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sr. member
Activity: 301
Merit: 250
December 12, 2017, 09:49:31 PM
Antpool is actually a good place to mine BCH using PPLNS.  The transaction fees on that blockchain are next to nothing, so 0%??  Sign me up.
sr. member
Activity: 327
Merit: 250
December 11, 2017, 10:20:37 PM
FYI slush pays out the tx fees and its working out to a solid 20% better than Antpool for me.
IDKY anybody mines with antpool, i only did so temporarily when Eligius began to collapse,.. sorry to see it go.





my deepest sypathy goes out to all those who in the distant past
paid 10-50BTC for a pretty purple coin next to their name.
we are with you in your sorrow.
hero member
Activity: 918
Merit: 1002
December 11, 2017, 12:38:50 PM

 Roll Eyes   you are a few years late for btcguild

Well I search btcguild and got BTC.com as reply, that is the one I am using now and definitely is paying more than Antpool, around 0.00016 more daily than Antpool. And in the last 2 days no delays or "abominable" other things happening. Will see.
I maybe try Slush latter in the week just to compare.
Slush has been running @ 109% for the last 250 blocks.  It's a great pool and worth your serious consideration.
member
Activity: 84
Merit: 10
December 11, 2017, 12:37:03 PM

 Roll Eyes   you are a few years late for btcguild

Well I search btcguild and got BTC.com as reply, that is the one I am using now and definitely is paying more than Antpool, around 0.00016 more daily than Antpool. And in the last 2 days no delays or "abominable" other things happening. Will see.
I maybe try Slush latter in the week just to compare.
sr. member
Activity: 327
Merit: 250
December 10, 2017, 12:40:42 PM
So Johnny, tell us about your pool.. I am looking for a small pool with reasonable operating conditions.
seriously.

[edit]
took a look at your pool website, very nice, perfect terms. I've always thought of .5% as the ideal fair rate to miners and operators both.
sr. member
Activity: 327
Merit: 250
December 10, 2017, 12:37:47 PM
i found that im getting paid accurately for the found blocks, dead on the numbers in fact. about half as much twice as often at Antpool minus the 30% fees which they just keep.

This was a good enough deal for antpoolers when bitcoin was less of a thing and tx fees were insignificant, with Eligius pool drying up a lot of us went to Ant for the zero pool fee.

Antpool has not addressed the point, now that tx fees are running 25-33% and up (of the block reward), They are simply relying on consumer ignorance (a faithful old freind of the merchant throughout history) to dodge/skirt the issue.
They most certainly do address it.  It's right on their website:
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Assign to you alter Antpool found a new block and the new block confirmations more than 3 (Transaction fees not paid out to miners for maintaining cost and the bonus for our engineers). Earnings = 12.5 BTC * Your share count in 2.5 difficulty cycle / Total share count in 2.5 difficulty cycle
(I put the bold in there so it's clear).

They have ALWAYS kept your fees.

thats an excuse.. not an address..
rightfully it should go something more like..
"... In veiw of the recent rise in the use of bitcoin and the considerable increase in block tx fees, it is only fair that we share 95% of fees to our miners... etc,.. etc,.. dealing in good faith,.. etc,.. and due expectation of ethicality,.. blah,.. blah."
I have ALWAYS known that they ALWAYS kept fees. Didnt matter back then.

Adressing an issue means doing something about it, not making a note of it pre ex facto.
legendary
Activity: 1344
Merit: 1023
Mine at Jonny's Pool
December 10, 2017, 12:21:30 PM
i found that im getting paid accurately for the found blocks, dead on the numbers in fact. about half as much twice as often at Antpool minus the 30% fees which they just keep.

This was a good enough deal for antpoolers when bitcoin was less of a thing and tx fees were insignificant, with Eligius pool drying up a lot of us went to Ant for the zero pool fee.

Antpool has not addressed the point, now that tx fees are running 25-33% and up (of the block reward), They are simply relying on consumer ignorance (a faithful old freind of the merchant throughout history) to dodge/skirt the issue.
They most certainly do address it.  It's right on their website:
Quote
Assign to you alter Antpool found a new block and the new block confirmations more than 3 (Transaction fees not paid out to miners for maintaining cost and the bonus for our engineers). Earnings = 12.5 BTC * Your share count in 2.5 difficulty cycle / Total share count in 2.5 difficulty cycle
(I put the bold in there so it's clear).

They have ALWAYS kept your fees.
sr. member
Activity: 327
Merit: 250
December 10, 2017, 12:13:09 PM
well, on my account they are slowly catching up with themselves and paying shares 27 blocks late as of now.
they may have had major server probles/overhaul, been hacked[i doubt that], or been robbing peter to pay paul.. their hashnest enterprise.

in any case.. i am pulling much better [10-20%] at slush. would have been there two years ago but i had some eqipment problems or something[ i forget what].

luck all


[their strat at 3333 keeps showing dead over here, so i assumed the server prob]

Then you mean Slush is better.

--by the math it should be-- by 18 hrs mining it looks so--- but i should get a few days in to make any accurate reckoning..


Ok, let us know the report.


In short.. Antpool sux! - - Slush rules!

Slush is a smaller pool so their success varies nore over and under the 100% ideal statistical expectation.
Antpool, being larger at present, varies less on the average, but still converges towards the 100% ideal.

Over a 2016 block period (one difficulty period- ~14 days). there is little likelyhood that Slushes expected harvest of blocks will deviate far enough from the ideal to represent a risk to the miner. A very small pool (3-4% network hashrate) might suffer this problem.

so when checking specific blocks found, ie: my scoring hashrate/slush scoring hashrate * (12.5 reward+tx fees[typically 2-4])* 98%
[slush takes 2% ATM]...
compared to antpool .. my hashrate/their hashrate * (12.5+ZERO ) * 100% ...

i found that im getting paid accurately for the found blocks, dead on the numbers in fact. about half as much twice as often at Antpool minus the 30% tx fees which they just keep.

This was a good enough deal for antpoolers when bitcoin was less of a thing and tx fees were insignificant, with Eligius pool drying up a lot of us went to Ant for the zero pool fee.

Antpool has not addressed the point, now that tx fees are running 25-33% and up (of the block reward), They are simply relying on consumer ignorance (a faithful old freind of the merchant throughout history) to dodge/skirt the issue.

Mathematically Slush is paying better than Ant by the tx fee factor, about 25-33%.

In real life, after a few days at Slush, well, same thing.
I'm definitely pulling better there by whatever the tx fees are per the block found.. usually 20-35%.
The pool variance over the difficulty period is not great enough to be concerned.

I dont know what the issue is with late earnings credits at Ant or how often it happens, but they have always paid, even if a day late.

Im staying with Slush for the moment.
Can anyone tell me how small of a pool would be statistically safe? somebody good with stat distribution, kelly factor and the like?



hero member
Activity: 723
Merit: 519
December 09, 2017, 04:33:24 PM
hy, my new antminer s9 mine from yesterday on antpool, on port 443 because this miner can not conect on port 3333.
i have the antminer s3 mine on antpool to port 3333.
no payment for the hashrate, on user fosy and fosyca ,    yesterday -10Th all day , an today i change the name and no paymants.
why? The S9 is brand new from bitmain.
Miner is set to pplns the same from last miner avalon6 use on the same user,
the miner for bch pplns is ok .

For the BTC the dashboard show the hasrate for the account but no paymant for eatch bolock on the Earning Hystory.
pls help.


There is no one here to help you with this problem.  Help yourself by moving to any other pool than this one. Hell I’d point at nicehash/btcguild  right now Over this abomination. Roll Eyes

BR

Well Nicehash has been hacked and is down for 24 hours, that left only btcguild.


 Roll Eyes   you are a few years late for btcguild
newbie
Activity: 18
Merit: 0
December 08, 2017, 03:18:20 PM
well, on my account they are slowly catching up with themselves and paying shares 27 blocks late as of now.
they may have had major server probles/overhaul, been hacked[i doubt that], or been robbing peter to pay paul.. their hashnest enterprise.

in any case.. i am pulling much better [10-20%] at slush. would have been there two years ago but i had some eqipment problems or something[ i forget what].

luck all


[their strat at 3333 keeps showing dead over here, so i assumed the server prob]

Then you mean Slush is better.

--by the math it should be-- by 18 hrs mining it looks so--- but i should get a few days in to make any accurate reckoning..


Ok, let us know the report.
sr. member
Activity: 327
Merit: 250
December 08, 2017, 02:17:21 PM
well, on my account they are slowly catching up with themselves and paying shares 27 blocks late as of now.
they may have had major server probles/overhaul, been hacked[i doubt that], or been robbing peter to pay paul.. their hashnest enterprise.

in any case.. i am pulling much better [10-20%] at slush. would have been there two years ago but i had some eqipment problems or something[ i forget what].

luck all


[their strat at 3333 keeps showing dead over here, so i assumed the server prob]

Then you mean Slush is better.

--by the math it should be-- by 18 hrs mining it looks so--- but i should get a few days in to make any accurate reckoning..

newbie
Activity: 18
Merit: 0
December 08, 2017, 01:47:18 PM
well, on my account they are slowly catching up with themselves and paying shares 27 blocks late as of now.
they may have had major server probles/overhaul, been hacked[i doubt that], or been robbing peter to pay paul.. their hashnest enterprise.

in any case.. i am pulling much better [10-20%] at slush. would have been there two years ago but i had some eqipment problems or something[ i forget what].

luck all


[their strat at 3333 keeps showing dead over here, so i assumed the server prob]

Then you mean Slush is better.
sr. member
Activity: 327
Merit: 250
December 08, 2017, 12:37:09 PM
well, on my account they are slowly catching up with themselves and paying shares 27 blocks late as of now.
they may have had major server probles/overhaul, been hacked[i doubt that], or been robbing peter to pay paul.. their hashnest enterprise.

in any case.. i am pulling much better [10-20%] at slush. would have been there two years ago but i had some eqipment problems or something[ i forget what].

luck all


[their strat at 3333 keeps showing dead over here, so i assumed the server prob]
newbie
Activity: 18
Merit: 0
December 08, 2017, 12:28:41 PM
with 5 s9 machines 14t

i was making on antpool arround : 0.01 btc in 24hours

now i moved to slushpool and i'm only : 0.008 btc in 24hours,

very strange.

member
Activity: 84
Merit: 10
December 08, 2017, 12:13:22 PM
I would not say the miners, but the pool.
My miners works fine but the pool does not show any earnings on my account, earnings are going somewhere else.
Just right now can't access my Antpool account, only able to access Bitmain account, that is all, it maybe a temporary issue but there is no communication from the pool about any issue, they are as mute as always.
Just in case I am moving to another pool.
newbie
Activity: 38
Merit: 0
December 08, 2017, 12:01:07 PM
So all of the antpool miners have the same issue at the moment?
member
Activity: 84
Merit: 10
December 08, 2017, 11:34:07 AM

There is no one here to help you with this problem.  Help yourself by moving to any other pool than this one. Hell I’d point at nicehash/btcguild  right now Over this abomination. Roll Eyes

BR

Well Nicehash has been hacked and is down for 24 hours, that left only btcguild.


Right word, abomination, you go it. As soon as I change to btcguild start seeing Real Time estimate earnings. I am trying to login to Antpool for around 45 minutes now after logout and can't get in, maybe hacked too but no news anywhere about it.
Now I have to drive to the other locations to change pool.

Thanks for the advise.
newbie
Activity: 18
Merit: 0
December 08, 2017, 11:32:07 AM
i was on antpool and there was problem since 2 days, i switched to slushpool, but i think profits on 24hours is better from antpool then slushpool,

somebody to confirm ?
member
Activity: 84
Merit: 10
December 08, 2017, 10:37:53 AM
hy, my new antminer s9 mine from yesterday on antpool, on port 443 because this miner can not conect on port 3333.
i have the antminer s3 mine on antpool to port 3333.
no payment for the hashrate, on user fosy and fosyca ,    yesterday -10Th all day , an today i change the name and no paymants.
why? The S9 is brand new from bitmain.
Miner is set to pplns the same from last miner avalon6 use on the same user,
the miner for bch pplns is ok .

For the BTC the dashboard show the hasrate for the account but no paymant for eatch bolock on the Earning Hystory.
pls help.


There is no one here to help you with this problem.  Help yourself by moving to any other pool than this one. Hell I’d point at nicehash/btcguild  right now Over this abomination. Roll Eyes

BR

Well Nicehash has been hacked and is down for 24 hours, that left only btcguild.
legendary
Activity: 1453
Merit: 1011
Bitcoin Talks Bullshit Walks
December 08, 2017, 10:26:05 AM
hy, my new antminer s9 mine from yesterday on antpool, on port 443 because this miner can not conect on port 3333.
i have the antminer s3 mine on antpool to port 3333.
no payment for the hashrate, on user fosy and fosyca ,    yesterday -10Th all day , an today i change the name and no paymants.
why? The S9 is brand new from bitmain.
Miner is set to pplns the same from last miner avalon6 use on the same user,
the miner for bch pplns is ok .

For the BTC the dashboard show the hasrate for the account but no paymant for eatch bolock on the Earning Hystory.
pls help.


There is no one here to help you with this problem.  Help yourself by moving to any other pool than this one. Hell I’d point at nicehash/btcguild  right now Over this abomination. Roll Eyes

BR
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