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Topic: Bitcoinica: How it works (Read 15492 times)

legendary
Activity: 1458
Merit: 1006
January 20, 2012, 11:49:24 AM
Sticky request.  Smiley
donator
Activity: 3108
Merit: 1166
January 06, 2012, 04:06:26 PM
yep, I've been genning up on this now for over 6 months & am still not confident that I get it 100%
I will need to start playing around with the wallet to get surer - I'll only send loose change to it while I practice
& even when I recon that I know pretty well how to keep it backed up & secure it will be at least 6 months more of playing around with it before I expect to feel confident enough make any long term deep storage wallets via linux which again I've only briefly looked in to over the last 3 months
sr. member
Activity: 446
Merit: 250
January 06, 2012, 03:46:41 PM
indeed bitcoins, they just work, other options/intermediaries often seem to suck or at the very least appear not have got their act together as yet, a good learning experience

I even plan on actually downloading the client soon & starting to learn how a BTC wallet works with small change at first rather than just relying upon the exchanges to hold my BTC
If I may offer advice, Just be sure to learn how to properly and safely back up your wallet.
donator
Activity: 3108
Merit: 1166
January 06, 2012, 03:28:24 PM
indeed bitcoins, they just work, other options/intermediaries often seem to suck or at the very least appear not have got their act together as yet, a good learning experience

I even plan on actually downloading the client soon & starting to learn how a BTC wallet works with small change at first rather than just relying upon the exchanges to hold my BTC

up to now most of my BTC are at Mt.Gox so it seems about the same risk having them there as requesting/holding/using a Mt.Gox BTC code, the only problem was that it didn't get issued so what's the point, I wanted to move BTC to Mt.Gox & saw a Mt.Gox related facility so assumed that was the way to go, hopeless - from now on I just bitcoin transfer & Mt.Gox BTC codes can be for perhaps some fun other scenarios but I won't use them to transfer funds from Bitcoinica to Mt.Gox again & seriously Zhou should have a warning or pop up when they are maxed out to prevent peeps from going down that dead end route when it's so avoidable by just bitcoin transferring to one's Mt.Gox account

edit to add: I've now sent the BTC back to Bitcoinica from Gox & the Gox BTC code is fantastic for this as it's about instant - very useful in a fast moving market & most impressive service
sr. member
Activity: 446
Merit: 250
January 06, 2012, 02:48:13 PM
I cancelled my request for a Mt.Gox BTC code after waiting for over 12 hrs & then just withdrew to my Mt.Gox deposit address (withdraw to wallet option) the funds had cleared there within 1 hr - sweet  Smiley
actual bitcoins are awesome, arn't they? MtGox codes feel so much like "paper money" if you catch my drift.
donator
Activity: 3108
Merit: 1166
January 06, 2012, 10:40:53 AM
I cancelled my request for a Mt.Gox BTC code after waiting for over 12 hrs & then just withdrew to my Mt.Gox deposit address (withdraw to wallet option) the funds had cleared there within 1 hr - sweet  Smiley
legendary
Activity: 1764
Merit: 1002
January 06, 2012, 10:28:05 AM
seems a little odd to me we haven't heard from Zhou for a while.  has anyone been able to remove USD's from Bitcoinica recently?  is trading proceeding normally?

I'm in my hometown right now.

Withdrawals: Apparently we have hit Mt. Gox's monthly withdrawal limit. Bitcoinica users have to wait for a few days for this limit to be refilled.

Trading: No redflag event longer than 5 seconds has been recorded in the last 48 hours.

so its defined by month.  can u tell us what the parameters of these limits are. i think that would help everyone.
donator
Activity: 3108
Merit: 1166
January 06, 2012, 06:13:21 AM
seems a little odd to me we haven't heard from Zhou for a while.  has anyone been able to remove USD's from Bitcoinica recently?  is trading proceeding normally?

I'm in my hometown right now.

Withdrawals: Apparently we have hit Mt. Gox's monthly withdrawal limit. Bitcoinica users have to wait for a few days for this limit to be refilled.

Trading: No redflag event longer than 5 seconds has been recorded in the last 48 hours.

yep my funds are still locked in, if I cancel the request for a Mt.Gox Btc code can I then just send the Btc to my deposit address at Mt.Gox via bitcoinica's withdraw to wallet option, I assume yes
the few dollars also locked in I don't mind waiting for & btw Zhou if I'm ever in Singapore I'd like to buy you a stupendous lunch, preferably with bitcoins
hero member
Activity: 686
Merit: 500
Shame on everything; regret nothing.
January 06, 2012, 02:00:23 AM
seems a little odd to me we haven't heard from Zhou for a while.  has anyone been able to remove USD's from Bitcoinica recently?  is trading proceeding normally?

I'm in my hometown right now.

Withdrawals: Apparently we have hit Mt. Gox's monthly withdrawal limit. Bitcoinica users have to wait for a few days for this limit to be refilled.

Trading: No redflag event longer than 5 seconds has been recorded in the last 48 hours.

FIVE SECONDS!!!!!! BULLSHIT, I WANT IT NOW!!!!!!

lolz, i'm sleep deprived.

Nice to hear from you, Zhou.  :-)
vip
Activity: 490
Merit: 502
January 06, 2012, 01:57:33 AM
seems a little odd to me we haven't heard from Zhou for a while.  has anyone been able to remove USD's from Bitcoinica recently?  is trading proceeding normally?

I'm in my hometown right now.

Withdrawals: Apparently we have hit Mt. Gox's monthly withdrawal limit. Bitcoinica users have to wait for a few days for this limit to be refilled.

Trading: No redflag event longer than 5 seconds has been recorded in the last 48 hours.
member
Activity: 85
Merit: 10
January 06, 2012, 01:43:09 AM
I've been trying to figure out how to do shorting and set stoplosses on MtGox but I don't see either capability...

so I searched and found this thread where people are mentioning shorting and bitcoinica ... I can't seem to get to bitcoinica.com though. 

Can someone point me to more information on traditional daytrading type support for shorting and stoploss functions? 

thanks
legendary
Activity: 1764
Merit: 1002
January 05, 2012, 07:05:47 PM
seems a little odd to me we haven't heard from Zhou for a while.  has anyone been able to remove USD's from Bitcoinica recently?  is trading proceeding normally?
donator
Activity: 3108
Merit: 1166
January 05, 2012, 06:42:09 PM
also see the end of this thread re trailing stops fail

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.676378
legendary
Activity: 1386
Merit: 1000
hero member
Activity: 609
Merit: 501
peace
January 05, 2012, 05:36:49 PM
there is clearly double counting going on with trailing stop.

i recorded 10 minutes of bitcoinica, and especially towards the end, leads me to believe the trails increases way too much when the bid just goes back and forth.

if it interests :
https://content22.wuala.com/rawcontent/r1fU0d06FWaFdx2fec7ZHq9viHXZ3nlbtTCfLi3fzRSqfpCzTYrtqM4Vk5SMAm2Njw-i3hIeloQQRRINU4LGPZp7eEfi1sN6t5XpQEdW6xeZqbyZZSVAp3c_TDtPBVuas_z1PnKF7riIMxYNPy_xQb5KE9yjOzrn2OSuIQIvoIs/out-26.ogv

does this link work?
hero member
Activity: 609
Merit: 501
peace
January 05, 2012, 05:09:18 PM
has anyone used the trailing stop?

i just bought 100btc at 6,3683 with a trailing at 6.
The price is now at 6,3642 but my trailing has been increasing and is now at 6,17 and I cancelled it.

Did the spread get smaller? or have i missed something ? this was in the space of 12 minutes

Spreads got smaller and the price was moving up, moving the trailing stop up as well

i just tried again at 5 and it is now at 5,16 and nor the bid or ask increased by that much.

something is counting the increases a bit too much in my opinion.
donator
Activity: 3108
Merit: 1166
January 05, 2012, 04:53:33 PM
I don't know if he's fixed it as yet but zhou admitted recently to problems re trailing stops functionability & planned to recode them soon
hero member
Activity: 686
Merit: 500
Bitbuy
January 05, 2012, 04:47:01 PM
has anyone used the trailing stop?

i just bought 100btc at 6,3683 with a trailing at 6.
The price is now at 6,3642 but my trailing has been increasing and is now at 6,17 and I cancelled it.

Did the spread get smaller? or have i missed something ? this was in the space of 12 minutes

Spreads got smaller and the price was moving up, moving the trailing stop up as well
hero member
Activity: 609
Merit: 501
peace
January 05, 2012, 04:45:27 PM
has anyone used the trailing stop?

i just bought 100btc at 6,3683 with a trailing at 6.
The price is now at 6,3642 but my trailing has been increasing and is now at 6,17 and I cancelled it.

Did the spread get smaller? or have i missed something ? this was in the space of 12 minutes
hero member
Activity: 686
Merit: 500
Bitbuy
January 05, 2012, 04:33:18 PM
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