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legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
June 07, 2016, 12:14:50 AM
#83

I'd like to point out that right now the notion that the Antminer S9 is restricted to AntPool is FUD.

 I'll take Kano's word over yours.
 His trust factor is quite a bit higher overall on technical issues.

What do I care if you take kano's word over mine?  I'm simply telling you that you won't be restricted to Antpool with S9's.  You can choose to believe the sky is falling.  Makes no difference to me whatsoever.

I think OgNasty will be correct.

Was there really any doubt?

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.15108924

Yes kano's first post did cause enough doubt in my mind to not order a third unit.

So I now have the coins, but no place to order one.

Mind you I am not complaining as coins went up. 

The 6.36 coins I am holding have gone up in value from 3430 to 3733.

 So with a big  bump   maybe I end up with free  s-9s
donator
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Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
June 06, 2016, 11:16:33 PM
#82

I'd like to point out that right now the notion that the Antminer S9 is restricted to AntPool is FUD.

 I'll take Kano's word over yours.
 His trust factor is quite a bit higher overall on technical issues.

What do I care if you take kano's word over mine?  I'm simply telling you that you won't be restricted to Antpool with S9's.  You can choose to believe the sky is falling.  Makes no difference to me whatsoever.

I think OgNasty will be correct.

Was there really any doubt?

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.15108924
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
June 06, 2016, 07:02:27 PM
#81

I'd like to point out that right now the notion that the Antminer S9 is restricted to AntPool is FUD.

 I'll take Kano's word over yours.
 His trust factor is quite a bit higher overall on technical issues.

What do I care if you take kano's word over mine?  I'm simply telling you that you won't be restricted to Antpool with S9's.  You can choose to believe the sky is falling.  Makes no difference to me whatsoever.

I think OgNasty will be correct.

I also think I will wait for a reply from Avalon about the avalon7.
Since I did run a few group buys for block-c and Yan last winter.
There seems to be a chance the Avalon 7 will come out soon.

Maybe I can do a no profit. (For me )  group buy like I did last time.

Also yoshi of bitmainwarranty has stated the s-9 will run on Kano's pool.

So I think the scare was just a scare.
full member
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June 06, 2016, 06:21:07 PM
#80
You wrote like there is a chance for "no win"...
sr. member
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June 06, 2016, 06:15:32 PM
#79
Im not too worried about the pool it can mine on....im more worried about the cost. $2100 plus shipping for a miner not shipping yet so close to the halving is scarry. One thing is certain though....every btc paid to bitmain has shot up in value so bitmain made a ton off of first adopter and a ton off of the increase. Its a win win for them at this point.
donator
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June 06, 2016, 09:30:40 AM
#78

I'd like to point out that right now the notion that the Antminer S9 is restricted to AntPool is FUD.

 I'll take Kano's word over yours.
 His trust factor is quite a bit higher overall on technical issues.

What do I care if you take kano's word over mine?  I'm simply telling you that you won't be restricted to Antpool with S9's.  You can choose to believe the sky is falling.  Makes no difference to me whatsoever.
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
June 06, 2016, 07:44:45 AM
#77
what is FUD ?

Nothing like a bit of Fear Uncertainty and Doubt.  Smiley Bitnmain says it works on Kano, very easy for anyone to check if it works on other pools.


Rich



I had the coins to order a third and I read kano's post  I did not order. The said f it and decided to order and it is sold out.

The good side is coins price has went up.   So holding may be better.
hero member
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June 06, 2016, 03:15:35 AM
#76
what is FUD ?

Nothing like a bit of Fear Uncertainty and Doubt.  Smiley Bitnmain says it works on Kano, very easy for anyone to check if it works on other pools.


Rich

legendary
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June 06, 2016, 01:28:15 AM
#75
what is FUD ?
legendary
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June 06, 2016, 01:20:13 AM
#74

I'd like to point out that right now the notion that the Antminer S9 is restricted to AntPool is FUD.


 I'll take Kano's word over yours.
 His trust factor is quite a bit higher overall on technical issues.
legendary
Activity: 1456
Merit: 1000
June 06, 2016, 12:24:01 AM
#73
Does anyone know when it will be released ? And what do you think does it gain ?

If your talking about S9 it has technically been publicly released and scheduled to start shipping June 12th which is not to far away (less then a week which seems crazy).  But it is sold out https://bitmaintech.com/productDetail.htm?pid=0002016052907243375530DcJIoK0654

So you are likely waiting on batch 2 or if they add more to batch 1 and open it up.   As far as gain... it's all about efficiency they squeezed like 2/3 more efficiency almost out of it.  So a lot currently when talking about having coming.
hero member
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June 05, 2016, 01:08:43 PM
#72
Does anyone know when it will be released ? And what do you think does it gain ?
legendary
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June 05, 2016, 12:01:24 PM
#71
Other than centralization of one pool, why do people not like the miners being restricted to AntPool?

How would you like it if you can only buy Goodyear tires for your Honda?
It is basic freedom of choice, man. They don't teach that in school in your country?

I'd like to point out that right now the notion that the Antminer S9 is restricted to AntPool is FUD.

true, and we will find out soon enough.
I replied to the hypothetical that OP posited.
donator
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June 05, 2016, 11:45:15 AM
#70
Other than centralization of one pool, why do people not like the miners being restricted to AntPool?

How would you like it if you can only buy Goodyear tires for your Honda?
It is basic freedom of choice, man. They don't teach that in school in your country?

I'd like to point out that right now the notion that the Antminer S9 is restricted to AntPool is FUD.
legendary
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Merit: 4331
June 05, 2016, 11:42:19 AM
#69
Other than centralization of one pool, why do people not like the miners being restricted to AntPool?

How would you like it if you can only buy Goodyear tires for your Honda?
It is basic freedom of choice, man. They don't teach that in school in your country?
legendary
Activity: 1498
Merit: 1030
June 05, 2016, 03:09:37 AM
#68
You just hit one nail on the head - centralization.

 The other one - and for the BIG farms, this matters a lot - is pool fees.
 I strongly suspect that very few big farms run through some pool not their own, and probably quite a few of them run their own P2Pool nodes, in order to maximise profit.


 In my specific case, every time I've even TRIED to use AntPool, it's been nothing but issues that I've never been able to figure out. By the time I get back into BitCoin mining at all, I intend to have a solid P2Pool node set up to point my miners at (already working on getting that set up for LiteCoin, which should be good practice - had it set up for X11 at one point, back when I mined X11).

newbie
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June 04, 2016, 11:52:46 PM
#67
Other than centralization of one pool, why do people not like the miners being restricted to AntPool?
newbie
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Merit: 0
June 04, 2016, 11:18:56 PM
#66
well I sure hope somebody jailbreaks it if it is true........



I heard that s9's will only mine on AntPool?

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.15073544

Can anyone confirm that?

I hope its just a joke?

maybe not a joke.  at least kano said it will not mine on his pool

The old asicminer tubes were fucked up with many pool restrictions.  Fixes and patches were  done.

I am not buying a third one as only antpool mining is not acceptable.

I agree, this doesn't make sense.
sr. member
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Merit: 250
June 04, 2016, 04:36:23 PM
#65
well I sure hope somebody jailbreaks it if it is true........



I heard that s9's will only mine on AntPool?

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.15073544

Can anyone confirm that?

I hope its just a joke?

maybe not a joke.  at least kano said it will not mine on his pool

The old asicminer tubes were fucked up with many pool restrictions.  Fixes and patches were  done.

I am not buying a third one as only antpool mining is not acceptable.

Bitmain surely understand that is not an acceptable solution. Has being the only asic manufacturer made them that arrogant? I surely hope not. It will cost them their business in the end...
Mark my words....
legendary
Activity: 1498
Merit: 1030
June 04, 2016, 02:54:21 AM
#64

The voltage and the power consumption is a little bit near in s7.. did you try s9 how about the noises??

No one has a clue on the noise factor seeing as Shipping starts from 12 June.


 Given the similarity in design and power consumption to the 2-fan S7 models, on CAN estimate that the noise level will be about the same.
 I don't see any reason Bitmain would have changed fans, given they seem to have a ton of them on hand and have been using the same fan model for years now.


 I am happy I decided to wait - I will NOT put up with "antpool only" restriction on this miner, Bitmain OR SOMEONE needs to fix that before it becomes a viable product (over and above they need to get the price down some).



 Wifi is an unneeded expense for most miner units - if YOU want it, it's fairly cheap and easy to add an Ethernet <-> Wifi adapter.
 USB - I'm pretty sure the controller CPU board they use has a USB port, shouldn't be hard to add a USB-Wifi connection if YOU want that.

 Hint - most SERIOUS (read "large farm") operators DO NOT USE WIFI, as it flat out won't handle enough connections and isn't RELIABLE enough for large-scale deployment.
 Even a lot of us HOME miners don't want anything to do with WiFi.



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