Topic: Bitmain just announced the AntMiner A3 - 815GH/s Siacoin miner - Blake(2b) - page 8. (Read 12765 times)

You must not pay attention to their pricing.  If can fluctuate dramatically.  In November you could order a S9 for $1200-1400, now they are $2400.  $980 is about right for the A3 in 2 months.  Obelisk will probably have their miners out early and difficulty will skyrocket.  Keep in mind that the Obelisk also uses about half of the electricity. 

Well said.  The only thing I am a bitter about is the significant price difference between the first batch of A3 miners ($2,375) and the recent batch they are trying to unload in mid-March ($980).  Bitmain is clearly the leader in the ASIC mining space, but the combination of their pricing practices, poor customer support, and general tone in their purchasing/return policies paint a nasty picture.

How can a company justify such a massive price decrease with a straight face?  I give them a little credit (very little) for balancing it with the vouchers they are offering to the Obelisk holders, but what about the folks that ordered the first batch and haven't even seen their miner arrive yet?  They essentially have 45 days to make $30 per day ($1,350) followed by months of making $10-15 per day at best.  Bitmain's behaviors can only induce rage.

There are only two winners here:
- those who were lucky to get the Antminer A3 within days of it being released and were able to cover more than half the costs in the first week back when it was earning $100-$500 per day

- Bitmain

The SIA team announced they wanted to move to ASIC's and forked SIA coin to get it ready for ASIC's. In doing this and by not providing any additional requirements of vendors as a condition of the network participation, they announced to the industry "please make an ASIC miner to mine our coin". To everyone's surprises one of the largest producers of miners in the world, produces a miner and starts selling direct to home miners with a one unit limit. The SIA community got exactly what they asked for and now want to go back and change the rules and even exclude this miner producing company's customers from ever participating in the POW network in the future.

Anyone who purchased an obelisk would be stupid to not take a coupon if available. I would go as far as to say obelisk should get some sort of partnership agreement going to establish a long term relationship, as bitmain is moving into the AI and deep learning space which would be very well suited to the SIA project.

The issue of forcing a fork is a none issue for me as the SIA project only has to recognize the SIA coin of their choosing as being usable for the SIA project. They can put any restriction they like on the coin used as part of the project while no impacting the overall focus of the project, which is to provide a distributed cloud storage platform.

Bitmain hasn't done anything wrong or sneaky. They have done what any company would do in any market. They produced the produce they are good at producing and did it in a shorter time frame than anyone else.

same here.  on saturday 1/27 it was around $90 and has gone down around $20 every day to about $40 for my last 24hr on siamining.  i switched it to luxor for a little bit yesterday and it seemed to have the same results as on siamining.

I received my first A3 last Monday January 22, income was $500+ on that day,  today exactly 7 days later income is about $37/day. I bought 3, later 2 received on Janury 25. 3 A3s combined made enough SC coins to pay off the 1st one.

Yes famous picture guy vosk works for devil bitmain. Devil bitmain promoted famous picture guy vosk picture tube L3+ videos for a while.

famous picture guy vosk telling overclocking trick makes more sia. I tries this to make up quiet time and gets bad fire. he has happy face and looks nice guy but he maybe works for devil bitmain

When someone buys and receives A3, tell us more about it, so that everyone can understand its real profitability and payback

Any news on bitmain T9?? I had it in cart and canceled it. It looks like Bitcoin miner but slower than s9?

Well Vosk, you've really done it now.  Your suggested OC to 800+ made the A3 ignite and burn down the chicken coop.  Now the wife is really mad and Shute doesn't even have a roof over his head.

i uses 800 like famous picture guy vosk say. Makes bad fire.

I think the SIA team had the right idea to make the threat ...

actually the best would be if they could somehow invalid only the 2nd+ batch....         people should know not to buy batch 2. its going to be the D3 very soon if bitmain is pre-mining batch 2 sales until march

Thank you kind sir!

It is 600 MHz.

What is the default frequency for these again? Is it 525?

Okay forum helpers. shutefight has present hatred to share here with miners community. Bitmain is kind of devil spirit to drink blood of women and babies. I make miner loud with new plug in mining farm. Get so hot in chicken coup I cant sleep there. I goes out to barn and while making sleep chicken coup goes on fire!!!! it cant be gone away so is just ashes now!! No chickens. no miner. no chicken coup. now wife has hate on me to leave me and take babies!!!!  Bitmain goes sucks more blood sells more miners for $900!!!! Never shutefight have this big evil and hate to a person in life. I peaceful man but should have army to have war to bitmain. Howthis terrible hate enemy of man be alive??!!!?Huh!!!!!!!!!

thats scary to think, if they succeed in forcing out the current dev team with all the $$ they have from selling worthless heaters and mining with the heaters for months before they sell them they could easily fund a new dev team of thier own.  That beings said this sounds somwhat far feteched

Remember, Bitmian's current darling project is Sophon. What is Sophon? Sophon is an AI based protocol. What does AI use the most of? Data. Lots of it. What does Sia do? Decentralized data. These coins are like shares in a company. Control the shares and you control the company, Think about it. Maybe not so far fetched.

Interesting thought.  Possible, but I sort of doubt Bitmain has any interest in developing the project.   SIA only has real value as a cloud storage project.  I doubt that they have capability even,,,, no dev team or interest.

What a fuster cluck.

800$ coupon for a 980$ miner, they pretty much give obelisk's customers a free miner.

980$ for a new product also mean that bitmain expect a profitability close to zero pretty soon.


Interesting thought. In any case, they are taking over, fork or no fork. Sia lost all credibility with their threat, act or STFU.