Topic: BitDroneStore - Buy Drones with Bitcoin (Read 10930 times)

oh dear well it should be locked then no?

The website turned into a scam. Sorry mate.

Do you have any of the ones where you can watch in goggles?

This website was a scam. It is closed. A mod should lock this thread.

i want this one https://store.dji.com/product/spreading-wings-s1000-plus-a2-zenmuse-z15-5d-iii-hd
can you ship to Pakistan also escrow accepted ?

There is actually a thread on drone footage by devthedev here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ask-questions-and-share-your-bebop-drone-footage-here-920235
I think he wouldn't mind discussion other drones on there.

Yes, absolutely. I also dont see many people recommending phantoms for (high speed) FPV flying/racing. They are also mostly flying camera's, but at least nothing prevents you from installing an analog FPV transmitter and considering the quite decent flight controller,  the support for acro mode and a traditional transmitter,  you *could* do some FPV acro/racing with one if you really wanted to. Hardly the best use for it, but its not as impossible as with a bebop.


If you are looking for a flying camera that automatically follows you, check out the hexo+ too.


meh, site is defunct anyway, so its not like we are luring in victims, but feel free to start a new thread and link it here.

Doesn't that same argument also apply towards  DJI quads ? They also don't fly really fast, and are essentially only worth for recording .
I have been actually arguing to purchase a bebop , but the airdog looks really nice too. Just waiting for a few reviews before purchasing it.
PS: Best to continue the discussion in the off-topic section rrather than bumping this again

this is a scam don't buy

Since the site is already shutdown it doesn't really matter.

We won't do that, because staff doesn't moderate scams.


People should let this topic die, that is the only way.

My bad. Was just fud busting but it's not worth getting anyone upset over. On a different note, mods should probably lock this thread since it's a confirmed scam.

This is indeed turning into a pissing contest ala iPhone VS. Apple. Can't you both agree on the fact that you don't agree? I highly doubt any of you will change their opinion.

No offense, but RC radio's have been using automatic frequency selection and frequency hopping for decades.  You will find it in $50 radio's.
But that doesnt solve the high bandwidth needed for digital video, that problem is inherent.
And if you have never gone out of range, I have to wonder what range you have been flying at. Here is someone testing it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGqdXEbtFVI

yeah, impressive tech 

It is dual band and automatically scans the local signals to make sure it's using the clearest frequency, even going as far as providing charts and showing where you currently fall in the spectrum. It's software development like that you won't find in less capitalized companies selling lower tech drone kits. If your experience was so bad, I'd say you should look at what you were using to control it. I don't notice any latency when I'm flying mine and it's never gotten out of range.

You cant do 'tricks' at any distance. The combination of (very) high latency and self stabilizing doesnt let you do any high speed proximity or precision flying whatsoever, or any real acro flying.


Yes, like a steerable balloon. Thats not at all what I meant when I said  dynamic. Try flying with any precision at speed. The bebop is like a mars rover, its high tech, Im sure its accurate, great camera's, but it takes ages for your control input to show up on your not-so-live video and no one would claim it handles like a sports car, even if it could drive reasonably fast in straight line.


I suspect those range claims are as exaggerated as the normal flying range. I think you will agree with me that it doesnt really do 2KM without the skycontroller, or even anything close to it.

More over, its using the 2.4 GHz band. If it was bad where I was flying (in the middle of nowhere) I hate to think how it would perform in more urban environments stuffed with 2.4 GHz wifi equipment. I also hate the fact that its not only video thats affected, but control as well.  I can live with brief video glitches, but control glitches will make me crash. The way I fly, 'return to home' isnt going to save my drone, its gonna crash it or park it in a tree. My flight controller is perfectly capable of it, but its turned off as I have far more use for a radio controlled beeper to help me locate the quad

lastly I hate the fact that using wifi makes it all but impossible to fly with several drones. At one of my favorite flying places there is one person flying a DJI phantom with wifi 'fpv', and that pretty much grounds everyone else as his wide spectrum link kills everything in his neighborhood. Without him, we can fly an unlimited number of planes and quads line of sight and we've had up to 6 FPV quads and planes in the air simultaneously without trouble. Try flying just 2 bebops in formation.


I guess Im peeved because its such a missed opportunity. The camera tech really is nice,  but using wifi, its not an FPV experience. Unless the 'P' stands for passenger.

I am a fan of hot air balloon festivals, yet I have never seen one go 45mph. You're right though, I have no desire to perform high speed tricks a mile away in FPV whatsoever. I want to be able to take the clearest and least distorted pictures/video while having awesome software features like a GPS flight analyzer, autonomous flight, easy to use options like 'return to home' and a tap to flip button. I disagree about the control though. I land mine in my hand or on my balcony. I could land it in a 2 square foot area with total precision. As stated before, a simple extender and amplified antenna could get a bebop showing clear video at 5 miles away if you wanted, although I can't see how that would be useful.

I'm happy if you like that other drone better, but your bashing of the Bebop isn't exactly a reflection of reality. Reminds me of fandroids that bash iPhones. No worries though. Drones are a great hobby and it's hard to not have fun no matter what you're flying.

bebop is fine if you want a flying camera, and I can appreciate many people want a flying camera, sometimes I want one too.
But its not what you want to fly, dynamically it just doesnt compare to 250 quads. I mean you cant even fly acro mode with it -and no, pressing a button to do a preprogrammed flip isnt flying acro. Did you see any of the video's I linked?

Also you can ignore the latency issue, but thats the only thing that makes 45mph scary (well, that and the fact you get out of range in seconds because that 2 Km range is a complete joke, at 0.2Km it became all but unflyable)  I estimate the latency of the bebop to be in the 3-500ms range at best and multiple seconds at worst. Even the best number is about the delay they use in drunk driving simulators and is completely unacceptable for any sort of precision flying. I can not even fly properly with the video lag of a mobius or gopro, which is "only" 120ms.

Then you mentioned lenses, you can of course put any camera and lens on a mini that you want. Most of us fly with 2 camera's, one wide angle CCD for lag free FPV, one mobius/gopro/.. for recording. I wouldnt mind mounting a bebop camera to record, but I sure as heck wouldnt want to fly with it (unless I want a flying camera).

Lastly, you want analog video for FPV. Not just for the latency, but when I get out of optimal range, I can still see where Im going without any real problem even when >50% of screen is static and noise, but I cant see where Im going if a poor connection results in multisecond pauzes and freezes.

To each his own I guess, but a bebop to me is more like a steerable hotair balloon that carries a nice camera,  than a racing quad. Flying balloons is nice too though .

My Bebop goes 45mph.  It's outrageous when you turn the speed all the way up.  I actually never fly above 30% speed because it's downright scary to fly around at 45mph.  If you buy the skycontroller you can also get 2km easy in flight range.  If you're serious, you can buy a wireless network extender and a signal amplifier + high dbi antenna for around $150-$200 and can fly 10 miles away if you want (and keep the antenna properly aligned).

I could never go back to the fisheye picture you get from drones like the Blackout Mini.  It's not even a comparable experience and the footage is unusable for anything respectable.  To each their own though. 

Flew a bebop last week and wasnt impressed. Now Im more used to fast and agile 250 class FPV 'mini' quads (pretty big and heavy compared to a bepop)  based around multiwii/naze32/etc flight controllers, and to be fair, thats a different product and market than what ardrone is going for. Yes, the digital video stabilization is impressive, if they ever sell the camera standalone, I will buy a few in a heartbeat. But the bebop flies like a turd and FPV flying through wifi just doesnt compare to traditional FPV equipment.  Range is a big issue (I can easily fly 1Km with my mini's, 10+Km with my fixed wings), but latency a far bigger one.

So if you like your bebop, consider buying a 'real' mini quad, some blackout mini H knock off and a decent pair of FPV goggles preferably from Skyzone. You will never look back. I may change my opinion if anyone posts a bebop video that looks anything remoltely like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDP28sOkSe0
or this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXxsofy1z7g
(and has not been sped up )