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Topic: 'bitcoinst' abusing signature campaign with alt account & spamming by copy-paste - page 2. (Read 890 times)

hero member
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I think its time to add a new rule to the signature campaigns, like when someone wants to add an article or any other news content should be included inside tags

Code:
 [quote]....... article or anything which taken from other websites....[/quote] 
so it won't be counted towards the number of characters needed for that post to become eligible.

By this rule, any signature participant won't be facing any issues while sharing any important content.
legendary
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Bitcoinst is one of the users which keep spamming in Press board with various websites, similar to jdebunt, blacky90, S3cco, crabby, HB Wallet, CoinIdol News and others. I reported all his posts containing links to articles but only a few of them were deleted. The same happened when I reported similar posts from the other above mentioned users. From all of them only CoinIdol News was banned and that happened after months while he was constantly reported by me and also by several other users.

Excepting CoinIdol, my reports for the other shillers were mostly left unhandled until they disappeared from my report history thus they will remain unhandled forever. My last action toward Bitcoinst was on September 14th, 2020 when I reported 25 of his posts: 4 were good reports, 1 bad and 20 unhandled...

As far as I see, mods take action when such shillings (spam) are done by low ranked members, but tend to tolerate the posts made by users with higher ranks, although I don't understand why.
sr. member
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Tough call here honestly. The guy is not plagiarizing, but at the same time he is not really adding any original content.
I don't think that's something tough. If most of his posts are such spam crap, I would say it's plagiarism. Such copy paste would only be accepted if someone finds very interesting article and summarize a little and then share a link. That's how it should work. But he is solely doing this to fill the camp requirements only.
Anyway, great to see that you come forward soon and taking step.
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copper member
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I think if the user wants to continue with this type of behavior he will not be banned by the staff, but he shouldn't be paid for being a person who is putting very little effort into his posts.
Whatever the case is, the user has shown up on my spam lists twice. In the original clearing of spam, I reported 41 of his posts, and in a more recent purge it seems the user had another 16 deleted. (in fact, the user even shows up on one of my bookmark folders labeled 'egregious one-liner spammers')

If those report messages weren't enough to act as a warning, then the user lacks self-awareness and clearly does not give even a protozoic shit about the forum.

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legendary
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Tough call here honestly. The guy is not plagiarizing, but at the same time he is not really adding any original content. Looks like most of the posts you guys are talking about really should be in the press section which are posts that I do not pay for.

I think if the user wants to continue with this type of behavior he will not be banned by the staff, but he shouldn't be paid for being a person who is putting very little effort into his posts.

I'll send him a message and let him know change his habits or find a new campaign. Thanks @Coolcryptovator.
legendary
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Smart is not enough, there must be skills
This is bad behavior, which is done by members of the hero, having to put a few words in a post, it will be better than copy and paste and with the source, such behavior will be copied a lot for those who are lazy to type and at the end of the post becomes spam. Didn't he read this thread to think again?

How it's possible to create a post in between only 40 seconds

Look at him abusing words in his close-up or burspotting posts as well as his bad behavior by filling in his signature quota and I think he will continue to spam.
legendary
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I checked bitcoinst posts history and to be honest I don't think he is trying to cheat or abuse the sig. campaign. Besides, yahoo62278 isn't the kind of managers you can easily fool.

Here is why I think so:
     - He has been doing this for too long (since 2015 to be exact), it looks like he simply like sharing news.
     - Although he wasn't part of any sig campaign between the 24th and the 28th of September, out of the ~10 posts he made, 7 were copy-pasted articles.
     - Since he joined the bitsler campaign (5 days ago), he made 30 posts, out of which only 11 are copy-pasted articles.
legendary
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Send a PM to the campaign manger and tell him about it. If the Campaign manager is OK with his posts and the mods don't delete them, then it means it is the right way. Our opinion is not really important.
Yea sent a PM to Yahoo62278. Hope he will take a look at this post and leave his valuable opinion. I have created this thread for open discussion. The post isn't just to a certain user, other users would be aware of the discussion as well. So of course our opinion is quite important at least for the learning purpose. Doesn't matter if the manager pays them, it depends on them. But this behavior is really bad in my opinion.

I'm lazy.  Who's the Bitsler campaign manager?
Your answer is above, but I am not blaming the manager. Because I have mentioned on the OP that it's not easy to spot such as copy-paste from each user and for each post.

 
Hydrogen does the same thing in the Chipmixer campaign, except he always adds some of his own thoughts.
No matter if someone adds a quote with his own thoughts, it's totally acceptable IMO. But bitcoinst nothing adding from his own and almost 50% post making this way.
legendary
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I'm lazy.  Who's the Bitsler campaign manager?

I have no problem with posts like he's been making recently, though it would be nice if he would add a little commentary of his own at the end, just to spark the discussion.  Personally I don't read any of the crypto news sites and I don't keep up with the mainstream financial news like I used to, so when a member creates a thread that's based around a "clipping" from an article, I usually find it interesting.  Hydrogen does the same thing in the Chipmixer campaign, except he always adds some of his own thoughts.

But the way bitcoinst is just making posts out of quotes--even if there's a reference--I'm not sure any campaign should be paying members for that.  It doesn't take much effort to find a news article and copy/paste a quote from it, add a citation, and hit the "submit" button.  And you're right, OP.  If other members catch on to the fact that he's getting paid for those kinds of posts (I'm assuming he is), we could have a mess on our hands.
legendary
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Send a PM to the campaign manger and tell him about it. If the Campaign manager is OK with his posts and the mods don't delete them, then it means it is the right way. Our opinion is not really important.
legendary
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Signature space for rent
User bitcoinst has drawn my attention today, he has been making copy past post from some other sources directly. Since he is adding the link of the source, so I can't call it plagiarism. But my question is this the right way to copy-paste? Just visit his last 20 posts and he made 10 posts by copy-paste from other sources. Simply added the link below post even didn't add the word "source".

Surely, it's quite easy to fill weekly quota for the signature campaign by copy past since it will take two minutes to make a long post. It doesn't matter if the manager allows him to do it, but if all users follow his way then the forum will fill with the spam. It's quite surprising that even hadn't deleted advertise of sources which hasn't related to the topic.

If you visit his post history then you will notice that he has been posting this stuff for a long time. It's quite complicated for managers to make sure the every each post isn't plagiarized or badly copy-pasted. This means he is cheating campaign managers as well IMO.

I am really not posting to punish him, but as a hero member, he should avoid such behavior and should contribute to the forum as much he can. I am posting it publicly rather than send him a PM because more users will learn and could avoid such behavior. Sometimes making such as post is fine, but making more than 50% such as post really just spams to fill the weekly quota.

Edited special note: Account connected bitcoinst, spike420211 & TrevorS. Cheating on the signature campaign.


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