Bitmain looks like they're releasing a 15GH/s DASH miner called the AntMiner D3 - page 142.

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Quote from: castiel0504 on October 09, 2017, 01:04:14 AM

VAT For my country is 30% Sad

, its really 20% but they add 10% on ask god what tax. There is catch to avoid tax, to make your miner looks "used" scratch your miner case. But you cant ask from bitmain to do that... Can maybe Bitmain write value of miner on invoice that it costs like 300-400e?

Same here. it's around 17% in my country and maybe some for an officer who in charge in this case. Grin

What a shame to customs officer!!

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Quote from: RealKariverson on October 08, 2017, 05:47:59 PM

Quote from: bytiges on October 08, 2017, 04:16:51 PM

I'll pay import taxes and VAT.

There are no import taxes for miners in Europe. Only VAT.

Whatever it is I'll have to pay it to import them (like DHL fees for processing the package. It's never a clean cut).

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VAT For my country is 30% Sad

, its really 20% but they add 10% on ask god what tax. There is catch to avoid tax, to make your miner looks "used" scratch your miner case. But you cant ask from bitmain to do that... Can maybe Bitmain write value of miner on invoice that it costs like 300-400e?

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Quote from: iulius99 on October 09, 2017, 12:15:10 AM

Quote from: RealKariverson on October 08, 2017, 05:47:59 PM

Quote from: bytiges on October 08, 2017, 04:16:51 PM

I'll pay import taxes and VAT.

There are no import taxes for miners in Europe. Only VAT.

Surely there is only VAT to pay for EU, but is not it enough that you have to pay from 19% to 23% of the declared value? in some cases like if you buy directly from Bitmain you even pay 500 euros or more?

I am a coopratebody in Sweden. I have bought 20 pieces of Antminer D3s. Do I have to pay VAT, even if I dont sell the devicies. Is there any way to avoid payying VAT?

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Quote from: iulius99 on October 09, 2017, 12:15:10 AM

Quote from: RealKariverson on October 08, 2017, 05:47:59 PM

Quote from: bytiges on October 08, 2017, 04:16:51 PM

I'll pay import taxes and VAT.

There are no import taxes for miners in Europe. Only VAT.

Surely there is only VAT to pay for EU, but is not it enough that you have to pay from 19% to 23% of the declared value? in some cases like if you buy directly from Bitmain you even pay 500 euros or more?

The invoices coming from Bitmain directly hurts, really hurts actually. especially when the VAT is at the 20% mark.
Some people in countries with high VAT might benefit from just buying from a reseller at a premium sometimes. of course depending on the mark up.
You can easily save depending how the hardware is shipped. Wink

a lot of people do not know how to declare the cargo regarding import taxes, especially coming from Bitmain directly. Don't let customs tell you what the cargo is. you tell them whats in the cargo!

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Quote from: BenRickert on October 07, 2017, 10:01:49 AM

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Quote from: UnknownBTC on October 06, 2017, 08:12:26 PM

I'm very positive and i believe the currency is gonna skyrocket anytime

Um......No. It's not. More likely it will drop. As difficulty rises...due to newer miners with high hardware costs...they are more likely to liquidate their inventory immediately. Heaping supply onto the market creating overhang and or price pressure. It is more likely that we will see rising difficulty and depreciating coin prices. Sorry but positivity does not support price.

i agree with that, dash was 350$ 2 weeks ago and ethereum was 270, now ethereum is 307 and dash 304, and also btc was like 1k lower, so actualy price of dash really went downward, because most of crypto goes up and down with btc but btc actually rised and dash went down during that period, i was thinking that if btc will be 4.5k dash will be around 420, my process of thought was based of previous experience all other times it worked on crypto and actually made some money but now it didnt worked.

also dash hit close to $400usd and ethereum was also peaking at $400usd when bitcoin was at 5000usd right before the china fud on exchanges... don't forget dash was only at $180usd before the ibelink dm11g hit the market, less than 2 months ago?. so from $180usd to today at above $300usd is a pretty big gain already. lets hope and pray the next few weeks, with more monster x11 machine coming out, dash will get another nice boost. above $400usd possibly?

that's what i thought but everything went up except dash so there is that

The largest influx of inexperienced, new miners is in X11, Dash. These people have no experience in position management or any trading acumen. All they do is launch their inventory with market orders whenever they get paid from the pools. You can actually watch this stupidity on the trading platforms. Keep in mind that you have a LOT of people that have a LOT more money than brains. Some of these trust fund punks are buying 100's if not 1000's of servers and firing them up with NO CLUE what they are doing or why. This type of "greater fool" metric puts constant pressure on the price of the X11 protocols. Luckily they create incredible opportunities for the patient and disciplined.

I dont agree with alot of the sht that comes outta this guy, well honestly most of the sht that comes outta this guy.
But i can 100% agree to what hes saying here.. he has a point. Its sad but true.
Do learn to be patient and desciplined, help the network and prices grow. Not worry about instant ROI and counting each day of earnings and instant liquidate the damn rewards.

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Quote from: RealKariverson on October 08, 2017, 05:47:59 PM

Quote from: bytiges on October 08, 2017, 04:16:51 PM

I'll pay import taxes and VAT.

There are no import taxes for miners in Europe. Only VAT.

Surely there is only VAT to pay for EU, but is not it enough that you have to pay from 19% to 23% of the declared value? in some cases like if you buy directly from Bitmain you even pay 500 euros or more?

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Quote from: RealKariverson on October 08, 2017, 05:47:59 PM

Quote from: bytiges on October 08, 2017, 04:16:51 PM

I'll pay import taxes and VAT.

There are no import taxes for miners in Europe. Only VAT.

Sure there are import taxes.
But it depends on several factors ( origin of product / type of product / price of product / if the customs agent had sex the night before processing your item and so on ).

mappo

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I have 2 D3 for sale. They are set to arrive at gigawatt with PSU and everything! Happy to use escrow. Will sell for 0.8BTC/$3680USD each if anyone is interested. Happy to include whatever documents required including receipts etc. Happy to use escrow if needed etc, or paypal. Message me for more details. Remember this includes shipping, PSU, and VERY low electricity costs etc. I have some gigawatt coins if wanted but I'd prefer to hang onto these.

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Quote from: davemanet on October 08, 2017, 03:27:34 AM

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Quote from: Bibi187 on October 06, 2017, 12:00:33 AM

So far comparison between Granatgas and Zpool

Miner started mining same time and disconnect same time, exept if pool get down.

ZPOOL

http://www.zpool.ca/?address=XhxVMxLxkDE9jUKvWET2Gfj2cqNS2ip2BQ

   Balance      0.00130587 DASH
   Total Unpaid ****      0.01603972 DASH
   Total Paid ***      0.15411574 DASH
   Total Earned      0.17015546 DASH

GRANATGAS

https://granatgas-pool.info/?address=XhxVMxLxkDE9jUKvWET2Gfj2cqNS2ip2BQ

   Dash
(Pending Balance)   0.01678124   0.00682843      0.02360967 DASH
   Balance      0.00992471 DASH
   Total Paid      0.24489655 DASH

I will run this for some more day but obviously Zpool have something wrong ... Plus Zpool supposed to take less fee ...

Conclusion for moment dont use Zpool anymore oO

https://youtu.be/NNBZzuBcfMk

I had pretty similar findings with my antminer d3

zpool.ca

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granatgas

+ also does anyone have a d3 sitting on nicehash I could watch if you dont want to post the link here then PM?

Dude, how that is similar vs of Bibi187???
Zpool.ca $0.082
G'gas $0.081
Your case, zpool.ca is higher no?

The earnings charts are a bit confusing to compare but granatgas is ~22% higher earnings
http://voskcoin.com/14-day-update-future-d3/

It's broken down more clearly in this post

Thank you for the video! Are you making $25-$35 profit, or after electricity cost?

If you sell yours, how much are you selling it for? What would you rather put the money in instead of hanging on to it? Coins or gpu miners?

That was before electric and the money will go towards btc zec zen kmd
I’m pretty content with where my gpu farm is I’d like to diversify it with some ASICs thatll last longer than 3 months

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Hey guys!! I want to sell ALL my D3's!! I never opened them. I can bring them right to your house for you!! Only 25 BTC each.....WITH PSU!! PM me!! LMAO!!

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Quote from: Maicol792 on October 08, 2017, 02:06:33 PM

if anyone want d3 can contact me in PM .. i 1 btc for one d3+psu

Sure.....$4,600.00 USD for a server that makes $20.00 per day. Why not? LOL.

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Quote from: Bibi187 on October 08, 2017, 07:58:32 PM

My test is running for 5 days now, granatgas in winning actually with higher fee.

Granatgas have 2% fee, Zpool have 1% fee.

I will let this one run for 2 days more and stop it.

Zpool

   Dash
(total pending)   0.02187792   0.00530734      0.02718526 DASH
   Balance      0.00038378 DASH
   Total Unpaid ****      0.02756904 DASH
   Total Paid ***      0.39179026 DASH
   Total Earned      0.41935930 DASH

Granatgas

   Dash
(Pending Balance)   0.01357193   0.00617151      0.01974344 DASH
   Balance      0.01147243 DASH
   Total Paid      0.50779724 DASH

Where do you live ? I'm locate in south east asia and worried about granatgas server latency coz they don't have any asia server.

0.1 Dash / day is not bad .

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My test is running for 5 days now, granatgas in winning actually with higher fee.

Granatgas have 2% fee, Zpool have 1% fee.

I will let this one run for 2 days more and stop it.

Zpool

   Dash
(total pending)   0.02187792   0.00530734      0.02718526 DASH
   Balance      0.00038378 DASH
   Total Unpaid ****      0.02756904 DASH
   Total Paid ***      0.39179026 DASH
   Total Earned      0.41935930 DASH

Granatgas

   Dash
(Pending Balance)   0.01357193   0.00617151      0.01974344 DASH
   Balance      0.01147243 DASH
   Total Paid      0.50779724 DASH

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Quote from: bytiges on October 08, 2017, 04:16:51 PM

I'll pay import taxes and VAT.

There are no import taxes for miners in Europe. Only VAT.

gauldicus

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Im in the UK (Manchester) and have a few units for sale 15th October batch, i'm keeping mine but the 2 I got for my brother are for sale due to him having no clue about mining and now he's getting cold feet. Cheesy

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Quote from: Maicol792 on October 08, 2017, 02:06:33 PM

if anyone want d3 can contact me in PM .. i 1 btc for one d3+psu

Wayyyyy over priced...

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I'm selling my D3 too.

Will ship anywhere to Europe.
I'll pay import taxes and VAT. This is november batch. PM me if interested.

I have two D3 + APW3++ PSU for sale.

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Quote from: Chan8 on October 08, 2017, 01:52:34 PM

Quote from: Starlite on October 08, 2017, 11:34:15 AM

Hi, still got peoples havent receive antminer D3 from 18th-25th Sept batch? Mine yesterday just shipped. Have been email the customer service 3 week ago but still no reply. Try want to ask for compensation. Delayed few weeks. Angry

So bitmain really didnt ship the sept batch yet? Oh wow, i can only imagine how your feeling right now.
Thats really bs.
Im really curious to see whats going to happen with the november 21-30 batch. They been selling these things for the whole month with the same shipping date.
My order was paid on sept 4th. If i get pushed to december, i aint sure how i would react.

I saw previous post, got few members also same cases like mine. Didnt shipped according to the promise date. Their customer service respond too slow and some more china have 9 days holiday. Bitmain should hire more customer service to support as their customer base is growing huge.

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if anyone want d3 can contact me in PM .. i 1 btc for one d3+psu

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