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Topic: Bitmain just announced the AntMiner A3 - 815GH/s Siacoin miner - Blake(2b) - page 7. (Read 12765 times)

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Selling 4 A3 miners on hand in NYC and Albany. $3k each.
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so... a3 is a no go, I guess Tongue

Long term, A3 can be expected to do "as well" as L3 & S9 are doing at the moment.  L3 & S9 are in range of $250-350/mo at the moment.  Currently, the A3 looks like it will be doing $30/day for the next 50 days or so then maybe $10/day after March.  Still not bad.   


Long term, if the project is successful, I see SC at $0.20-$0.60 range within 2-3 years.  That part is speculation of course.

I can promise you that after the next batches hit the network, daily profit will be around $2.50. Like the D3 is today. People keep forgetting.....this is ONE COIN. The X11 network was already dangerously thin and it contains several coins. This one.....not so much.

You might be right. It sounds reasonable and within realm of possibility.  What do oldtimers say around here??......"Mine on".    I am relative newb, but I am sure BTC experienced the same thing multiple times.  Those that mined on and held their coins came out alright.
I feel that tha is the healthiest attitude one can have toward the A3. Forget ROI. Just keep the SC.
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so... a3 is a no go, I guess Tongue

Long term, A3 can be expected to do "as well" as L3 & S9 are doing at the moment.  L3 & S9 are in range of $250-350/mo at the moment.  Currently, the A3 looks like it will be doing $30/day for the next 50 days or so then maybe $10/day after March.  Still not bad.  


Long term, if the project is successful, I see SC at $0.20-$0.60 range within 2-3 years.  That part is speculation of course.

I can promise you that after the next batches hit the network, daily profit will be around $2.50. Like the D3 is today. People keep forgetting.....this is ONE COIN. The X11 network was already dangerously thin and it contains several coins. This one.....not so much.

It depends on how many they sell on batch 2. If they sell same amount of batch 1, I am pretty sure it will be way better than $2.5. More like $15-$20 or better if sia stays at 0.03 to 0.04.
So Batch 1 sent daily profit from $500.00 to $40.00 and difficulty from 650 TH to 11,561,001 TH, and you think another batch of the same magnitude will only knock $20.00 a day off the current profitability?Huh Um....ok.....if you say so.  Roll Eyes

Say there are 10K miners fighting for 144 blocks a day and make $40 worth coins a day. 20k miners will make $20. Why do you think I am wrong? Lol
I don't think you're " wrong " per say, I just think that, while I applaud your optimism, I have seen this movie before. Keep in mind that Bitmain runs one of the largest mining farms in the world. The 10k would indeed be nice. I'm just jaded and skeptical. I am 100% convinced that Bitmain has a "long game" plan here with SIA. Part of that is to control as much of the coin as humanly possible. E.g.; BCH. This little protocol fits very well into Bitmain's future plans in AI. Cloud Storage is a Holy Grail for their long term plans.

Your argument seems to support the mine and hold strategy. Mine and hold.
I am not mining it. I am just buying it. As much as I can. It's almost down to 3 cents now. I do mine a lot of other things but I also went through the D3 shitshow. Granted on a small scale but I just don't need the distraction. Those D3's have always been the highest power draw, lowest profit and most problematic mechanically in my farm. For 3 cents I can buy a metric shit ton of SIA and see if my theory plays out. I suspect it will take a long time but hey. Who cares.
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so... a3 is a no go, I guess Tongue

Long term, A3 can be expected to do "as well" as L3 & S9 are doing at the moment.  L3 & S9 are in range of $250-350/mo at the moment.  Currently, the A3 looks like it will be doing $30/day for the next 50 days or so then maybe $10/day after March.  Still not bad.  


Long term, if the project is successful, I see SC at $0.20-$0.60 range within 2-3 years.  That part is speculation of course.

I can promise you that after the next batches hit the network, daily profit will be around $2.50. Like the D3 is today. People keep forgetting.....this is ONE COIN. The X11 network was already dangerously thin and it contains several coins. This one.....not so much.

It depends on how many they sell on batch 2. If they sell same amount of batch 1, I am pretty sure it will be way better than $2.5. More like $15-$20 or better if sia stays at 0.03 to 0.04.
So Batch 1 sent daily profit from $500.00 to $40.00 and difficulty from 650 TH to 11,561,001 TH, and you think another batch of the same magnitude will only knock $20.00 a day off the current profitability?Huh Um....ok.....if you say so.  Roll Eyes

Say there are 10K miners fighting for 144 blocks a day and make $40 worth coins a day. 20k miners will make $20. Why do you think I am wrong? Lol
I don't think you're " wrong " per say, I just think that, while I applaud your optimism, I have seen this movie before. Keep in mind that Bitmain runs one of the largest mining farms in the world. The 10k would indeed be nice. I'm just jaded and skeptical. I am 100% convinced that Bitmain has a "long game" plan here with SIA. Part of that is to control as much of the coin as humanly possible. E.g.; BCH. This little protocol fits very well into Bitmain's future plans in AI. Cloud Storage is a Holy Grail for their long term plans.

Your argument seems to support the mine and hold strategy. Mine and hold.
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so... a3 is a no go, I guess Tongue

Long term, A3 can be expected to do "as well" as L3 & S9 are doing at the moment.  L3 & S9 are in range of $250-350/mo at the moment.  Currently, the A3 looks like it will be doing $30/day for the next 50 days or so then maybe $10/day after March.  Still not bad.   


Long term, if the project is successful, I see SC at $0.20-$0.60 range within 2-3 years.  That part is speculation of course.

I can promise you that after the next batches hit the network, daily profit will be around $2.50. Like the D3 is today. People keep forgetting.....this is ONE COIN. The X11 network was already dangerously thin and it contains several coins. This one.....not so much.

You might be right. It sounds reasonable and within realm of possibility.  What do oldtimers say around here??......"Mine on".    I am relative newb, but I am sure BTC experienced the same thing multiple times.  Those that mined on and held their coins came out alright.
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so... a3 is a no go, I guess Tongue

Long term, A3 can be expected to do "as well" as L3 & S9 are doing at the moment.  L3 & S9 are in range of $250-350/mo at the moment.  Currently, the A3 looks like it will be doing $30/day for the next 50 days or so then maybe $10/day after March.  Still not bad.  


Long term, if the project is successful, I see SC at $0.20-$0.60 range within 2-3 years.  That part is speculation of course.

I can promise you that after the next batches hit the network, daily profit will be around $2.50. Like the D3 is today. People keep forgetting.....this is ONE COIN. The X11 network was already dangerously thin and it contains several coins. This one.....not so much.

It depends on how many they sell on batch 2. If they sell same amount of batch 1, I am pretty sure it will be way better than $2.5. More like $15-$20 or better if sia stays at 0.03 to 0.04.
So Batch 1 sent daily profit from $500.00 to $40.00 and difficulty from 650 TH to 11,561,001 TH, and you think another batch of the same magnitude will only knock $20.00 a day off the current profitability?Huh Um....ok.....if you say so.  Roll Eyes

Say there are 10K miners fighting for 144 blocks a day and make $40 worth coins a day. 20k miners will make $20. Why do you think I am wrong? Lol
I don't think you're " wrong " per say, I just think that, while I applaud your optimism, I have seen this movie before. Keep in mind that Bitmain runs one of the largest mining farms in the world. The 10k would indeed be nice. I'm just jaded and skeptical. I am 100% convinced that Bitmain has a "long game" plan here with SIA. Part of that is to control as much of the coin as humanly possible. E.g.; BCH. This little protocol fits very well into Bitmain's future plans in AI. Cloud Storage is a Holy Grail for their long term plans.
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so... a3 is a no go, I guess Tongue

Long term, A3 can be expected to do "as well" as L3 & S9 are doing at the moment.  L3 & S9 are in range of $250-350/mo at the moment.  Currently, the A3 looks like it will be doing $30/day for the next 50 days or so then maybe $10/day after March.  Still not bad.  


Long term, if the project is successful, I see SC at $0.20-$0.60 range within 2-3 years.  That part is speculation of course.

I can promise you that after the next batches hit the network, daily profit will be around $2.50. Like the D3 is today. People keep forgetting.....this is ONE COIN. The X11 network was already dangerously thin and it contains several coins. This one.....not so much.

It depends on how many they sell on batch 2. If they sell same amount of batch 1, I am pretty sure it will be way better than $2.5. More like $15-$20 or better if sia stays at 0.03 to 0.04.
So Batch 1 sent daily profit from $500.00 to $40.00 and difficulty from 650 TH to 11,561,001 TH, and you think another batch of the same magnitude will only knock $20.00 a day off the current profitability?Huh Um....ok.....if you say so.  Roll Eyes

Say there are 10K miners fighting for 144 blocks a day and make $40 worth coins a day. 20k miners will make $20. Why do you think I am wrong? Lol
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soon my poops package arrives at bitmain castle of dead souls. then see how difficulty has for bitmain bloodsuckers.
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so... a3 is a no go, I guess Tongue

Long term, A3 can be expected to do "as well" as L3 & S9 are doing at the moment.  L3 & S9 are in range of $250-350/mo at the moment.  Currently, the A3 looks like it will be doing $30/day for the next 50 days or so then maybe $10/day after March.  Still not bad.   


Long term, if the project is successful, I see SC at $0.20-$0.60 range within 2-3 years.  That part is speculation of course.

I can promise you that after the next batches hit the network, daily profit will be around $2.50. Like the D3 is today. People keep forgetting.....this is ONE COIN. The X11 network was already dangerously thin and it contains several coins. This one.....not so much.

It depends on how many they sell on batch 2. If they sell same amount of batch 1, I am pretty sure it will be way better than $2.5. More like $15-$20 or better if sia stays at 0.03 to 0.04.
So Batch 1 sent daily profit from $500.00 to $40.00 and difficulty from 650 TH to 11,561,001 TH, and you think another batch of the same magnitude will only knock $20.00 a day off the current profitability?Huh Um....ok.....if you say so.  Roll Eyes
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I just ran my first 24 hr period on siamining, and payout is right at 1000 SC.
Whats the probability of finding a block at the current difficulty if I were to solomine with the A3?  Would it be worth a shot?

Simple probability. Your chances are 1 in 10,000.
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I just ran my first 24 hr period on siamining, and payout is right at 1000 SC.
Whats the probability of finding a block at the current difficulty if I were to solomine with the A3?  Would it be worth a shot?
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so... a3 is a no go, I guess Tongue

Long term, A3 can be expected to do "as well" as L3 & S9 are doing at the moment.  L3 & S9 are in range of $250-350/mo at the moment.  Currently, the A3 looks like it will be doing $30/day for the next 50 days or so then maybe $10/day after March.  Still not bad.   


Long term, if the project is successful, I see SC at $0.20-$0.60 range within 2-3 years.  That part is speculation of course.

I can promise you that after the next batches hit the network, daily profit will be around $2.50. Like the D3 is today. People keep forgetting.....this is ONE COIN. The X11 network was already dangerously thin and it contains several coins. This one.....not so much.

It depends on how many they sell on batch 2. If they sell same amount of batch 1, I am pretty sure it will be way better than $2.5. More like $15-$20 or better if sia stays at 0.03 to 0.04.
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so... a3 is a no go, I guess Tongue

Long term, A3 can be expected to do "as well" as L3 & S9 are doing at the moment.  L3 & S9 are in range of $250-350/mo at the moment.  Currently, the A3 looks like it will be doing $30/day for the next 50 days or so then maybe $10/day after March.  Still not bad.   


Long term, if the project is successful, I see SC at $0.20-$0.60 range within 2-3 years.  That part is speculation of course.

I can promise you that after the next batches hit the network, daily profit will be around $2.50. Like the D3 is today. People keep forgetting.....this is ONE COIN. The X11 network was already dangerously thin and it contains several coins. This one.....not so much.

my thoughts too.
I'm not surprised at all.
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so... a3 is a no go, I guess Tongue

Long term, A3 can be expected to do "as well" as L3 & S9 are doing at the moment.  L3 & S9 are in range of $250-350/mo at the moment.  Currently, the A3 looks like it will be doing $30/day for the next 50 days or so then maybe $10/day after March.  Still not bad.   


Long term, if the project is successful, I see SC at $0.20-$0.60 range within 2-3 years.  That part is speculation of course.

I can promise you that after the next batches hit the network, daily profit will be around $2.50. Like the D3 is today. People keep forgetting.....this is ONE COIN. The X11 network was already dangerously thin and it contains several coins. This one.....not so much.
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yeah, well as this point it is pure speculation.
however the drop in a3 profitability is staggering. I got L3's early on, and they were VERY profitable for a while, hasnt dropped nearly as fast as a3's....

What are you surprised about? You have to be happy that only 10K batch 1 A3 was sold.

If you didnt know this is how much you will be mining with a A3 on day 7 or later, you probably didnt do much research before buying

Read my other post about how difficulty will go down and how you will mine twice of what you are mining now
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yeah, well as this point it is pure speculation.
however the drop in a3 profitability is staggering. I got L3's early on, and they were VERY profitable for a while, hasnt dropped nearly as fast as a3's....
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so... a3 is a no go, I guess Tongue

Long term, A3 can be expected to do "as well" as L3 & S9 are doing at the moment.  L3 & S9 are in range of $250-350/mo at the moment.  Currently, the A3 looks like it will be doing $30/day for the next 50 days or so then maybe $10/day after March.  Still not bad.   


Long term, if the project is successful, I see SC at $0.20-$0.60 range within 2-3 years.  That part is speculation of course.
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so... a3 is a no go, I guess Tongue
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It is absolutely obvious that Bitmain is trying to force a Fork so that they can commandeer the old coin after the fork. There is NO doubt about it.

Interesting thought.  Possible, but I sort of doubt Bitmain has any interest in developing the project.   SIA only has real value as a cloud storage project.  I doubt that they have capability even,,,, no dev team or interest.

What a fuster cluck.
Remember, Bitmian's current darling project is Sophon. What is Sophon? Sophon is an AI based protocol. What does AI use the most of? Data. Lots of it. What does Sia do? Decentralized data. These coins are like shares in a company. Control the shares and you control the company, Think about it. Maybe not so far fetched.

thats scary to think, if they succeed in forcing out the current dev team with all the $$ they have from selling worthless heaters and mining with the heaters for months before they sell them they could easily fund a new dev team of thier own.  That beings said this sounds somwhat far feteched

 I am not aware of any other decentralized cloud storage project in the cryptosphere besides SIA.   

I would almost speculate the other way.... that Bitmain's hedge fund financiers influenced them to undercut the SIA team/project,,,, all on behalf of the cloud storage titans, ie. Google, MSFT, Amazon.   Hope SIA team does not think that they (along with a bunch of hobbyists with a NAS) can just walk in and steal the market from these titans without a fight.  They have a difficult road ahead.  We can only hope that with all of the added attention, SC sees $0.10+ by summer otherwise plenty of A3s & Oblesisks will be mothballed.
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Agreed, the price change does sting a bit but this is how the game works.

I was one of the lucky ones, my order paid time was 2018-01-17 14:31:57 but still got my miner shipped 3 days after some. I was up and running 1 day after Vosk and have half the returns he got. I have seen people post order times after my order and they shipped before me. The only difference seemed to be UPS vs Fedex. I'll use fedex for batch 1 from now on.



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