BitForce SC - Pre Order List - page 7.

rjk

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Quote from: Dargo on June 23, 2012, 08:02:53 PM

Quote from: Bitcoin Oz on June 23, 2012, 07:57:00 PM

Im concerned 1 company will have over 51% of the network hashing power.

Ive not yet seen any mention from bfl on their policy for when that happens.

BFL won't have over 51%, individual miners using their products ~~will~~ might. Not sure what the worry is.

+1 and FTFY

Dargo

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Quote from: Bitcoin Oz on June 23, 2012, 07:57:00 PM

Im concerned 1 company will have over 51% of the network hashing power.

Ive not yet seen any mention from bfl on their policy for when that happens.

BFL won't have over 51%, individual miners using their products will. Not sure what the worry is.

Serge

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BFL, keep daily database backups of customer orders Wink

Bitcoin Oz

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Wat

Im concerned 1 company will have over 51% of the network hashing power.

Ive not yet seen any mention from bfl on their policy for when that happens.

Keefe

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BFL: Are you willing to commit to a cap on SC hardware shipped per day or week, measured in TH/s?

For example, if you can assure us that no more than 30 TH/s will ship per week, the early buyers can be sure to recover their investment in a reasonable time before the mining difficulty equalizes at 20x what it is now. 30 TH/s would be 30 mini-rigs or 750 singles or 8600 jalapenos per week. Can you give us some idea of whether you'll be pushing out that many per week? Much less? Much more?

I think a major factor holding back some of your potential customers is the concern that they're investing alot of money into hardware that has no value outside of bitcoin mining, and once you've shipped about 200 TH/s of hardware, the difficulty factor will very soon put us back where we're at now in terms of ROI but without the backup plan of selling GPU's to gamers. Also, at that point, you will need to start cutting the price to keep sales flowing, which will kill anyone who couldn't mine enough bitcoins during the transition to cover most of their investment.

So, how much TH/s of hardware do you think you'll be able to assemble and ship per week once shipments start?

binspac

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Quote from: BR0KK on June 23, 2012, 07:24:06 PM

i don't have btc and i can't raise any atm .... when will we be able to buy?

ps i also like paypal .....

+1

My singles haven't made enough BTC yet. PayPal is my only option.

BR0KK

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so its a mouse click away.... as i recall there is not any special knowledge involved to do that.... so why the "it its soooooo not refundable stuff"

btt:

i don't have btc and i can't raise any atm .... when will we be able to buy?

ps i also like paypal .....

1l1l11ll1l

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Quote from: BR0KK on June 23, 2012, 07:16:21 PM

whats so problematic of sending back btc?

Absolutely nothing, however it's a separate transaction. The original transaction is not reversible.

DutchBrat

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1/3rd of which units are we talking about ?

im guessing you will do the 1/3rd strategy for the 3 production lines seperately,

So jalapenos and singles wont be mixed together with tje lottery

Which means if im the onlyone to order a Asic rig, will I def receive one ?

Definit

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Quote from: 1l1l11ll1l on June 23, 2012, 07:14:13 PM

Quote from: Definit on June 23, 2012, 07:09:23 PM

Quote from: quattro on June 23, 2012, 07:05:41 PM

I'm assuming this is just standard bitpay verbiage:

"Once you press Send in your bitcoin wallet, this transaction is not reversible.
Bit-Pay.com cannot be responsible for any dispute you might have with the merchant."

uh, yeah i pretty much closed out when i seen "not reversible."

on a $1333 price tag... thats not something im comfortable dealing with.. especially with a 3 month wait.

Not reversible, it's bitcoin, when have you seen the ability to reverse a bitcoin transaction?

refunding clearity would be a great piece of imformation to have from a company that deals with thousand dollar purchases (pre-order PAID IN FULL) of a product on a 3+ month pre-order waiting list.

Roll Eyes

BR0KK

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whats so problematic of sending back btc?

1l1l11ll1l

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Quote from: Definit on June 23, 2012, 07:09:23 PM

Quote from: quattro on June 23, 2012, 07:05:41 PM

I'm assuming this is just standard bitpay verbiage:

"Once you press Send in your bitcoin wallet, this transaction is not reversible.
Bit-Pay.com cannot be responsible for any dispute you might have with the merchant."

uh, yeah i pretty much closed out when i seen "not reversible."

on a $1333 price tag... thats not something im comfortable dealing with.. especially with a 3 month wait.

Not reversible, it's bitcoin, when have you seen the ability to reverse a bitcoin transaction?

BinaryMage

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Ad astra.

Seems reasonable. Thanks BFL.

Definit

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Quote from: quattro on June 23, 2012, 07:05:41 PM

I'm assuming this is just standard bitpay verbiage:

"Once you press Send in your bitcoin wallet, this transaction is not reversible.
Bit-Pay.com cannot be responsible for any dispute you might have with the merchant."

uh, yeah i pretty much closed out when i seen "not reversible."

on a $1333 price tag... thats not something im comfortable dealing with.. especially with a 3 month wait.

1l1l11ll1l

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quattro

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I'm assuming this is just standard bitpay verbiage:

"Once you press Send in your bitcoin wallet, this transaction is not reversible.
Bit-Pay.com cannot be responsible for any dispute you might have with the merchant."

1l1l11ll1l

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Quote from: BFL on June 23, 2012, 06:51:21 PM

http://www.butterflylabs.com/products/

1/3rd of the units will go in order priority of purchase date.
1/3rd of the units will go to trade in customers.
1/3rd of the units will go to random orders placed in the first month (6/23 - 7/23).

3 segments, Excellent way to do it. Very fair for those quick on the gun, those early adopters, and those who will just get lucky.

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