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Topic: BitKong - Fun & Addictive, provably fair bitcoin game. - page 58. (Read 335676 times)

full member
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the only way to log in is facebook _?
legendary
Activity: 1736
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The provably fair equation listed on the site does not properly verify bets and hashes do not match.

Could you please provide more information on the how results are calculated and verified?

Hey, we had this problem before, when players trying to calculate hashes as an string both times of SHA256 hashing. Second time SHA256 need to be calculated with binary input.

We have an post here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12721065

Thanks for the information. I was able to reach the hash using that info.

This leads me to my next questions regarding the provably fairness:
1. What is the Number variable and how does this relate to the gameplay. How can I verify that the results were predetermined in a specific way?
2. What is the purpose of the client seed if you are not using this in your probably fair formula? If a client seed is not really used, I don't think this can truly be provably fair.

Thanks for the question, this is what no one ask yet, so let me explain Smiley

1. Number don't related to gameplay, it's additional random data to make harder to calculate server seed from the Hash (as there is limited number of possible server seeds). So basically Server seed and Number together is Server Secret, but for result calculation used only first part of the secret - Server Seed.

2. Each digit in the Result is location of winning (losing for Easy mode) cell for each row, so for example for Medium ticket Result: 1111111110 means in the first 9 rows right cells are winning but in the last row winning in the left.
Client Seed used to shuffle Server Seed to calculate Result. Here is basic example:
Medium Ticket:
Server Seed: 1111111111
Client Seed: 1111011111
Result: 0000100000
Result calculation for each pair of digits is Result{i} = ((ServerSeed{i} + ClientSeed{i}) % NumberOfColumnsInTheTicket)

I hope I've explained clearly, we will add this to verification window.

Yep, that clarifies it! Thank you.

That info should definitely be added to the verification window like you mentioned for clarity.
sr. member
Activity: 720
Merit: 251
https://bitkong.com
The provably fair equation listed on the site does not properly verify bets and hashes do not match.

Could you please provide more information on the how results are calculated and verified?

Hey, we had this problem before, when players trying to calculate hashes as an string both times of SHA256 hashing. Second time SHA256 need to be calculated with binary input.

We have an post here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12721065

Thanks for the information. I was able to reach the hash using that info.

This leads me to my next questions regarding the provably fairness:
1. What is the Number variable and how does this relate to the gameplay. How can I verify that the results were predetermined in a specific way?
2. What is the purpose of the client seed if you are not using this in your probably fair formula? If a client seed is not really used, I don't think this can truly be provably fair.

Thanks for the question, this is what no one ask yet, so let me explain Smiley

1. Number don't related to gameplay, it's additional random data to make harder to calculate server seed from the Hash (as there is limited number of possible server seeds). So basically Server seed and Number together is Server Secret, but for result calculation used only first part of the secret - Server Seed.

2. Each digit in the Result is location of winning (losing for Easy mode) cell for each row, so for example for Medium ticket Result: 1111111110 means in the first 9 rows right cells are winning but in the last row winning in the left.
Client Seed used to shuffle Server Seed to calculate Result. Here is basic example:
Medium Ticket:
Server Seed: 1111111111
Client Seed: 1111011111
Result: 0000100000
Result calculation for each pair of digits is Result{i} = ((ServerSeed{i} + ClientSeed{i}) % NumberOfColumnsInTheTicket)

I hope I've explained clearly, we will add this to verification window.
legendary
Activity: 1736
Merit: 1023
The provably fair equation listed on the site does not properly verify bets and hashes do not match.

Could you please provide more information on the how results are calculated and verified?

Hey, we had this problem before, when players trying to calculate hashes as an string both times of SHA256 hashing. Second time SHA256 need to be calculated with binary input.

We have an post here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12721065

Thanks for the information. I was able to reach the hash using that info.

This leads me to my next questions regarding the provably fairness:
1. What is the Number variable and how does this relate to the gameplay. How can I verify that the results were predetermined in a specific way?
2. What is the purpose of the client seed if you are not using this in your probably fair formula? If a client seed is not really used, I don't think this can truly be provably fair.
sr. member
Activity: 720
Merit: 251
https://bitkong.com
The provably fair equation listed on the site does not properly verify bets and hashes do not match.

Could you please provide more information on the how results are calculated and verified?

Hey, we had this problem before, when players trying to calculate hashes as an string both times of SHA256 hashing. Second time SHA256 need to be calculated with binary input.

We have an post here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12721065
legendary
Activity: 1736
Merit: 1023
The provably fair equation listed on the site does not properly verify bets and hashes do not match.

Could you please provide more information on the how results are calculated and verified?
sr. member
Activity: 720
Merit: 251
https://bitkong.com
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Bullshit
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Quote from: RHavar
A huge time-waster. Accuses every casino of being a scam, I've personally spent *hours* over private correspondence explaining and going over things (to which, I even have emails where he's apologized for the false accusations) and then later goes on to repeat them =/
newbie
Activity: 41
Merit: 0
this sites a huge freakin scam.

I played there quite a bit and have done nothing but lose.  I am #1 for games played this year,  and usually #1 for games played on the month and day as well.  i am also in the top 10 day/month/year for wagering.

I have played more games on this site than anyone else, and I feel im qualified to judge based on my experience.

here is a typical scenario.

play teh medium board.   supposedly 50/50 chance of winning on the first one.

pick the same side each time,  betting only the first one.

I lost 10 in a row betting the same side.   Then i was out of chips at that point.   I deposited again.   I bet the same bet 6 more times before it won.     I tried to go up one more row because I had lost so much, and of course it lost.  I was not at all suprised one bit.

I raised my bet since it had missed 16 times on a 50/50 chance.

It lost on the first one, on the same side, same bet,  another 10 times and I was out of chips again.

I had already sworn this stie off and gave it second and third and fourth chances to show it was somewhat fair.

IT is NOT FAIR AT ALL.   Try for yourself, always bet the same bet, you will see, you lose 90% of the time on a 50/50 chance.

I played one last time today, final chance for old rape kong.  my pet name for it.   assfuck kong.   rip you off kong.  scam kong.  rip kong.  etc...

I will not be back.  To whoever runs this site, FUCK YOU!   I hope you and everyone you love dies a slow painful death.


Maybe you should start by giving your username?
"I am #1 for games played this year"
Sorry but you're not. And maybe you can explain me why i can actually profit a lot while playing low bets?
I mean this is gambling ofc, and judging by your post, you play alot at bitkong so why not stop earlier?
Anyway, i've seen all your posts, for you all the casino are not fair and are cheating on you lmao
newbie
Activity: 51
Merit: 0
this sites a huge freakin scam.

I played there quite a bit and have done nothing but lose.  I am #1 for games played this year,  and usually #1 for games played on the month and day as well.  i am also in the top 10 day/month/year for wagering.

I have played more games on this site than anyone else, and I feel im qualified to judge based on my experience.

here is a typical scenario.

play teh medium board.   supposedly 50/50 chance of winning on the first one.

pick the same side each time,  betting only the first one.

I lost 10 in a row betting the same side.   Then i was out of chips at that point.   I deposited again.   I bet the same bet 6 more times before it won.     I tried to go up one more row because I had lost so much, and of course it lost.  I was not at all suprised one bit.

I raised my bet since it had missed 16 times on a 50/50 chance.

It lost on the first one, on the same side, same bet,  another 10 times and I was out of chips again.

I had already sworn this stie off and gave it second and third and fourth chances to show it was somewhat fair.

IT is NOT FAIR AT ALL.   Try for yourself, always bet the same bet, you will see, you lose 90% of the time on a 50/50 chance.

I played one last time today, final chance for old rape kong.  my pet name for it.   assfuck kong.   rip you off kong.  scam kong.  rip kong.  etc...

I will not be back.  To whoever runs this site, FUCK YOU!   I hope you and everyone you love dies a slow painful death.
legendary
Activity: 1218
Merit: 1038
just tried it ,
website looks cool ,nice design
game very simple yet addicting
i'm gonna stay to play  Grin
legendary
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Yeah the 40 BTC jackpot sure is nice. I am also surprised that you guys are having the prize so high. Good luck to everybody that wins.
hero member
Activity: 938
Merit: 1000
very interested,,,may be i will play soon,and hope to get a good profit there or jackpot also Cool
legendary
Activity: 2198
Merit: 1014
Bitdice is scam scam scammmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
I reached 52k games played, damn this game is awesome.

Hey Kado,

I guess we owe you a new mouse  Grin

Soon we will have automated system for bonuses, I guess you will receive an bonus every day Smiley

Haha, yea, a very great mouse Cheesy
Any ETA on the release of the new update? I can't wait for it, do you need any beta tester or anything like that?

Some updates of current version like Jackpot and Bonuses coming in two weeks, a new version will be little bit later, we actively working on this, we will invite you as beta tester for sure Smiley
Well i'm waiting for jackpot and bonus features to be integrated into bitkong. can you give us more info about jackpot/bonus?

We are working on progressive, provably fair Jackpot, which will start from 40 BTC and will be increased with each bet until someone win it. We still working on the logic of Jackpot, to equally distribute winning on the each difficulty level.

We will have daily, monthly and yearly bonuses for the players from Hall of Heroes based on average position. Amount of the bonus still under review, we will announce it soon.
40 btc starting jackpot prize isn't that too big? you should start with a lower amount i think.

Jackpot supposed to be big Smiley

At the moment we offer ~5 BTC when you win ticket with maximum bet, so Jackpot should be significant bigger from max win. We are going to share part of house edge with Jackpot, so in general our house edge will become even less than 1%.

We are waiting I am excited about future updates and new game Smiley
sr. member
Activity: 720
Merit: 251
https://bitkong.com
I reached 52k games played, damn this game is awesome.

Hey Kado,

I guess we owe you a new mouse  Grin

Soon we will have automated system for bonuses, I guess you will receive an bonus every day Smiley

Haha, yea, a very great mouse Cheesy
Any ETA on the release of the new update? I can't wait for it, do you need any beta tester or anything like that?

Some updates of current version like Jackpot and Bonuses coming in two weeks, a new version will be little bit later, we actively working on this, we will invite you as beta tester for sure Smiley
Well i'm waiting for jackpot and bonus features to be integrated into bitkong. can you give us more info about jackpot/bonus?

We are working on progressive, provably fair Jackpot, which will start from 40 BTC and will be increased with each bet until someone win it. We still working on the logic of Jackpot, to equally distribute winning on the each difficulty level.

We will have daily, monthly and yearly bonuses for the players from Hall of Heroes based on average position. Amount of the bonus still under review, we will announce it soon.
40 btc starting jackpot prize isn't that too big? you should start with a lower amount i think.

Jackpot supposed to be big Smiley

At the moment we offer ~5 BTC when you win ticket with maximum bet, so Jackpot should be significant bigger from max win. We are going to share part of house edge with Jackpot, so in general our house edge will become even less than 1%.
legendary
Activity: 1400
Merit: 1009
I reached 52k games played, damn this game is awesome.

Hey Kado,

I guess we owe you a new mouse  Grin

Soon we will have automated system for bonuses, I guess you will receive an bonus every day Smiley

Haha, yea, a very great mouse Cheesy
Any ETA on the release of the new update? I can't wait for it, do you need any beta tester or anything like that?

Some updates of current version like Jackpot and Bonuses coming in two weeks, a new version will be little bit later, we actively working on this, we will invite you as beta tester for sure Smiley
Well i'm waiting for jackpot and bonus features to be integrated into bitkong. can you give us more info about jackpot/bonus?

We are working on progressive, provably fair Jackpot, which will start from 40 BTC and will be increased with each bet until someone win it. We still working on the logic of Jackpot, to equally distribute winning on the each difficulty level.

We will have daily, monthly and yearly bonuses for the players from Hall of Heroes based on average position. Amount of the bonus still under review, we will announce it soon.
40 btc starting jackpot prize isn't that too big? you should start with a lower amount i think.
sr. member
Activity: 720
Merit: 251
https://bitkong.com
I reached 52k games played, damn this game is awesome.

Hey Kado,

I guess we owe you a new mouse  Grin

Soon we will have automated system for bonuses, I guess you will receive an bonus every day Smiley

Haha, yea, a very great mouse Cheesy
Any ETA on the release of the new update? I can't wait for it, do you need any beta tester or anything like that?

Some updates of current version like Jackpot and Bonuses coming in two weeks, a new version will be little bit later, we actively working on this, we will invite you as beta tester for sure Smiley
Well i'm waiting for jackpot and bonus features to be integrated into bitkong. can you give us more info about jackpot/bonus?

We are working on progressive, provably fair Jackpot, which will start from 40 BTC and will be increased with each bet until someone win it. We still working on the logic of Jackpot, to equally distribute winning on the each difficulty level.

We will have daily, monthly and yearly bonuses for the players from Hall of Heroes based on average position. Amount of the bonus still under review, we will announce it soon.


A start from 40BTC thats great! How much will be next one after hit?

Next Jackpot will start accumulating in parallel with current one, so it depends how long will will take to hit current Jackpot and how much will be wagered in that period of time.
legendary
Activity: 2198
Merit: 1014
Bitdice is scam scam scammmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
I reached 52k games played, damn this game is awesome.

Hey Kado,

I guess we owe you a new mouse  Grin

Soon we will have automated system for bonuses, I guess you will receive an bonus every day Smiley

Haha, yea, a very great mouse Cheesy
Any ETA on the release of the new update? I can't wait for it, do you need any beta tester or anything like that?

Some updates of current version like Jackpot and Bonuses coming in two weeks, a new version will be little bit later, we actively working on this, we will invite you as beta tester for sure Smiley
Well i'm waiting for jackpot and bonus features to be integrated into bitkong. can you give us more info about jackpot/bonus?

We are working on progressive, provably fair Jackpot, which will start from 40 BTC and will be increased with each bet until someone win it. We still working on the logic of Jackpot, to equally distribute winning on the each difficulty level.

We will have daily, monthly and yearly bonuses for the players from Hall of Heroes based on average position. Amount of the bonus still under review, we will announce it soon.


A start from 40BTC thats great! How much will be next one after hit?
sr. member
Activity: 720
Merit: 251
https://bitkong.com
I reached 52k games played, damn this game is awesome.

Hey Kado,

I guess we owe you a new mouse  Grin

Soon we will have automated system for bonuses, I guess you will receive an bonus every day Smiley

Haha, yea, a very great mouse Cheesy
Any ETA on the release of the new update? I can't wait for it, do you need any beta tester or anything like that?

Some updates of current version like Jackpot and Bonuses coming in two weeks, a new version will be little bit later, we actively working on this, we will invite you as beta tester for sure Smiley
Well i'm waiting for jackpot and bonus features to be integrated into bitkong. can you give us more info about jackpot/bonus?

We are working on progressive, provably fair Jackpot, which will start from 40 BTC and will be increased with each bet until someone win it. We still working on the logic of Jackpot, to equally distribute winning on the each difficulty level.

We will have daily, monthly and yearly bonuses for the players from Hall of Heroes based on average position. Amount of the bonus still under review, we will announce it soon.
sr. member
Activity: 720
Merit: 251
https://bitkong.com
I have an issue with a deposit. Is there a support email i can contact?

The support email address [email protected] can be found by clicking "support" at the bottom of the page.

Thanks Shogen!

Yes please send an email, or PM with transaction hash and we will look at your issue ASAP.
legendary
Activity: 1400
Merit: 1009
I reached 52k games played, damn this game is awesome.

Hey Kado,

I guess we owe you a new mouse  Grin

Soon we will have automated system for bonuses, I guess you will receive an bonus every day Smiley

Haha, yea, a very great mouse Cheesy
Any ETA on the release of the new update? I can't wait for it, do you need any beta tester or anything like that?

Some updates of current version like Jackpot and Bonuses coming in two weeks, a new version will be little bit later, we actively working on this, we will invite you as beta tester for sure Smiley
Well i'm waiting for jackpot and bonus features to be integrated into bitkong. can you give us more info about jackpot/bonus?
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