Bitfinex owners - stolen funds and ponzi schemes - page 3.

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Quote from: yayayo on August 09, 2016, 01:35:30 PM

Quote from: mayax on August 08, 2016, 07:58:12 AM

Quote from: Shinpako09 on August 07, 2016, 08:04:34 PM

The thing happened in bitfinex was clearly saying you shouldnt keep your btc in a exchange site. I wonder what site wil be the next to say the same as others that they are hacked.

next will be BTC-e and Kraken

I doubt it. Despite the skeptics, BTC-e has proven to be a stable and serious exchange since years. Regardless, one should not store Bitcoin on any exchange longer than absolutely necessary.

The alleged involvement of the Bitfinex founder in multiple Ponzi shemes, including the infamous BST raises significant questions regarding the nature of the "hack". The deletion of social media profiles is certainly not aiding in establishing trust.

It will be interesting to see the further investigative progress - if any is made. The significant amount of stolen funds should at least trigger significant attention from law enforcement.

ya.ya.yo!

You have a point. His 'closeness' to previous scams says he did it. I'll bet .5BTC he will be in jail in less than 6 months. Even the US will try to get him because they have already been close to him in the past. Good chance he won't survive this theft.

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Quote from: mayax on August 08, 2016, 07:58:12 AM

Quote from: Shinpako09 on August 07, 2016, 08:04:34 PM

The thing happened in bitfinex was clearly saying you shouldnt keep your btc in a exchange site. I wonder what site wil be the next to say the same as others that they are hacked.

next will be BTC-e and Kraken

I doubt it. Despite the skeptics, BTC-e has proven to be a stable and serious exchange since years. Regardless, one should not store Bitcoin on any exchange longer than absolutely necessary.

The alleged involvement of the Bitfinex founder in multiple Ponzi shemes, including the infamous BST raises significant questions regarding the nature of the "hack". The deletion of social media profiles is certainly not aiding in establishing trust.

It will be interesting to see the further investigative progress - if any is made. The significant amount of stolen funds should at least trigger significant attention from law enforcement.

ya.ya.yo!

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Quote from: X7 on August 08, 2016, 12:17:45 AM

Raphael NICOLLE - one of the Bitfinex owners

If I knew this is what he looked like, would not have traded there lol. He just looks like he will lose your money

If an ugly French CEO tells you he has a bitcoin exchange he is operating from Asia - RUN!!!!!

What the fuck is it with French Ex-Pat thieves? Is this normal for them?

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i dont think it was just a ponzi scheme, it was a real theft

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Quote from: shinratensei_ on August 09, 2016, 08:58:31 AM

Quote from: alyssa85 on August 08, 2016, 12:53:47 AM

There is nothing stopping members from reporting this to the Hong Kong police. If you have lost money, you have experienced a theft - so report it, and let the police investigate.

Does you can call the bitcoin is a money by seeing that from the constitution ?maybe the police will not wanna to take care of your problem. because they will ask you,if the bitcoin is not writing in the constitution and not included lawful currency.

It really does not matter what Bitcoin status is. As long as someone steals anything from you that has some value, it is a theft. No matter whether it is bike, cash or Bitcoin. I see this misconception often though, I mean thinking nothing can happen to you if you steal Bitcoins. What only really matters is whether you can prove somebody stealed you the bike, cash or Bitcoin.

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Quote from: eternalgloom on August 09, 2016, 08:18:58 AM

Quote from: mayax on August 08, 2016, 07:58:12 AM

Quote from: Shinpako09 on August 07, 2016, 08:04:34 PM

The thing happened in bitfinex was clearly saying you shouldnt keep your btc in a exchange site. I wonder what site wil be the next to say the same as others that they are hacked.

next will be BTC-e and Kraken

Care to explain why you think Kraken will be hacked? I would count that one as one of the more thrustworthy exchanges.

why is Kraken "one of the most trustworthy exchangers" ? what's the difference between Kraken and Bitfinex?

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Quote from: eternalgloom on August 09, 2016, 08:18:58 AM

Quote from: mayax on August 08, 2016, 07:58:12 AM

Quote from: Shinpako09 on August 07, 2016, 08:04:34 PM

The thing happened in bitfinex was clearly saying you shouldnt keep your btc in a exchange site. I wonder what site wil be the next to say the same as others that they are hacked.

next will be BTC-e and Kraken

Care to explain why you think Kraken will be hacked? I would count that one as one of the more thrustworthy exchanges.

it's depending on how good are their securities if it's just as bad as bitfinex (if bitfinex was really hacked due to security issues) then it's just about the time although i don't think they're that dumb to not learning from the past of another exchangers

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Quote from: eternalgloom on August 09, 2016, 08:18:58 AM

Quote from: mayax on August 08, 2016, 07:58:12 AM

Quote from: Shinpako09 on August 07, 2016, 08:04:34 PM

The thing happened in bitfinex was clearly saying you shouldnt keep your btc in a exchange site. I wonder what site wil be the next to say the same as others that they are hacked.

next will be BTC-e and Kraken

Care to explain why you think Kraken will be hacked? I would count that one as one of the more thrustworthy exchanges.

what he said looks more like a spam and nonsense to me.
but technically speaking according to what has happened so far with different exchanges i would never exclude any of these services from being hacked. they are all at risk. some more than others.

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Quote from: alyssa85 on August 08, 2016, 12:53:47 AM

Quote from: mayax on August 07, 2016, 02:38:46 PM

Quote from: vero on August 07, 2016, 02:25:40 PM

is there a law that could confirm the report i mean if the owner bitfinex report the matter to the police the hacker can snare by law.

not to HK police where their company is registered.

in short, Bitfines will no report anything because it's running an illegal forex/broker without license and first of all, the police will ask them about that...

There is nothing stopping members from reporting this to the Hong Kong police. If you have lost money, you have experienced a theft - so report it, and let the police investigate.

Does you can call the bitcoin is a money by seeing that from the constitution ?maybe the police will not wanna to take care of your problem. because they will ask you,if the bitcoin is not writing in the constitution and not included lawful currency.

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Quote from: mayax on August 08, 2016, 07:58:12 AM

Quote from: Shinpako09 on August 07, 2016, 08:04:34 PM

The thing happened in bitfinex was clearly saying you shouldnt keep your btc in a exchange site. I wonder what site wil be the next to say the same as others that they are hacked.

next will be BTC-e and Kraken

Care to explain why you think Kraken will be hacked? I would count that one as one of the more thrustworthy exchanges.

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Quote from: Shinpako09 on August 07, 2016, 08:04:34 PM

The thing happened in bitfinex was clearly saying you shouldnt keep your btc in a exchange site. I wonder what site wil be the next to say the same as others that they are hacked.

next will be BTC-e and Kraken

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Quote from: mayax on August 06, 2016, 05:42:04 PM

Bitfinex did not report anything to the Hong Kong police. They lied. There is no investigation from any authority yet.

You can call yourself the police from HK and they will confirm you that.

In the mean time, take your time and read a very interesting story : https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/bitfinexs-ceo-seemingly-tried-start-ponzi-scheme

Raphael NICOLLE - one of the Bitfinex owners

if he is a ponzi scammer, it is very serious, i think this thing will harm bitcoin industry. cheap price can be but the market will be low for a long time.

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Quote from: mayax on August 07, 2016, 02:38:46 PM

Quote from: vero on August 07, 2016, 02:25:40 PM

is there a law that could confirm the report i mean if the owner bitfinex report the matter to the police the hacker can snare by law.

not to HK police where their company is registered.

in short, Bitfines will no report anything because it's running an illegal forex/broker without license and first of all, the police will ask them about that...

There is nothing stopping members from reporting this to the Hong Kong police. If you have lost money, you have experienced a theft - so report it, and let the police investigate.

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Quote from: mayax on August 06, 2016, 05:42:04 PM

Bitfinex did not report anything to the Hong Kong police. They lied. There is no investigation from any authority yet.

You can call yourself the police from HK and they will confirm you that.

In the mean time, take your time and read a very interesting story : https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/bitfinexs-ceo-seemingly-tried-start-ponzi-scheme

Raphael NICOLLE - one of the Bitfinex owners

If I knew this is what he looked like, would not have traded there lol. He just looks like he will lose your money

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The thing happened in bitfinex was clearly saying you shouldnt keep your btc in a exchange site. I wonder what site wil be the next to say the same as others that they are hacked.

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Quote from: Nimbulan on August 07, 2016, 05:39:06 PM

Quote from: Johnyloco on August 07, 2016, 02:35:52 PM

I think it is yet to be seen what will happen for this case, but I for sure don't believe that bitfinex is a collapsed ponzi

i also dont believe that, i think that it might have been a theft for sure, though there is a big possibility that the thief is not going to return all the bitcoins

Lol, in every place the thief is always not wanna to return all of the goods is he stolen. maybe you forget before becoming a thief they already have any intentions to fall in that jobs and dealing with all of the risky.

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Quote from: Johnyloco on August 07, 2016, 02:35:52 PM

I think it is yet to be seen what will happen for this case, but I for sure don't believe that bitfinex is a collapsed ponzi

i also dont believe that, i think that it might have been a theft for sure, though there is a big possibility that the thief is not going to return all the bitcoins

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Well of course a huge %age of the problem here is that U.S. users can't really spread their assets across various exchanges in the way that nearly everyone else can. So no shock that the infamous U.S.-hater of Europe had its country represented in Bitfinex ownership Wink

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