Topic: Bitcointalk mixer ban, Altcointalk is active in that scope. - page 3. (Read 1085 times)

I doubt it if people actually leave this forum in favor of the other forum, we all know how multi-accounters work, they would go there to do some  meaningless garbage posting while having an open tab on here, then they can leech off both forums, milking the essence of life out of both forums. The campaign managers should observe that forum and identify who is participating on both sites, we already know a few of them. They shouldn't be allowed here if they are over there getting paid.😉

The user base has been built on the strong foundation that in this forum you can get paid very well for writing. There are people living off this forum in third world countries. And for people from developed countries it is a good extra income. In the few forums I know where you can earn a few bucks, the pay is much lower than in this one. If signatures are totally banned from this one and go elsewhere, most of the userbase will leave.This has been talked about ad nauseam on the forum and I think the general consensus is what I am saying.

Traffic will surely go down but I don't think it won't be as bad since bitcointalk has built its userbase over the years + it ranks well in search results.


Who knows, it could be temporary. I honestly think it's pretty likely that they will start considering following bitcointalk's steps if they get into authorities' radar-- you know, like being mentioned on their website or something.

Well, the thing about this is one thing that had been talked about in the past about the assumption of a global ban on signatures: that the traffic would go elsewhere. In this case, it happens partially, if the mixer campaigns go to shitcointalks.com part of the traffic will go from here to there, but I think not much, because here the remaining campaigns will still pay more. Although it is a warning of what could happen in the future in the face of more restrictions: that more traffic will continue to be lost in favor of other sites.

Casinos are still doing signature campaigns here and I would say that there's a possibility that this can happen but given how active the forum is, it's unlikely that it's going to lose a lot of members, maybe lose some people active on different boards but definitely not going to be in any kind of total disappearance, maybe you're too focused on signature campaigns that you think it's mostly the only reason why people are active here.
No you're not, if the opportunity presented to you to join a campaign here, you would've get into it, don't lie about that. At the least you're honest about that one yourself so yeah. But there's definitely some people here that don't care about signature campaigns, they're only a few so you don't see them a lot and so you think that no one like that exists.

That won't be the case I think, exchanges and crypto casinos are still doing some campaigns here and there's probably projects out there in the future that will use the forum as a platform to promote their services or whatever.

Altcoinstalk is within US jurisdiction based on this data and if there's a warning they can also impose on their forum what Theymos did, it's still up to the administrator how to decide if the mixers promotions start on altcoinstalk but since the site's domain registrar is GoDaddy they are compliant to US terms.

https://altcoinstalks.com.webstatdata.com/

Have you discovered that the altcoinstalks you're talking about is never being active until the campaign managers are taking their awareness job to the platform in other for them to continue with their business, how many people will find it more interesting even after when there's no signature campaign anymore to participate in there, bitcointalk here is a home for all, it's not only about our campaign participation that matters most, we are all bitcoiners that are always interested about bitcoin discussion, you can see a number of people being active on bitcointalk without having being participated in any signature campaign, this is all about passion for what you have invested on which is bitcoin itself.

Interacting through forums is very addictive just like posting what's on your mind on Facebook so those who are active whether they have a signature or not will continue to post but those who want to be incentivized will not post frequently but there are still signature campaigns it's not alarming for the forum, activity will be the same.

The altcointalk campaign is experimental we will see in the coming months how the forum performs and can the mixers create a brand through that forum and attract more users and will altcointalk will be their forum platform.

Because the BRICS nations have better data protection laws than the US, most private websites are hosted outside of US jurisdictions, at least in my experience.

Yes. 99%

You're right altcoinstalks is very active now but I don't know if the forum was inactive before however the growth it sees after the mixer campaigns moved there is very high. Not only one but two professional campaign managers have running campaigns on that forum that's because they have open-handedly accepted the mixers on their platform. The mixers had to move somewhere to advertise their services and that's why they moved there because from 1st Jan 2024 they aren't allowed to advertise their services on this forum.

I believe it's the first time when someone has launched signature campaigns on that forum and in initial days I believe the pay is still fine. With the passage of time and growth of the forum the pay may get higher. The pay of the mixer based campaigns was also low a few months ago on Bitcointalk but in current times when mixers aren't yet banned, some users are getting around $250 a week for participating in those campaigns.

This is a stupid question. Why Altcointalk wasn't active a few days ago? The answer is simple. There were no signature campaigns that paid a good amount of money. Why it's becoming active again? Because there are some campaigns. Of course, the market economy helps forums to remain active. Do you think everyone writes for money? NO. Not everyone. Moreover, even when people write for money, sometimes they add value to your thread. It's easy to find who is writing for money only and who is not. When you see people write only on some specific boards where their campaigns ask to post, (Gambling for example) it's understandable why they do not show any interest on the other side of the forum.

Fair enough, but what makes you believe that? Are all those very liberal countries known for their freedom of speech (especially Russia and China lol) or some other reason that makes you believe that?


Are they maybe hosted in BRICS countries?

Op I got my 100% knowledge about Bitcoin from the Bitcointalk forum. There are two things every users have to do here in the forum. One is to learn what you don't know, and that means you don't know cryptocurrency (Bitcoin) so you are here to learn and when you known then you start to educate or contribute to knowledge and when you have contributed to knowledge for people to appreciate then you rank up and if you want to join  signature campaign to contribute you are free because it is your knowledge. The world now is rule by knowledge.

And what you said that everyone profile has signature code is wrong. JJG is a reputable user in the forum and he is contributing every day yet he is not in any campaign. And not everyone has the ambition you have in the forum. Some are just here to educate others about Bitcoin. Well the banning of Mixers has made AltcoinsTalks to grow well but that will never affect the activeness of Bitcointalk forum. If you check the total number of active threads in beginners and help board in the two forums, you will confirm that Bitcointalk is far active than the AltcoinsTalks. There are some days AltcoinsTalks has only 4 threads for the whole day but in Bitcointalk it enter two pages.

I continue to believe that sites hosted on BRICS servers are more safe and provide more freedom. Reasons why most DEXs and casinos are not hosted in the U.S jurisdictions.

Where was the old Satoshi forum hosted before moving to the new software? Curious to know


Nothing as such, the forum is well run and safer. I'm a moderator so I know facts

Agreed, he should call for fast delivery instead, walking down the streets is dangerous. Lol.

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Someone recently claimed they have used the same password on that forum and they got hacked here, apparently that forum is run by thieves, though that claim needs more investigation. Time for sheriff to get to work. so chop chop.😂 

Whether anyone agrees or not it doesn't change the fact that the altcointalk traffic can't be compared to half the traffic of bitcointalk community has despite mixers now operating in the altcointalk with members here teleporting over there.

There's an adage in my local parlance that says, "if you are big, you are big", so bitcointalk is a big active community and in as much as Bitcoin sits as the leading cryptocurrencies anything associated with altcoin will always have the status of altcoin in the face of bitcoin in extension to bitcointalk forum.

Even with the signature campaigns allowed day-in and day-out people are still leaving the forum and that is how new people are also trooping in too, maybe as a newbie you are ignorant of that, do your research about it.

About everyone having a signature code, that's isn't entirely true, not everyone in the forum is with a signature campaign code still they are happily contributing their knowledge to the forum. AFAIK, signature only serve as a motivation to frequently be active 24/7.

If you're observant you will without been told know that the attack on mixer that led to it's proposed ban in bitcointalk from 1st January 2024 is an attack targeted on bitcoin of which this forum has been instrumental to bitcoin popularity.  Else why is the government not having issues with mixers been continually advertised on altcointalk but are against it been continued on bitcointalk.?

Read the writing on the wall mate, the attack is indirectly on BTC popularity and not just about mixers.

Of course not, my guesstimate is that in case of signature campain (and bounty campaign) ban. bitcointalk traffic would go down at least 90%, maybe even more. Everyone is aware of that (forum staff included), therefore I don't think that there is a big possibility of that happening.


Given their stance on bitcoin and freedom of speech in general, imho it would be even worse (e.g, people from Russia have to use VPN in order to access bitcointalk as its banned there) if site was histed in BRICS countries.

thyemos' mistake was messing with his privacy and location; I had no idea he was going down a street in the U.S buying McDonald's. I used to think he was the closest thing to Satoshi in terms of privacy, but I was wrong.

If only the site was hosted on one of BRICS servers. Who knows.

This discussion has been had many times before, but you probably aren't aware of that unless your account is an alt of an older member, which I'd put the odds at 50/50 of being the case, probably better.

Were there any mixer campaigns prior to Chipmixer?  I can't recall there being any, just ones for various exchanges, casinos and the like.  In any case, any forum can do what they like.  Theymos could probably even decide to allow discussion and promotion of mixers if he wanted to, but he doesn't.  That doesn't mean bitcointalk is going to suddenly become a ghost town, and I can tell you with near 100% certainty that just because altcointalk became active (I'm not sure I've even heard of them) and that mixer campaigns are going away that this forum's going down the tubes.  This place is the place to discuss the king of all kings when it comes to cryptocurrency.

Now then, how many of these BS topics by apparent newcomers are we going to get?

Hell yes.  Pretty much everything I've ever learned about crypto has come from bitcointalk.  Most members are indeed here to earn money, but there are a lot of people in campaigns or not in them who are willing to answer questions for anyone who asks and to start threads on hot topics concerning bitcoin.  It's a great place to get a feel of the bitcoin world and the people in it.

This would not improve any legal safety for Bitcointalk unless theymos himself also moved outside U.S. jurisdiction. What is stopping law enforcement from forcing him to hand over database access and/or records from the "off-shore" servers, in the event they come for questioning or arrest?