Topic: Bitcoinica MtGox account compromised - page 32. (Read 156012 times)

Quote from: aq on July 13, 2012, 09:21:20 AM

Why not just give the funds to Pirate, wait a month and have it back to 100%. Also after that month let Pirate keep it to give out to who he thinks is owed. I trust him way better than intersango at this point.

Fuck it, they might as well at this point. The remaining funds will be hacked shortly, otherwise. Better to invest in a (suspected) ponzi than to just give it away to the hackers. Because they WILL get it. The Bitcoinica team is just too incompetent not to give it to the hackers.

What's the total that bitoinica related ventures have given to hackers so far?

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https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.635291

I thought you needed a YUBIKEY to withdrawal that amount!

PLAN B

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Mt. Gox reported me to the police when my wife tried to send me funds...

Because usually it is the other way around Tongue

SCNR

That's fair enough Grin

Never had a bird send me money. Suspicious activity.

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Quote from: iamapi on July 13, 2012, 09:35:03 AM

Why not just give the funds to Pirate, wait a month and have it back to 100%. Also after that month let Pirate keep it to give out to who he thinks is owed. I trust him way better than intersango at this point.

Fuck it, they might as well at this point. The remaining funds will be hacked shortly, otherwise. Better to invest in a (suspected) ponzi than to just give it away to the hackers. Because they WILL get it. The Bitcoinica team is just too incompetent not to give it to the hackers.

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Can I say dirty words?
If not, I have nothing to say!

Go on...

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Quote from: Raoul Duke on July 13, 2012, 04:36:07 AM

Just like the 18k BTC theft, this one is also very convenient.

I imagine no police report also on this one.

Bullshit. You guys(Bitcoinica customers) are being taken for a ride.

Seriously - the story is no longer plausible. You guys are clearly acting with criminal intent, or negligence. I'm finding negligence harder and harder to believe.

MODS - SCAMMER TAGS ARE NOW NECESSARY!!! This is BEYOND a scam.

The theft that closed bitcoinica was a farce, and too convenient, especially after watching all of the red flags leading up to that event.

I'm truly surprised it too this long for them to repay funds to all their friends and then steal the rest of the money.

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Quote from: davout on July 13, 2012, 09:19:52 AM

Why not just give the funds to Pirate, wait a month and have it back to 100%.

Hahaha, no

I recommend patrick.

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1ngldh

Guys.
This is LastPass:

LastPass free version supports Google Authenticator:

It also supports grid authentication:

For only $12 PER YEAR, it also supports Yubikeys:

How to add a Yubikey to LastPass (won't work with a MtGox Yubikey):

How to authenticate to LastPass with a Yubikey:

Longer passwords are not more secure if they are stored anywhere!

This is MtGox:

MtGox supports Google Authenticator:

They also support Yubikey, via a custom-branded device:

I think you get the idea. It's FUCKING SIMPLE to enable one or all of these options!

I have one other beef: MtGox needs to offer an option to require telephone confirmation of large withdrawals. This can be automated. If the withdrawal is unusual (40+k BTC or USD or whatever), DON'T FUCKING APPROVE IT INSTANTLY!

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Mt. Gox reported me to the police when my wife tried to send me funds...

Because usually it is the other way around Tongue

SCNR

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Mt. Gox reported me to the police when my wife tried to send me funds...

I assume your wife is unamerican enough to be considered suspicious, right? Lips sealed

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Quote from: Mt.Gox Support on July 13, 2012, 09:16:09 AM

Why not just give the funds to Pirate, wait a month and have it back to 100%.

Hahaha, no

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Quote from: Mt.Gox Support on July 13, 2012, 08:57:43 AM

Quote from: Mt.Gox Support on July 13, 2012, 08:45:17 AM

Quote from: Mt.Gox Support on July 13, 2012, 09:16:09 AM

Bitcoins ok, but how 40k dollars disappear? how withdrawn? I do not know how mtgox codes work, but you can not really know where are redeemed? Other options dwolla? OKPAY? Bitinstant? LR? I really can't believe that you can move dollars without knowing where, how and to whom.

We know how and where the USD moved, but unfortunately those funds are not under our control anymore.

Well, no shit they're not under your control, but you do know to whose account they moved, right?

I understand your frustation and I would love to give you all details, unfortunately I cannot do this at this time and place. I will definitively give you all more details when I will be allowed to.
As you can understand the situation is rather delicate and we, Mt.Gox, would not want to jeopardize any possible investigation by giving such details at this point.

Ok, fine. But such details do exist, yes? I'm not asking you to disclose that information here. I just want to confirm that you can track where the USD went.

As I said we know how and where the USD moved, so yes.

Can someone please quickly hack Mt.Gox to extract this very information?

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Quote from: Mt.Gox Support on July 13, 2012, 08:57:43 AM

Quote from: Mt.Gox Support on July 13, 2012, 08:45:17 AM

Quote from: proudhon on July 13, 2012, 09:14:45 AM

Bitcoins ok, but how 40k dollars disappear? how withdrawn? I do not know how mtgox codes work, but you can not really know where are redeemed? Other options dwolla? OKPAY? Bitinstant? LR? I really can't believe that you can move dollars without knowing where, how and to whom.

We know how and where the USD moved, but unfortunately those funds are not under our control anymore.

Well, no shit they're not under your control, but you do know to whose account they moved, right?

I understand your frustation and I would love to give you all details, unfortunately I cannot do this at this time and place. I will definitively give you all more details when I will be allowed to.
As you can understand the situation is rather delicate and we, Mt.Gox, would not want to jeopardize any possible investigation by giving such details at this point.

Ok, fine. But such details do exist, yes? I'm not asking you to disclose that information here. I just want to confirm that you can track where the USD went.

As I said we know how and where the USD moved, so yes.

Ok, thanks.

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Quote from: caveden on July 13, 2012, 09:13:53 AM

Quote from: Mt.Gox Support on July 13, 2012, 08:57:43 AM

Quote from: Mt.Gox Support on July 13, 2012, 08:45:17 AM

We know how and where the USD moved, but unfortunately those funds are not under our control anymore.

Well, no shit they're not under your control, but you do know to whose account they moved, right?

I understand your frustation and I would love to give you all details, unfortunately I cannot do this at this time and place. I will definitively give you all more details when I will be allowed to.
As you can understand the situation is rather delicate and we, Mt.Gox, would not want to jeopardize any possible investigation by giving such details at this point.

I thought a verified account could only transfer large sums to bank accounts of their own. Didn't some guy from this forum had issues with a wire he sent to his wife's account or something?

Exactly what I'm getting at.

Benig a business account changes things. But I would have still assumed the withdrawing target would still need to be registerd already with the business account. Atleast that would be the right way to do it...

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Quote from: Mt.Gox Support on July 13, 2012, 08:57:43 AM

Quote from: Mt.Gox Support on July 13, 2012, 08:45:17 AM

Quote from: caveden on July 13, 2012, 09:13:53 AM

Bitcoins ok, but how 40k dollars disappear? how withdrawn? I do not know how mtgox codes work, but you can not really know where are redeemed? Other options dwolla? OKPAY? Bitinstant? LR? I really can't believe that you can move dollars without knowing where, how and to whom.

We know how and where the USD moved, but unfortunately those funds are not under our control anymore.

Well, no shit they're not under your control, but you do know to whose account they moved, right?

I understand your frustation and I would love to give you all details, unfortunately I cannot do this at this time and place. I will definitively give you all more details when I will be allowed to.
As you can understand the situation is rather delicate and we, Mt.Gox, would not want to jeopardize any possible investigation by giving such details at this point.

Ok, fine. But such details do exist, yes? I'm not asking you to disclose that information here. I just want to confirm that you can track where the USD went.

As I said we know how and where the USD moved, so yes.

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Quote from: Mt.Gox Support on July 13, 2012, 08:57:43 AM

Quote from: Mt.Gox Support on July 13, 2012, 08:45:17 AM

We know how and where the USD moved, but unfortunately those funds are not under our control anymore.

Well, no shit they're not under your control, but you do know to whose account they moved, right?

I understand your frustation and I would love to give you all details, unfortunately I cannot do this at this time and place. I will definitively give you all more details when I will be allowed to.
As you can understand the situation is rather delicate and we, Mt.Gox, would not want to jeopardize any possible investigation by giving such details at this point.

I thought a verified account could only transfer large sums to bank accounts of their own. Didn't some guy from this forum had issues with a wire he sent to his wife's account or something?

Exactly what I'm getting at.

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Quote from: Mt.Gox Support on July 13, 2012, 08:57:43 AM

Quote from: Mt.Gox Support on July 13, 2012, 08:45:17 AM

Quote from: Mt.Gox Support on July 13, 2012, 08:57:43 AM

Bitcoins ok, but how 40k dollars disappear? how withdrawn? I do not know how mtgox codes work, but you can not really know where are redeemed? Other options dwolla? OKPAY? Bitinstant? LR? I really can't believe that you can move dollars without knowing where, how and to whom.

We know how and where the USD moved, but unfortunately those funds are not under our control anymore.

Well, no shit they're not under your control, but you do know to whose account they moved, right?

I understand your frustation and I would love to give you all details, unfortunately I cannot do this at this time and place. I will definitively give you all more details when I will be allowed to.
As you can understand the situation is rather delicate and we, Mt.Gox, would not want to jeopardize any possible investigation by giving such details at this point.

i want that info. History here with investigations shows that if left to those currently responsible nothing will happen. If given to us before whatever third party provider now ahs it we can track it down.

Gox, should you not be filing an AML request to freeze said funds with where ever they were sent?!?!?! Like NOW!

Ok, fine. But such details do exist, yes? I'm not asking you to disclose that information here. I just want to confirm that you can track where the USD went.

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Quote from: Mt.Gox Support on July 13, 2012, 08:45:17 AM

We know how and where the USD moved, but unfortunately those funds are not under our control anymore.

Well, no shit they're not under your control, but you do know to whose account they moved, right?

I understand your frustation and I would love to give you all details, unfortunately I cannot do this at this time and place. I will definitively give you all more details when I will be allowed to.
As you can understand the situation is rather delicate and we, Mt.Gox, would not want to jeopardize any possible investigation by giving such details at this point.

I thought a verified account could only transfer large sums to bank accounts of their own. Didn't some guy from this forum had issues with a wire he sent to his wife's account or something?

Anyone, I wish you good luck tracking this criminal.
This whole thing is way too awful. I'm sorry for everyone involved.

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