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Lol here's a suggestion, use the correct number. The shorts right now are 13400 and longs are 28k. The chart you're using is including btc swaps used to long altcoins. Here is the correct chart: https://www.bfxdata.com/positions/btcusd
legendary
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Current Price BFX $1281.   Shocked

Update: At $1040, we had more Shorts > Longs positions at BFX.  We exploded.  Again, to kick off March we are now at that same ratio of more Shorts > Longs.

Shorts will buy up any dip just to escape, considering that 99% of them are under water with huge anxiety at this time.





Shorts lost their pants, I tried to warn everyone, most didn't listen, they thought bitcoin wouldn't be $1,000+ for a long time, and we are going to see shorts being cancelled as bitcoin marches towards $1,300+

I think we are going to see a lot of people at the verge of suicide. Shorters are often gambling addicts, they can potentially end up in debt. Why can't they just buy and hold?
legendary
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Current Price BFX $1281.   Shocked

Update: At $1040, we had more Shorts > Longs positions at BFX.  We exploded.  Again, to kick off March we are now at that same ratio of more Shorts > Longs.

Shorts will buy up any dip just to escape, considering that 99% of them are under water with huge anxiety at this time.



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It is not unlikely that the short squeeze will come much earlier than the Winklevoss decision ...
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yep. this*10.

whenever the shorts pile up, but the market keeps going up, expect a massive short squeezing spike, which will take Bitcoin to it's zenith....

......then after that, the dumping can commence.
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Shorters made insane amounts in 2014-15. holders were throwing money away by taking the safe route.

The trouble with humans is that they get married to one mindset and blow it eventually unless they can admit to themselves that the market is doing something they don't want it to.

Ah. Finally.

Some Non-Bulltard truth Kiss

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legendary
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Shorting is so fucking stupid unless you are George Shoros himself managing insider information, then you could be able to take big shorts, but those guys gambling in such suicidal ways is so insane.

Just buy and hold, you will make massive gains like that alone. Im all about getting rich and taking risks but cmon, shorting bitcoin? bitcoin is only going up you dickwad shorts, don't you see the potential to go up is massive compared to going down? Shorts will never learn.

shorters made insane amounts in 2014-15. holders were throwing money away by taking the safe route.

the trouble with humans is that they get married to one mindset and blow it eventually unless they can admit to themselves that the market is doing something they don't want it to.

Sure, shorting can work, but what when it doesn't? In regular forex, people can end up in debt, not sure how shorting works in poloniex. Anyway I don't like it, you never know when something will go down, you never know when to stop the short.

Buying dips and holding long term is what has worked to me so far.
legendary
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Shorting is so fucking stupid unless you are George Shoros himself managing insider information, then you could be able to take big shorts, but those guys gambling in such suicidal ways is so insane.

Just buy and hold, you will make massive gains like that alone. Im all about getting rich and taking risks but cmon, shorting bitcoin? bitcoin is only going up you dickwad shorts, don't you see the potential to go up is massive compared to going down? Shorts will never learn.

shorters made insane amounts in 2014-15. holders were throwing money away by taking the safe route.

the trouble with humans is that they get married to one mindset and blow it eventually unless they can admit to themselves that the market is doing something they don't want it to.
legendary
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55k Bitcoin in a short position ?  Holy mother.. Shocked

55k contracts. IE $5,5000,000 which is 5.5k BTC and he's probably using 10x leverage so 5.5k/10 = 550

550 bitcoin short

I hope this guy hasn't killed himself yet.

Shorting is so fucking stupid unless you are George Shoros himself managing insider information, then you could be able to take big shorts, but those guys gambling in such suicidal ways is so insane.

Just buy and hold, you will make massive gains like that alone. Im all about getting rich and taking risks but cmon, shorting bitcoin? bitcoin is only going up you dickwad shorts, don't you see the potential to go up is massive compared to going down? Shorts will never learn.
legendary
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Any updates? Shorters getting killed I would imagine? Any suicide news about Bitcoiners?

Current Price BFX $1162.

Slight incline of shorts today as we had an ATH.   Shocked

All of them underwater.

sr. member
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Just noting, that in BFX's history there has never been more short sellers in dollar amount than longs.  

Also note, 90% are under water with the average being somewhere around $950'ish.

So, it seems they are betting on past history.  Every time Bitcoin enters $1000+ it crashes violently.  However, like the old saying goes:

"Past performance is not indicative of future results."

Another theory, is that Bitmex sentiment suggests a 30% chance of the Winklevoss ETF passing as we approach the final March 11 2017 deadline.  So after an expected ETF rejection by the SEC, lots betting that Bitcoin will crash a few hundred.

CSO of Bitfinex was on whalepool chat saying they would protect short sellers in case of cascading margin calls to the upside.

Whatever the case, this does not look to end well.  





Any updates? Shorters getting killed I would imagine? Any suicide news about Bitcoiners?
hero member
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I just hope they can tank the margin when the price soar on the way to March 11. The short squeeze will kill them, the price is already moving up and we are still two weeks away from the decision.
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Todays bump helped by another c.2k worth of shorts throwing in the blood-soaked towel on finex.

Still 13.5k praying this is a bulltrap, with maybe 5k outstanding from the 900 ish level.

I think they think they can ride it out till March 12th. Maybe they can.

 

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Or they could be short because they have inside informatiom about the ETFs.

Do you know when these short contracts expire?
Bitfinex doesn't have short contracts.  They can hold them as long as they don't get margin called.

OK Thanks. That means whoever is holding the shorts is gambling that the ETF is going to be either denied, or the decision postponed again.

They are also hoping that Bitcoin doesn't rally wildly before the decision is made.
If we see a move up by $100 or so, we are going to see a lot of margin calls being made.
legendary
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The largest contract holder at OKCoin has decreased the position by >20,000 BTC in the last 24 hours. (35,828 vs 55,974 BTC).  Shocked
sr. member
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Or they could be short because they have inside informatiom about the ETFs.

Do you know when these short contracts expire?
Bitfinex doesn't have short contracts.  They can hold them as long as they don't get margin called.

OK Thanks. That means whoever is holding the shorts is gambling that the ETF is going to be either denied, or the decision postponed again.

It can't be postponed any longer, either rejected or officially approved or approved by default.
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Or they could be short because they have inside informatiom about the ETFs.

Do you know when these short contracts expire?
Bitfinex doesn't have short contracts.  They can hold them as long as they don't get margin called.

OK Thanks. That means whoever is holding the shorts is gambling that the ETF is going to be either denied, or the decision postponed again.
sr. member
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CSO of Bitfinex was on whalepool chat saying they would protect short sellers in case of cascading margin calls to the upside.

Why on earth would the CSO get involved in individual trades? He should do his job of running an exchange.
If short traders are foolish and get hurt, that's life.

I agree, if they made their bed then let them lie in it. Shit happens, if you gamble your lofe away financially by shorting then you must face the consequences.


Rather shocking to see that comment. It's none of their business. To protect their customers they will attempt to manipulate the market once more? As if there isn't enough manipulation going on.
This CSO should be fired imho.

I can not believe that I agree with kwukduck on something  Shocked
legendary
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55k Bitcoin in a short position ?  Holy mother.. Shocked

55k contracts. IE $5,5000,000 which is 5.5k BTC and he's probably using 10x leverage so 5.5k/10 = 550

550 bitcoin short

And the worst part is that if we cross the 1150$ he'll lose everything Oo
You imagine that? Seeing 500k$... Disappearing...
The guys must be like a crazy bitch in front of his computer!!! Refreshing the chart every 2 seconds xD


As the CSO stated, they will not let that happen, they will protect those people.
sr. member
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55k Bitcoin in a short position ?  Holy mother.. Shocked

55k contracts. IE $5,5000,000 which is 5.5k BTC and he's probably using 10x leverage so 5.5k/10 = 550

550 bitcoin short

And the worst part is that if we cross the 1150$ he'll lose everything Oo
You imagine that? Seeing 500k$... Disappearing...
The guys must be like a crazy bitch in front of his computer!!! Refreshing the chart every 2 seconds xD
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