You guys are so gullible. Make an exchange or bank, wait a while till its full of BTC. Take everyone's BTC. Say you got hacked. Refund a little bit to show you care. Stash your anonymous fortune.
I've met Roman a number of times, and for what it's worth, he doesn't strike me as the "steal and run" kind of guy. He's deeply vested in the success of Bitcoin and cares about it for more than financial reasons.
I believe you there, but he needs to man up and meet obligations. He's offering me my money; but only if I jump through his hoops.
Well, unfortunately, I have to post saying that I chose the wrong exchange. Yesterday, Bitfloor announced that trade was
"suspending" (they really should look that up). Later on, they announced that:
I am sorry to announce that due to circumstances outside of our control BitFloor must cease all trading operations indefinitely. Unfortunately, our US bank account is scheduled to be closed and we can no longer provide the same level of USD deposits and withdrawals as we have in the past. As such, I have made the decision to halt operations and return all funds.
Over the next days we will be working with all clients to ensure that everyone receives their funds. Please be patient as we process your request.
It doesn't sound like suspending, but hey, at least they will be returning all funds, right?
Wrong.Sure, if I give them my bank account information, they'll send me my USD funds. However, I have no interest in doing that. I deposited Bitcoin and I want to get Bitcoin back. But they have announced via Twitter that funds will not be converted to BTC.
Well I'm sorry that it would be a pain in the ass for Bitfloor, but that is their problem. I want my money.
I have no intent of giving them my bank info.
Bitfloor needs to own up and offer conversion to BTC. Hell,
get a Bitstamp account and buy Bitcoins, then send them to my address.
They have no right to demand my personal financial information in order for me to receive money that belongs to me.
By the way, does Bitfloor intend to refund the "held" Bitcoins from the hack? That's rhetorical question mostly, because I think not.
Sorry for the rant, but seriously?
so you would rather lose your money than give them a bank account? and why did you use them at all if they are an exchange and you only need bitcoins?
I guess your bitcoins are not very pure
Because I like to trade Bitcoins, my issue is not that he'll only refund USD, but that I have to give him my bank info for that. It's just a savings account and I prefer not to give it out online. My deposit was in BTC and I expect to be able to withdraw it the same way. This is obviously unlikely, but what if I didn't even have a bank account?
You didn't own those bitcoins at the time BitFloor shut down, you deposited them to an exchange and then converted them to dollars (if I'm understanding correctly).
There is risk using an exchange, bank, storage facility, et cetera. This is precisely why some of us use Bitcoin, to avoid that risk. Yet, you decided, for whatever reason, it was worth the risk to send your coins somewhere else and exchange them to fiat. Now you are facing the repercussions of taking that risk.
BitFloor is providing you with a means of withdrawing the funds you chose to have in your account, dollars. What's the problem?
Because when I decided to start trading Bitcoin was overvalued. I sold for dollars to avoid the crash (which I expected). I want to re-buy when the price stabilizes or falls a bit more.
yet you made all the decisions leading to them holding your dollars
Yes, but they were deceptive: 1) I gave them the money with the expectation of the ability to trade. 2) They said they were "suspending" trade, suggesting that it would resume, and that I would be able to trade again.
They are now "holding my dollars" only because they hid the truth.