Bitcointalk++ script - Thoughts about votes - page 2.

BadBear

legendary

Activity: 1652

Merit: 1128

Quote from: jackjack on August 16, 2013, 10:41:12 AM

Quote from: ?? on ??

I prefer the "Hidden" option. It can be seen from the comments in the trust system that when someone gets negative feedback they often give back negative feedback. The private option would stop the tit-for-tat of -1 votes.

Another option could be to publicly show the votes from each of the member groups. This way no one can tell who voted for whom and it would help stop people gaming the system using socks. For example, the following distribution would look a little suspicious:

member123 [+5]
Brand New:   [+10, -0]
Newbie:   [+0, -0]
Jr. Member:   [+0, -0]
Member:   [+0, -0]
Full Member:   [+0, -0]
Sr. Member:   [+0, -0]
Hero Member:   [+0, -5]

I will do this. Not sure how yet but it's definitely something worth implementing.
It's not critical for now as I manually send passwords to people asking for them.

I like this idea the best, opening it will just mean more drama and fake votes from retaliation (disclosure, haven't used it yet).

jackjack

legendary

Activity: 1176

Merit: 1260

May Bitcoin be touched by his Noodly Appendage

Quote from: ?? on ??

I prefer the "Hidden" option. It can be seen from the comments in the trust system that when someone gets negative feedback they often give back negative feedback. The private option would stop the tit-for-tat of -1 votes.

Another option could be to publicly show the votes from each of the member groups. This way no one can tell who voted for whom and it would help stop people gaming the system using socks. For example, the following distribution would look a little suspicious:

member123 [+5]
Brand New:   [+10, -0]
Newbie:   [+0, -0]
Jr. Member:   [+0, -0]
Member:   [+0, -0]
Full Member:   [+0, -0]
Sr. Member:   [+0, -0]
Hero Member:   [+0, -5]

I will do this. Not sure how yet but it's definitely something worth implementing.
It's not critical for now as I manually send passwords to people asking for them.

whiskers75

hero member

Activity: 658

Merit: 502

Doesn't use these forums that often.

Division/exclusion by group is good.
Maybe weight +/-1's on rank, so someone can't register a ton of accounts to defraud a user.

(I'd just like to know who's -1'ing me.)

favdesu

legendary

Activity: 1764

Merit: 1000

Quote from: ?? on ??

I prefer the "Hidden" option. It can be seen from the comments in the trust system that when someone gets negative feedback they often give back negative feedback. The private option would stop the tit-for-tat of -1 votes.

Another option could be to publicly show the votes from each of the member groups. This way no one can tell who voted for whom and it would help stop people gaming the system using socks. For example, the following distribution would look a little suspicious:

member123 [+5]
Brand New:   [+10, -0]
Newbie:   [+0, -0]
Jr. Member:   [+0, -0]
Member:   [+0, -0]
Full Member:   [+0, -0]
Sr. Member:   [+0, -0]
Hero Member:   [+0, -5]

+1 I vote for this

jackjack

legendary

Activity: 1176

Merit: 1260

May Bitcoin be touched by his Noodly Appendage

Quote from: jackjack on August 15, 2013, 04:15:12 PM

Here are examples of what you will have access to depending on what option I'll apply

How could I even publish lists about "you" (as in "People who voted for you" and "Votes from you") anyway? Do you think my post is modified depending on the person who is viewing my post?

I'll be clearer though as it looks like it's necessary: those lists are fake, they are examples

narayan

member

Activity: 98

Merit: 10

I do not sell Bitcoins. I sell SHA256(SHA256()).

Wow so you violate the privacy of those who use your script by posting their votes to demonstrate?

jackjack

legendary

Activity: 1176

Merit: 1260

May Bitcoin be touched by his Noodly Appendage

Here are examples of what you will have access to depending on what option I'll apply
Hope this will answer your question

All

Quote from: People who voted for jackjack (or anybody else)

satoshi +1
infested999 -1
...

Quote from: Votes from jackjack (or anybody else)

theymos +1
BadBear -1
...

Quote from: People who voted for you

sirius +1
Atlas -1
...

Quote from: Votes from you

MPOE-PR +1
John -1
...

Related to you

Quote from: People who voted for you

sirius +1
Atlas -1
...

Quote from: Votes from you

MPOE-PR +1
John -1
...

None

Quote from: Votes from you

MPOE-PR +1
John -1
...

Hidden

Quote from: Votes from 0713a376c0815ead1d6ef38bb567b4b224fc549fc1ddf83093daecc0fd048ba7

theymos +1
you +1
BadBear -1
...

Quote from: Votes from dfd9ea718bd07cf3559f0ecb7bd8cdcd7aa3fc2aa41f805adbd785fbeebcf1a0

greyhawk+1
tysat -1
you -1
...

Quote from: People who voted for jackjack (or anybody else)

c3f8ef7053c4fb306f7476e7d1956f0aa992ff9dfdd5244b912a1d377ff3a84f +1
4cc250c23c885cdfd10603bfde782534be29a4e474829234b69929526138fc26 -1
...

Quote from: People who voted for you

0713a376c0815ead1d6ef38bb567b4b224fc549fc1ddf83093daecc0fd048ba7 +1
dfd9ea718bd07cf3559f0ecb7bd8cdcd7aa3fc2aa41f805adbd785fbeebcf1a0 -1
...

Quote from: Votes from you

MPOE-PR +1
John -1
...

infested999

hero member

Activity: 854

Merit: 500

Does in any way mean that people can look up what other people have voted? For example will there ever be a list of people who gave "jackjack" a +1?

jackjack

legendary

Activity: 1176

Merit: 1260

May Bitcoin be touched by his Noodly Appendage

Looks like people don't agree on this matter

Before you vote, please keep in mind that:

You can't choose which account you "trust" like in theymos' trust system: everybody see the sum of all votes from everybody. (for now, it may change if there's enough demand)
Drawback of "All": people you rated -1 could rate you -1 too
Drawback of "None": I am the only one to have access to the votes and could manipulate them
I'll "ban" (not sure how yet) people abusing the system (like voting -1 for everybody) whatever the result is

Comment/explain/etc as much as you want in this thread
Full disclosure: I voted "Hidden"

Note that I don't state I will implement the chosen behaviour, it's just to know what people would prefer

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