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Topic: BitCom was intentional, p2p msg was desperation, Dorian is a genius mastermind - page 2. (Read 3726 times)

legendary
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Not really, using your real name makes you easier to track down doofus

imagine the creator of bitcoin was screename barack obama, we all speculated who barack obama saying no way he's the POTUS who made bitcoin. (JUST LIKE WE NEVER EXPECTED SATOSHI TO BE NAMED SATOSHI IN REAL LIFE)

One day a journalist tracks down all the info and it leads to barack obama the POTUS, Barack obama is confronted and he's like lmao what is Bitcom , i never communicated with it, WTF i'm the POTUS how i have time to make BitCom.

Then he goes to his oval office, smirks at the window and laughs at us all. Yes it's a brilliant cover and a perfect war game a genius can come up with.

The difference is Obama is no genius
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZTbOMzOlpI
legendary
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i laugh at most people thinking the bitcoin creator is some omnipresent being, all seing all knowing character that knows everything.

the bitcoin creator knows c++ and maths. not maths of the 1960's but modern maths. with his british education it shows that he cant be a 60+yo american. logs show that the bitcoin creator does not know so much about linux. so ill say it now and repeat later. the bitcoin  creator is not some 500+IQ god.

dorian did not mis understand bitcoin as a act of smart planning. he done it coz dorian does not know bitcoins and he thought it was a project he was involved in when working for the government in 2001. he did not realise that its a whole different project from 2008+

your opinion that he done the misunderstandings is based on your personal belief that the bitcoin creator is a god.

its  well known fact that the bitcoin creator was not great at linux programming and other things, this is why other people like gavin andresen and others helped the bitcoin creator to make the protocol, basd on the creators white paper.

no 60+yo guy with bad english would firstly write a white paper, and secondly write it in great quality british wording.

stop thinking the bitcoin creator is a 500 IQ god, as you start to think dorian is a liar because of your self belief that dorian is a genius hiding in a frail old man's body.

white papers are not for old working/retired men. they are for college geeks trying to make a name for themselves.

the white paper, irc chat logs and forum posts have more evidence that satoshi is not any more then 40yo from personality studies. looking at dorians blogs, and other public information the two styles of writings do not match.

again the bitcoin creator and dorian only have two things in common
1. their name
2. the fact that they are not 500+IQ gods.

yes bitcoin creator invented bitcoin. yes dorian programmed a few systems but that does not make them gods, or the same person.

hero member
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To the moon!
I'm trying to use Ockham's razor and don't over thinking. Maybe more will come soon...
newbie
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I think Dorian got spooked when the media point him out as Satoshi because the statement is too definitive; he wants to tied to the project somewhat but wants to remain murky.  Whether Dorian is the creator nor not, I think he realized the possible negativity the fame could bring and therefore denied everything.

I think he realised that a long long time ago.
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He wouldn't be the first one to do something great and then avoid credit; only to secretly want to be "found out" someday.  Think about how people make secret donations to charities and then get outed.  How can anyone truly cut all ties with the possibility of receiving credit for their work?  I think Dorian got spooked when the media point him out as Satoshi because the statement is too definitive; he wants to tied to the project somewhat but wants to remain murky.  Whether Dorian is the creator nor not, I think he realized the possible negativity the fame could bring and therefore denied everything.      Who the creator really is and what he intends to do with the genesis blocks is part of the mystique of bitcoins and therefore I personally do not care to find out the creator anytime soon.
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also look at his face, he was having lots of fun
sr. member
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The whole thing is really weird

- Police confirms he was talking about bitcoin
- First public speak was a "free lunch" ( typical libertarian expression )
- Real satoshi speaks out after so many time
- what OP said

 Then he is on the cover of a magazine, several reporters on his door, and sill don't knoe what bitcoin is??? Unlikely.
ar9
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Any lengths to hide himself?  Including using his real name?

in a way, couldn't that be the brilliance of it all ?

LOL
You're reaching buddy.
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Giga
Any lengths to hide himself?  Including using his real name?

in a way, couldn't that be the brilliance of it all ?
Stop with this nonsense. That message was posted while he was having the interview if I'm correct (If I'm not my bad, I apologize).
Next assumptions: He has a backup man who can access his accounts..
Seriously, people, stop.

Lauda, you can't say this any louder than that  Wink

That being said, these people have no idea what kind of trouble they are bringing on Dorian.

Well, the least they could do is donate: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/andreas-antonopolous-raising-funds-for-dorian-nakamoto-505581

 

i highly doubt Dorian wants or needs Donations.
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Any lengths to hide himself?  Including using his real name?

in a way, couldn't that be the brilliance of it all ?
Stop with this nonsense. That message was posted while he was having the interview if I'm correct (If I'm not my bad, I apologize).
Next assumptions: He has a backup man who can access his accounts..
Seriously, people, stop.

Lauda, you can't say this any louder than that  Wink

That being said, these people have no idea what kind of trouble they are bringing on Dorian.

Well, the least they could do is donate: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/andreas-antonopolous-raising-funds-for-dorian-nakamoto-505581

 
legendary
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Terminated.
Any lengths to hide himself?  Including using his real name?

in a way, couldn't that be the brilliance of it all ?
Stop with this nonsense. That message was posted while he was having the interview if I'm correct (If I'm not my bad, I apologize).
Next assumption: He has a backup man who can access his accounts..
Seriously, people, stop.
legendary
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Core dev leaves me neg feedback #abuse #political
Sorry I don't buy the double bluff idea.  Needlessly risky. 

I also don't buy the "he didn't know it would be that's popular" line.
He was smart enough not to put his real name on the original white paper.
hero member
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BitCom is an actual Telecommunications company.....

legendary
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Antifragile
Dorian's email and Satoshi's emails are on different levels.
Dorian is not our Satoshi, thank God...
legendary
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bitcoin - the aerogel of money
Somehow I dont believe the real Satoshi would use a phrase like "clear my name". not even in deception.  That phrase implies that the real Satoshi did something immoral.

If this was the real Satoshi, he would be someone who takes great pride in associating his name with bitcoin.

He would have used a phrase like "clarify things"
legendary
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The revolution will be digital
When Dorian said "BitCom" correcting himself immediately after that, and also he said "communicating with Bitcoins", i can tell he was lying, it was so obvious he was trying to show the world that he has no idea what bitcoin is. The Media might buy his lies, but any introvert with high intelligence knows these tactics of deceit.

He is truly a genius, i expected this from the creator of Bitcoin, he is determined to keep himself anonymous till the last moment, u can tell he is an introvert and has no social skills but he's a genius who knows how to keep himself private. Introverts by nature are also master of deceit. He also is a humble man, obviously is not money hungry and likes to live the simple life, however i'm pretty sure he may have left the private keys for his kids in his will.

the p2p message was no coincidence, it was a moment of "desperation" for Dorian Satoshi who'd go to any lengths to hide himself.

You just took away my word. I was about to post it along with a poll. Dorian is the one I want as real Nakamoto. A true genius who is down to earth.
hero member
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Everybody knows Al Gore invented Bitcoin.

That's it... I'm super serial...
sr. member
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Giga
I'm starting to lean towards Dorian = Satoshi = media trolling genius mastermind

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjkY__9C6f0&t=0m53s

Apparently he's saying something like he doesn't speak English -- only using russian and german to do it.  I like this guy.

I'm leaning towards the media trolling genius mastermind idea too.

i also noticed his non-english responses, wasn't sure why he wasn't speaking english although one of the reporters could've been asking him in a foreign language (russian maybe?) One of them was also talking to him in Japanese.

sr. member
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Giga
Any lengths to hide himself?  Including using his real name?

Using his real name is a genius move, a classic double-bluff. Nobody would expect a smart person like Satoshi to make such a mistake.
Thus nobody will think it's him even when he is found.
 Grin Grin Grin

exactly, well said.
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I'm not really sure what to think about this all. Even Andreas Antonopoulos is not really sure about it. On his reddit post he said:
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I have no idea if this person is Satoshi, though it seems increasingly unlikely. However, it doesn't matter either way. If this person is Satoshi, then the funds are a small "thanks" and won't make much of a difference.

The thing that Satoshi did post on P2PF and didn't even take the time to post his PGP or any other proof that it's him talking, makes me think that it was a fast move, because he didn't have time. And time is what Dorian doesn't have right now, because of all the media at his house.

Or someone with limited capacity to type such as Hal Finney
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