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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on April 30, 2020, 01:21:05 PM

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So hope remains for Umar Akmal. Perhaps he can also resume his career, similar to Amir.

I was listening Ramiz raja, he was saying that Pakistan need parliamentary law regarding match fixing and last i heard PCB already trying to do something similar. If it happens then Akmal got %ucked, otherwise he has some chances.

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Quote from: JSRAW on April 29, 2020, 02:25:34 PM

Ban in fixing scandals simply means ban from all form of the cricket.

Same thingy happened with Amir, Shakib, Sreesanth(His career got rekt due to this) etc. Steve/Warner case was different but they still they didn't get any chance to play in IPL.

Yeah.. I remember what happened with Mohammad Amir. He was banned in 2010 for five years. He was not allowed to play any domestic cricket from 2010 to 2015. He returned to the domestic circuit in 2015, and then played his first match for Pakistan (after the ban) in 2016. So hope remains for Umar Akmal. Perhaps he can also resume his career, similar to Amir.

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Quote from: Indymoney on April 28, 2020, 01:05:53 PM

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Yup..

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Quote from: JSRAW on April 28, 2020, 12:59:57 PM

That's how ban works in the cricket, players can't do anything except practicing on their own. he's from Lahore, Punjab so chances are he represent his local team in domestic level.

This is not the first time that PCB is banning someone for corruption charges. But the difference is that in earlier occasions, the players were banned only from the national team. They were allowed to take part in domestic cricket, as well as in English county cricket (please correct me in case I am wrong). Even in the case of Steve Smith/David Warner, they were allowed to take part in the T20 leagues.

Ban in fixing scandals simply means ban from all form of the cricket.

Same thingy happened with Amir, Shakib, Sreesanth(His career got rekt due to this) etc. Steve/Warner case was different but they still they didn't get any chance to play in IPL.

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Quote from: JSRAW on April 28, 2020, 12:59:57 PM

That's how ban works in the cricket, players can't do anything except practicing on their own. he's from Lahore, Punjab so chances are he represent his local team in domestic level.

This is not the first time that PCB is banning someone for corruption charges. But the difference is that in earlier occasions, the players were banned only from the national team. They were allowed to take part in domestic cricket, as well as in English county cricket (please correct me in case I am wrong). Even in the case of Steve Smith/David Warner, they were allowed to take part in the T20 leagues.

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Quote from: JSRAW on April 28, 2020, 12:59:57 PM

Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on April 28, 2020, 12:46:13 PM

Quote from: JSRAW on April 27, 2020, 05:04:08 PM

Its not a life ban, he might get chance in PSL after 3 years. It happened before with the other player in national team so yeah there is some possibility, unless PCB pass a new law (They are working on it, i suppose)... Good/bad Performance after ban is another discussion though.

From what I have heard, he can't even play club cricket during these 3 years. He can't take up any coaching assignments as well. Under such circumstances I don't expect him to remain focused in cricket. My opinion is that the PCB could have banned him from PSL and the national team, but could have allowed him to represent the domestic team (he plays for Central Punjab?).

That's how ban works in the cricket, players can't do anything except practicing on their own. he's from Lahore, Punjab so chances are he represent his local team in domestic level.

No chance as he ban for all domestic and international cricket so after three years may be he join any local club but right now he need to stay at home for safety and think about this all what he done with his bright future feeling sad for this and many other talented players those lost this all just because of very silly mistakes.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on April 28, 2020, 12:46:13 PM

Quote from: JSRAW on April 27, 2020, 05:04:08 PM

Its not a life ban, he might get chance in PSL after 3 years. It happened before with the other player in national team so yeah there is some possibility, unless PCB pass a new law (They are working on it, i suppose)... Good/bad Performance after ban is another discussion though.

From what I have heard, he can't even play club cricket during these 3 years. He can't take up any coaching assignments as well. Under such circumstances I don't expect him to remain focused in cricket. My opinion is that the PCB could have banned him from PSL and the national team, but could have allowed him to represent the domestic team (he plays for Central Punjab?).

That's how ban works in the cricket, players can't do anything except practicing on their own. he's from Lahore, Punjab so chances are he represent his local team in domestic level.

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Quote from: JSRAW on April 27, 2020, 05:04:08 PM

Its not a life ban, he might get chance in PSL after 3 years. It happened before with the other player in national team so yeah there is some possibility, unless PCB pass a new law (They are working on it, i suppose)... Good/bad Performance after ban is another discussion though.

From what I have heard, he can't even play club cricket during these 3 years. He can't take up any coaching assignments as well. Under such circumstances I don't expect him to remain focused in cricket. My opinion is that the PCB could have banned him from PSL and the national team, but could have allowed him to represent the domestic team (he plays for Central Punjab?).

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Quote from: Indymoney on April 27, 2020, 11:07:54 AM

Quote from: JSRAW on April 27, 2020, 08:28:43 AM

Quote from: AB de Royse777 on April 27, 2020, 08:15:13 AM

Quote from: JSRAW on April 27, 2020, 08:09:19 AM

Update on Akmal's case... here goes his T-20 World Cup dream.

That sucks for Akmal and it's for saying this?

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" Where is the fat? "

It seems the less they talk the better for them :-P

Three years ban is a long period of time for an inform cricketer. I think Shakib Al Hasan is banned for 2 years.

Akmal was lost cause anyway, as far as i read about him... Talented but unprofessional cricketer.

I think Shakib got lucky here, there is no Cricket happening anyway so it doesn't matter if he's ban lol. yeah 2 years and his ban ending timeline is Oct 2020.

This is perfect for Umar becasue his behavior is relly unprofessional sometime this happen if a person have some good respect and money he lost his own control so this happen to Umar many local incedents related with him.

He's not alone though, Many Pakistani cricketers has a tremendous talent of #ucking everything up with their stupidity.

Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on April 27, 2020, 11:57:16 AM

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OMG!!! This is really shocking. Umar Akmal is just 29 years old and he is at his prime now. A three year ban would possibly mean the end of his career. Only a very few cricketers have made it back to the national team, after receiving such lengthy ban. And the article says that the ban covers all forms of cricket, and not just international matches. So that's even more destructive for Akmal.

Its not a life ban, he might get chance in PSL after 3 years. It happened before with the other player in national team so yeah there is some possibility, unless PCB pass a new law (They are working on it, i suppose)... Good/bad Performance after ban is another discussion though.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on April 27, 2020, 11:57:16 AM

Quote from: JSRAW on April 27, 2020, 08:09:19 AM

Update on Akmal's case... here goes his T-20 World Cup dream.

I think After Shakib al hasan. Umer Akmal becomes 2nd international player to get ban "For not reporting about details of corrupt approach".

PCB hands Umar Akmal three-year ban from all cricket

OMG!!! This is really shocking. Umar Akmal is just 29 years old and he is at his prime now. A three year ban would possibly mean the end of his career. Only a very few cricketers have made it back to the national team, after receiving such lengthy ban. And the article says that the ban covers all forms of cricket, and not just international matches. So that's even more destructive for Akmal.

This is really sad news but Umar Akmal was never been interested in his career and its really shocking for me because I was feeling he is one of best batsman in current Pakistan squad but his attitude was really disgusting with many other players and officials hopefully now he will learn from this and try to change this all.

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Quote from: JSRAW on April 27, 2020, 08:09:19 AM

Update on Akmal's case... here goes his T-20 World Cup dream.

I think After Shakib al hasan. Umer Akmal becomes 2nd international player to get ban "For not reporting about details of corrupt approach".

PCB hands Umar Akmal three-year ban from all cricket

OMG!!! This is really shocking. Umar Akmal is just 29 years old and he is at his prime now. A three year ban would possibly mean the end of his career. Only a very few cricketers have made it back to the national team, after receiving such lengthy ban. And the article says that the ban covers all forms of cricket, and not just international matches. So that's even more destructive for Akmal.

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Quote from: JSRAW on April 27, 2020, 08:28:43 AM

Quote from: AB de Royse777 on April 27, 2020, 08:15:13 AM

Quote from: JSRAW on April 27, 2020, 08:09:19 AM

Update on Akmal's case... here goes his T-20 World Cup dream.

That sucks for Akmal and it's for saying this?

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" Where is the fat? "

It seems the less they talk the better for them :-P

Three years ban is a long period of time for an inform cricketer. I think Shakib Al Hasan is banned for 2 years.

Akmal was lost cause anyway, as far as i read about him... Talented but unprofessional cricketer.

I think Shakib got lucky here, there is no Cricket happening anyway so it doesn't matter if he's ban lol. yeah 2 years and his ban ending timeline is Oct 2020.

This is perfect for Umar becasue his behavior is relly unprofessional sometime this happen if a person have some good respect and money he lost his own control so this happen to Umar many local incedents related with him.

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Quote from: AB de Royse777 on April 27, 2020, 08:15:13 AM

Quote from: JSRAW on April 27, 2020, 08:09:19 AM

Update on Akmal's case... here goes his T-20 World Cup dream.

That sucks for Akmal and it's for saying this?

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" Where is the fat? "

It seems the less they talk the better for them :-P

Three years ban is a long period of time for an inform cricketer. I think Shakib Al Hasan is banned for 2 years.

Akmal was lost cause anyway, as far as i read about him... Talented but unprofessional cricketer.

I think Shakib got lucky here, there is no Cricket happening anyway so it doesn't matter if he's ban lol. yeah 2 years and his ban ending timeline is Oct 2020.

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Quote from: JSRAW on April 27, 2020, 08:09:19 AM

Quote from: JSRAW on February 20, 2020, 06:37:27 AM

Bad news for Quetta Gladiators. Umar Akmal facing suspension may be because his inappropriate behavior during the fitness test where he said " Where is the fat? " and misbehaved with the officials. PCB didn't mentioned exact reason but dude is real troublemaker ...

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Umar Akmal's timeline of trouble

Feb 2020 - Reprimanded for inappropriate behaviour at fitness Test

Apr 2019 - Fined for breaking team curfew in Dubai during series versus Australia

Jun 2018 - Served notice to explain his comments on a television show about spot-fixing requests

Sep 2017 - Banned for his outburst on former coach Mickey Arthur, his NOCs to play foreign leagues revoked

May 2017 - Recalled from England ahead of the Champions Trophy for failing fitness Test

May 2016 - Left out of the England tour along with Ahmed Shehzad on disciplinary grounds

Jan 2016 - Banned for a T20I against New Zealand for misconduct

Nov 2015 - Left out of England T20Is for "bringing PCB into disrepute" after reportedly attending a party without permission

Feb 2014 - Charged by Lahore police for allegedly misbehaving with warden after committing a traffic violation

Oct 2012 - Fined for ignoring umpires while going for a change of gloves in a T20 against Sri Lanka

Jun 2011 - Issued show-cause notice for giving unauthorized interviews to television media

PCB suspends Umar Akmal under anti-corruption code

Update on Akmal's case... here goes his T-20 World Cup dream.

I think After Shakib al hasan. Umer Akmal becomes 2nd international player to get ban "For not reporting about details of corrupt approach".

PCB hands Umar Akmal three-year ban from all cricket

This is not the good news for Pakistan players and the country as he was looked upon and a role model for many of the upcoming future cricketing stars. This hurts not only to them personally but also to the cricket. Such things just keep the cricket away from the good players as now for next 3 years we would not see him. Also we do not know how things hold for him and for the team after 3 years.

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Quote from: JSRAW on April 27, 2020, 08:09:19 AM

Update on Akmal's case... here goes his T-20 World Cup dream.

That sucks for Akmal and it's for saying this?

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" Where is the fat? "

It seems the less they talk the better for them :-P

Three years ban is a long period of time for an inform cricketer. I think Shakib Al Hasan is banned for 2 years.

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Quote from: JSRAW on February 20, 2020, 06:37:27 AM

Bad news for Quetta Gladiators. Umar Akmal facing suspension may be because his inappropriate behavior during the fitness test where he said " Where is the fat? " and misbehaved with the officials. PCB didn't mentioned exact reason but dude is real troublemaker ...

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Umar Akmal's timeline of trouble

Feb 2020 - Reprimanded for inappropriate behaviour at fitness Test

Apr 2019 - Fined for breaking team curfew in Dubai during series versus Australia

Jun 2018 - Served notice to explain his comments on a television show about spot-fixing requests

Sep 2017 - Banned for his outburst on former coach Mickey Arthur, his NOCs to play foreign leagues revoked

May 2017 - Recalled from England ahead of the Champions Trophy for failing fitness Test

May 2016 - Left out of the England tour along with Ahmed Shehzad on disciplinary grounds

Jan 2016 - Banned for a T20I against New Zealand for misconduct

Nov 2015 - Left out of England T20Is for "bringing PCB into disrepute" after reportedly attending a party without permission

Feb 2014 - Charged by Lahore police for allegedly misbehaving with warden after committing a traffic violation

Oct 2012 - Fined for ignoring umpires while going for a change of gloves in a T20 against Sri Lanka

Jun 2011 - Issued show-cause notice for giving unauthorized interviews to television media

PCB suspends Umar Akmal under anti-corruption code

Update on Akmal's case... here goes his T-20 World Cup dream.

I think After Shakib al hasan. Umer Akmal becomes 2nd international player to get ban "For not reporting about details of corrupt approach".

PCB hands Umar Akmal three-year ban from all cricket

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Quote from: BitSat19 on April 24, 2020, 01:52:01 PM

You are absolutely right these things need some good time for more interest because its just for fun and entertainment if we have no long break then surely we will lost some good charm and interest from crowd even its very important in developed countries where they have very strong system.

My point was that, the PSL 2020 was a monumental success. A lot of hype was generated, as the matches were being played in Pakistan. There was a lot of coverage from media around the world. But now it will be difficult to repeat that all over again, just for three matches. And worse still, if they do so then it can have a negative impact on the next year's edition.

My request to the PCB is that they should rather concentrate on PSL 2021.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on April 24, 2020, 07:39:31 AM

Quote from: UmerIdrees on April 22, 2020, 01:14:42 PM

Why do we need a break of 10 - 12 months after playing just 3 matches ? This logic is just illogical Cool

The question can be modified, to something like this: "Would you like to have another edition of the PSL, 3-4 months after the finals and semi-finals of the previous edition?"

It's not about the number of matches. A lot of hype will be generated, as these are the most important matches in the tournament. And after so much hype it will be very difficult to redo all that in just a few months.

You are absolutely right these things need some good time for more interest because its just for fun and entertainment if we have no long break then surely we will lost some good charm and interest from crowd even its very important in developed countries where they have very strong system.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on April 22, 2020, 01:14:42 PM

Why do we need a break of 10 - 12 months after playing just 3 matches ? This logic is just illogical Cool

The question can be modified, to something like this: "Would you like to have another edition of the PSL, 3-4 months after the finals and semi-finals of the previous edition?"

It's not about the number of matches. A lot of hype will be generated, as these are the most important matches in the tournament. And after so much hype it will be very difficult to redo all that in just a few months.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on April 22, 2020, 01:14:42 PM

Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on April 21, 2020, 11:13:18 AM

Quote from: UmerIdrees on April 21, 2020, 03:48:13 AM

Just wondering how can this spoil the momentum of PSL 2021 ?

The same argument came up in the IPL discussion thread as well.

Here is my logic - if the PCB conduct the remaining 3-4 matches during the end of this year, then it can have a negative impact on next year's edition. The viewers need a break of at least 10-12 months. Else the tournament may look repetitive for them. It will be better for the PCB to call off these matches, to avoid this repetitiveness.

Why do we need a break of 10 - 12 months after playing just 3 matches ? This logic is just illogical Cool

Quote from: BitSat19 on April 21, 2020, 04:00:25 PM

Today I was watching one sports channel and PCB representative was very serious about this they want to complete this in next few months even they can still do some things but he was not going with any option other then completion of this event in next few months most chances before Twenty/20 world cup.

No, nothing will happen with this seriousness or eagerness to conduct the remaining matches. Until the virus is completely locked down, only then the matches can be held.

In Australia and Germany we have some good news as they are doing hard work for preparing few events because they feel in next few weeks they will able to handle this all first event in Bundesliga which is going to start in May and in Australia they are also preparing for cricket matches as board feel its ok without crowd.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on April 21, 2020, 11:13:18 AM

Quote from: UmerIdrees on April 21, 2020, 03:48:13 AM

Just wondering how can this spoil the momentum of PSL 2021 ?

The same argument came up in the IPL discussion thread as well.

Here is my logic - if the PCB conduct the remaining 3-4 matches during the end of this year, then it can have a negative impact on next year's edition. The viewers need a break of at least 10-12 months. Else the tournament may look repetitive for them. It will be better for the PCB to call off these matches, to avoid this repetitiveness.

Why do we need a break of 10 - 12 months after playing just 3 matches ? This logic is just illogical Cool

Quote from: BitSat19 on April 21, 2020, 04:00:25 PM

Today I was watching one sports channel and PCB representative was very serious about this they want to complete this in next few months even they can still do some things but he was not going with any option other then completion of this event in next few months most chances before Twenty/20 world cup.

No, nothing will happen with this seriousness or eagerness to conduct the remaining matches. Until the virus is completely locked down, only then the matches can be held.

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