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Topic: 'bitcoinst' abusing signature campaign with alt account & spamming by copy-paste (Read 890 times)

legendary
Activity: 2464
Merit: 1145
Accounts will be banned from my campaign und both users above meritted for pming me Smiley
Thanks for quick action.

Both of you are invited to the sig campaign if you are interested!
Thanks once again for the invitation, really appreciated. Currently, I am engaged with some other campaign. Noticed you don't have any rules for the signature campaign. It would be better to write a few rules for your signature campaign. So before apply applicants would read about the requirements.

Ah the rules are stated on the bounty0x page where you need to register first Wink
legendary
Activity: 2086
Merit: 1282
Logo Designer ⛨ BSFL Division1
So it's clear these three accounts are handled by the same person. Tagged all of them also sent PM to the campaign manager criptix to take a look at this thread since there is no rules on the signature campaign.
Guy ruined 3 accounts so fast, and I think that with more research people will find more accounts connected with him.
It appears posting on bitcointalk forum was his full time job Smiley
Time to look for new job now.
legendary
Activity: 3290
Merit: 16489
Thick-Skinned Gang Leader and Golden Feather 2021
I reported this post yesterday (for advertising). The report is marked as Good, but the post is still there.
I've added "Download The Decrypt App" to my advertising spam search. With all other keywords combined, bitcoinst shows up on that page 24 times.
legendary
Activity: 2128
Merit: 1775
Its really hard to say how many more alt accounts he got.
I don't mind @bitcoinst, he has 2-3 more Alt accounts, lots of members have Alt here.

Which is my question, why @bitcoinst, cheating with Alt's account in the same campaign, I think he already knows all that, cheating in the campaign is banned.

I saw @TrevorS, his post has revealed some bounty campaign scams in this forum, I'm sure he, surely knows, that cheating in campaigns is not allowed, why did he do it.

what is it all, being said to be greedy, self-destructive.
copper member
Activity: 1204
Merit: 737
✅ Need Campaign Manager? TG > @TalkStar675
Not yet done, you just excluded main culprits bitcoinst from the tag.

I think topic title should change.

You may forgot to check later. After getting replies from campaign managers i tagged him too.

Its really hard to say how many more alt accounts he got. Really surprising and most probably he is the one who made a lot of money from different signatures through all these alts. Luckily YOSHIE detected all three account through the similarity of BTC address otherwise i think it wasn't possible to reveal the connection between them.  
legendary
Activity: 2394
Merit: 2223
Signature space for rent
Accounts will be banned from my campaign und both users above meritted for pming me Smiley
Thanks for quick action.

Both of you are invited to the sig campaign if you are interested!
Thanks once again for the invitation, really appreciated. Currently, I am engaged with some other campaign. Noticed you don't have any rules for the signature campaign. It would be better to write a few rules for your signature campaign. So before apply applicants would read about the requirements.
legendary
Activity: 3696
Merit: 2219
💲🏎️💨🚓
That means he is controlling multiple accounts, so its expected from such users.
Look what he's doing with his Alt.

Just the three alts @Yoshi has mentioned have received a cumulative total of 169 merits from @theymos in just nine installments.

Another marker:

Code:
9/6/2018 5:32:50 AM woke up TrevorS
9/19/2018 7:11:46 PM password changed bitcoinst

None have a DT trust list, however, it'd be worth looking at where the merits went to as well as a more in-depth look at their various wallet addresses, social media profiles etc.

Well done Yoshi!
legendary
Activity: 2464
Merit: 1145
Thanks a lot for pming me and showing me the thread.

Accounts will be banned from my campaign und both users above meritted for pming me Smiley

Ps:

Both of you are invited to the sig campaign if you are interested!
legendary
Activity: 2394
Merit: 2223
Signature space for rent
~snip~
Really surprising! Means bitcoinst is a account farmer. I am assuming there would be more. I am writing clearly below since I am going to leave negative feedbacks.

1. bitcoinst & spike420211 are connected here & here with the address : bc1qs3mcfmyak58df3stt4ldf58qta7u8pyakvx5rq

2. spike420211  & TrevorS are connected here & here with address: bc1qepx4ap2kghme0xtr2e8x3mf4x3rvprfdu6zl4v

3. spike420211 & TrevorS  are cheating on LATTICE campaign.

So it's clear these three accounts are handled by the same person. Tagged all of them also sent PM to the campaign manager criptix to take a look at this thread since there is no rules on the signature campaign.

Both account tagged from my end and looking forward to see more negative feedback from other DT members.
Not yet done, you just excluded main culprits bitcoinst from the tag.

I think topic title should change.
copper member
Activity: 1204
Merit: 737
✅ Need Campaign Manager? TG > @TalkStar675
Anyone can report to the campaign manager, I'm not feeling well today.
Thanks for providing informations about these alts. I have already notified manager to take necessary action against both account. I wish you will get well soon and we will see more impressive investigation works from your side "YOSHIE"      

Both account tagged from my end and looking forward to see more negative feedback from other DT members.

Edit: PM sent to yahoo62278 including all details about these alts. 
legendary
Activity: 2128
Merit: 1775
That means he is controlling multiple accounts, so its expected from such users.
Look what he's doing with his Alt.


I told you they were Alt and also cheated on the campaign.





1. TrevorS
2. spike420211

Proof:

Bitcointalk Username: TrevorS
Bitcointalk Profile Link: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/trevors-357351;sa=summary
Post Count (this included): 1269
BTC Address: bc1qepx4ap2kghme0xtr2e8x3mf4x3rvprfdu6zl4v
[ archive ]

Bitcointalk Username: spike420211
Bitcointalk profile link: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/spike420211-126566;sa=summary
Current post count (Including this one): 1425
Amount of merit (Earned) in the last 120 days: 7
BTC Address for Weekly Payouts: bc1qepx4ap2kghme0xtr2e8x3mf4x3rvprfdu6zl4v
[ archive ]

Related Addresses:
Code:
BTC Address for Weekly Payouts: bc1qepx4ap2kghme0xtr2e8x3mf4x3rvprfdu6zl4v
BTC: bc1qs3mcfmyak58df3stt4ldf58qta7u8pyakvx5rq

No doubt @bitcoinst's post was just to cater for sig campaigns.

Anyone can report to the campaign manager, I'm not feeling well today.
legendary
Activity: 3276
Merit: 2442
Seems a few more users doing the same thing on the press section. For example, Karartma1, I have noticed nine posts made by him the first page in the press section. He is also from on Bitsler campaign, but the good thing is Yahoo62278 does not count post from that section as he said in the above post. Posting style almost the same just copy-pasting directly and add the link only.

That means he is controlling multiple accounts, so its expected from such users.

Fucking account farmers make me sick. I didn't before but now I care about it.
legendary
Activity: 2394
Merit: 2223
Signature space for rent
Seems a few more users doing the same thing on the press section. For example, Karartma1, I have noticed nine posts made by him the first page in the press section. He is also from on Bitsler campaign, but the good thing is Yahoo62278 does not count post from that section as he said in the above post. Posting style almost the same just copy-pasting directly and add the link only.

That means he is controlling multiple accounts, so its expected from such users.
legendary
Activity: 1526
Merit: 1359
Yes, such copy/pasted posts should be restricted to the press section only.
Copying of other sources should be allowed only in the case when it is used to strengthen a certain point of view, but in that case the correct citation should be used, as Rikafip has already said.

If I were the moderator, I would remove posts like this according to the 'low value' rule.
legendary
Activity: 1680
Merit: 6524
Fully-fledged Merit Cycler|Spambuster'23|Pie Baker
Hopefully, if mods would see more users reporting such posts, they won't leave them unhandled anymore. I have a few hundreds of such reports left unhandled forever, as they were reported more than 30 days ago and I can't see them anymore. And, as far as I know, mods don't see them anymore as well if they were reported more than 30 days ago.
At best, examples provided be @Coolcryptovator  should be seen as low value posts, and imho, should be dealt accordingly, and in this came it means deleting such posts. No personal comment on topic, just c/p pieces of articles. All we need is army of newbies sharing articles and getting away with it. Who knows, maybe then we would see some change.

A similar subject was also discussed in Nina Lyon's topic where she was questioning why CoinIdol was banned (yes, lol). At some point, hilariousetc said that in his opinion Press board should be locked. I totally agree with him. We can avoid a lot of such spam if that board is closed.


As far as I see, mods take action when such shillings (spam) are done by low ranked members, but tend to tolerate the posts made by users with higher ranks, although I don't understand why.
Well that sucks if that's really the case. You would expect something like that from newbies, but higher ranking member should know better. Low value post is low value, no matter who wrote it, or in this case copied

Oh well...take a look at this picture Smiley

legendary
Activity: 2128
Merit: 1775
User bitcoinst has drawn my attention today,
I often see members post like that, most of them are too lazy and have more than 1-2 accounts that they manage, posts like that are super fast alternatives.

If you don't believe, just look below:

1. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.55204715
bc1qs3mcfmyak58df3stt4ldf58qta7u8pyakvx5rq

2. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.55267545
bc1qs3mcfmyak58df3stt4ldf58qta7u8pyakvx5rq

Account Alt he also did the same post and I think @bitcoinst, a trader outside this forum: he sells watches And also the iPhone 6s Gold

That's what happens when managing multiple accounts to cover post sig.
legendary
Activity: 2072
Merit: 4265
✿♥‿♥✿
User bitcoinst from Russian local section. There are rules written in black and white that say:


7. Cooбщeния дoлжны быть opигинaльными. "Haбивaниe" кoличecтвa cooбщeний cдeлaнныx пo пpинципy кoпи-пacтa c дpyгoгo pecypca нeдoпycтимo. Пoдoбныe cooбщeния пoдпaдaют пoд пepвый пyнкт пpaвил.


Unfortunately, in the English section, I did not find amendments to such rules.
This is a very common occurrence, which clearly indicates the cunning of those who write such posts. The Internet is open, anyone can find any information on the web, but this should not be the rule for creating messages in subscription companies.

We all understand the subtext with which such messages are created. If this is taken for messages of low quality, in this case, informing the moderators will be absolutely correct.
legendary
Activity: 1722
Merit: 5937
Hopefully, if mods would see more users reporting such posts, they won't leave them unhandled anymore. I have a few hundreds of such reports left unhandled forever, as they were reported more than 30 days ago and I can't see them anymore. And, as far as I know, mods don't see them anymore as well if they were reported more than 30 days ago.
+1

At best, examples provided be @Coolcryptovator  should be seen as low value posts, and imho, should be dealt accordingly, and in this came it means deleting such posts. No personal comment on topic, just c/p pieces of articles. All we need is army of newbies sharing articles and getting away with it. Who knows, maybe then we would see some change.


As far as I see, mods take action when such shillings (spam) are done by low ranked members, but tend to tolerate the posts made by users with higher ranks, although I don't understand why.
Well that sucks if that's really the case. You would expect something like that from newbies, but higher ranking member should know better. Low value post is low value, no matter who wrote it, or in this case copied.


I think its time to add a new rule to the signature campaigns, like when someone wants to add an article or any other news content should be included inside tags

Code:
 [quote]....... article or anything which taken from other websites....[/quote] 
so it won't be counted towards the number of characters needed for that post to become eligible.
This rule should be introduced not just for signature campaigns, but for posting in general. Verbatim copying should be inside quotation marks, since bitcointalk has very strict stance towards plagiarism, and that is generally seen as such (not here though).


Wrong, if someone isn't breaking forum rules somehow then moderators will not take any action. It doesn't matter if a thousand user reports against him, still report will be unhandled.
Rule nr 1

1. No zero or low value, pointless or uninteresting posts or threads.

What's the value of the post if you just copy everything, without providing any personal comment?  That way I can share news about just about anything, without knowing squat about the subject.
legendary
Activity: 2394
Merit: 2223
Signature space for rent
~Snip~
Thanks for your opinion, hope more users/campaign participants will be aware of theses kind posting behavior.

I think its time to add a new rule to the signature campaigns, like when someone wants to add an article or any other news content should be included inside tags
Nah, it doesn't necessarily add such as new rules. There are already rules "spam post has not been counting by any managers" especially on bitcoin campaign. The post would be low quality and sometimes manager considers counting. But fully copy-pasted without own thoughts is pure spam. Even you are posting it on press section should not badly be copy-pasted. Either you should post only a link or post in between quotes.

Besides, these posts should be reported. Hopefully, if mods would see more users reporting such posts, they won't leave them unhandled anymore.
Wrong, if someone isn't breaking forum rules somehow then moderators will not take any action. It doesn't matter if a thousand user reports against him, still report will be unhandled.
legendary
Activity: 1680
Merit: 6524
Fully-fledged Merit Cycler|Spambuster'23|Pie Baker
That's up to each campaign's set of rules. You can't force managers to adopt such a rule. But it would be common sense that such posts shouldn't be counted as eligible for the campaign. Besides, these posts should be reported. Hopefully, if mods would see more users reporting such posts, they won't leave them unhandled anymore. I have a few hundreds of such reports left unhandled forever, as they were reported more than 30 days ago and I can't see them anymore. And, as far as I know, mods don't see them anymore as well if they were reported more than 30 days ago.
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