.
I also have my friend in Hongkong and right now, things are doing fine already. They can transact already whatever transactions they want including with those crypto enthusiasts compared with those previous days wherein they just want to stay inside their homes to avoid the war outside. Now, things are back to normal and crypto exchanges continue to operate for those who want to make crypto transactions.
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