I strongly agree that the benefits of Antminer D3 will not approach the current profit once they are shipped. The question why miners in China can make money from the same equipment and prices?
Nearly free power? In which case the time to ROI becomes less relevant and you can focus on world domination instead. 
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September 05, 2017, 03:55:02 AM
September 05, 2017, 02:48:24 AM
Damn sold out in few minuts 
I hope next wave coming soon i really try this machine.
I hope next wave coming soon i really try this machine.
September 05, 2017, 02:43:04 AM
At 20k of units being dumped along with others already..not to mention more in the future
maybe not getting one, you all dodged a bullet?
I mean 20k really? sheesh
1k,10k,20k makes no diff right or wrong getting some...if you can't get in
gonna be worse imho for the next scrypt-pow L3+ batch
]maybe not getting one, you all dodged a bullet?
I mean 20k really? sheesh
1k,10k,20k makes no diff right or wrong getting some...if you can't get in
gonna be worse imho for the next scrypt-pow L3+ batch
Maybe, maybe not
I mean wasn't the same thing said when the L3+ first came out? they are still profitable if you can get your hands on one. It just sucks that freaking bitcoin will not stay consistent right now. On the current path, I'm guessing it'll go back down to 3800. Luckily for me, I already have 13 D3's coming in beginning of November. Hopefully they can advance shipment
Ah...I was on that train in got some L3's and on April fools day (april 1st) announced a 6 buck floor on LTC price thus justifying my
12-14 month ROI and 1/4 off equip deduction in real money off taxes for equip that year.
the price went to 50 bucks
so yeah, what you say could happen...I'm saying with the amount of units for x11 out in the world (or coming) it kinda MUST happen imho
for ROI....
not a slam....just saying..longer odds then normal with the volume of equip hitting the world from 5 different manufacturers....
I completely understand lol. You may actually be 100% correct, I think my 13 will do me for now. I think we all may of have dodged a bullet with them releasing 20k and they sold out in 2 hours. its crazy stupid. Its even stupider that we couldn't even get in to get any. That math verification is killing a lot of legit orders. I know I did the math right!! haha So is there anything in your opinion worth purchasing? I'm hoping to get 3 more of the S9's when they release the next batch.
Also--Do you guys think they are done releasing for the night? It's been a solid 45 mins and it seems like the site is calming down.
remember also bigger folk have different needs..due to the above price pump on ltc and my mining I'm at the 50% tax rate (if I can't find replacement equipment to nullify that)
thus I can give 50% to the tax man (fed/state/etc)
or
I can take that 50% apply it to equip ..get an additional this year 100% off gross equip deduction (equiv to 25% off real $$$ I'm gonna have to pay the
tax man this year) and thus only really be in danger on 25%
thus even if I only get 25% back on the equipment...I'm more or less even on having to pay the tax man..its a wash
thus why everyone and his brother imho is out grabbing equip....there are tax consequences of 4.15 LTC to 50 buck LTC
anyway, it is a theory
thus my risk vs reward is 25% more risk on equip vs just paying the tax man...I'll take them odds
at D3's and x11 difficulty...this may be suspect even with this angle imho...maybe same suspect action for L3+'s in the future
might be better to give the tax man 1/2 my wad this year and have 1/2 the wad for equip in 2018....rather than buy dubious equipment
this year
so anyway, again imho...why it got so damn weird for getting equip at the end of this year
I am so pissed at Bitcoin right now. Not only that I got stuck 6 times, yes 6 times in two different computer at the freaking Captch math and could not buy 1 single machine, BUT ALSO, I got a L3+ in July and 3 out of 4 Hash boards do not work , I tried everything, restarting, factory reset, updated Firmware, changes the power suppply, and NOTHING, so machine is dead and I guess I will have so send the entire machine to China because most likely the 4th hash board will eventually dies as well. But again, whom else can I buy from... Now they make it impossible to buy, I sill love their miners but damn, they are going backwards here instead of improving. if anyone knows one other thing I can do to my faulty L3 before shipping back to China, please do tell.
Also, if anyone here got lucky buying D3s tonight, please tell me how you manages to get through the math captcha part. I have a Macbook pro, good internet and used Chrome. Thank you
i did not have a math captch part....unless that was for the paid option (never got that far....and forget if I did such on my previous orders)
again ..in hindsight not sure those who did not get any D3's did not dodge a bullet...I mean 20k really? what next month another 20K (bitmain they are consistent toaster pushers)
Hi there,
They implemented captcha since the release of the last L3 batch last week. It is a new thing, I am sure ROI will be slower in Dec, and Nov, I bought some for Oct which I hope will break even in 2-3 months, as for these new ones, I wanted to order them hopefuly make a 6 month ROI which is not so bad, I guess
September 05, 2017, 02:29:30 AM
I strongly agree that the benefits of Antminer D3 will not approach the current profit once they are shipped. The question why miners in China can make money from the same equipment and prices?
September 05, 2017, 02:12:03 AM
At 20k of units being dumped along with others already..not to mention more in the future
maybe not getting one, you all dodged a bullet?
I mean 20k really? sheesh
1k,10k,20k makes no diff right or wrong getting some...if you can't get in
gonna be worse imho for the next scrypt-pow L3+ batch
]maybe not getting one, you all dodged a bullet?
I mean 20k really? sheesh
1k,10k,20k makes no diff right or wrong getting some...if you can't get in
gonna be worse imho for the next scrypt-pow L3+ batch
Maybe, maybe not
I mean wasn't the same thing said when the L3+ first came out? they are still profitable if you can get your hands on one. It just sucks that freaking bitcoin will not stay consistent right now. On the current path, I'm guessing it'll go back down to 3800. Luckily for me, I already have 13 D3's coming in beginning of November. Hopefully they can advance shipment
Ah...I was on that train in got some L3's and on April fools day (april 1st) announced a 6 buck floor on LTC price thus justifying my
12-14 month ROI and 1/4 off equip deduction in real money off taxes for equip that year.
the price went to 50 bucks
so yeah, what you say could happen...I'm saying with the amount of units for x11 out in the world (or coming) it kinda MUST happen imho
for ROI....
not a slam....just saying..longer odds then normal with the volume of equip hitting the world from 5 different manufacturers....
I completely understand lol. You may actually be 100% correct, I think my 13 will do me for now. I think we all may of have dodged a bullet with them releasing 20k and they sold out in 2 hours. its crazy stupid. Its even stupider that we couldn't even get in to get any. That math verification is killing a lot of legit orders. I know I did the math right!! haha So is there anything in your opinion worth purchasing? I'm hoping to get 3 more of the S9's when they release the next batch.
Also--Do you guys think they are done releasing for the night? It's been a solid 45 mins and it seems like the site is calming down.
remember also bigger folk have different needs..due to the above price pump on ltc and my mining I'm at the 50% tax rate (if I can't find replacement equipment to nullify that)
thus I can give 50% to the tax man (fed/state/etc)
or
I can take that 50% apply it to equip ..get an additional this year 100% off gross equip deduction (equiv to 25% off real $$$ I'm gonna have to pay the
tax man this year) and thus only really be in danger on 25%
thus even if I only get 25% back on the equipment...I'm more or less even on having to pay the tax man..its a wash
thus why everyone and his brother imho is out grabbing equip....there are tax consequences of 4.15 LTC to 50 buck LTC
anyway, it is a theory
thus my risk vs reward is 25% more risk on equip vs just paying the tax man...I'll take them odds
at D3's and x11 difficulty...this may be suspect even with this angle imho...maybe same suspect action for L3+'s in the future
might be better to give the tax man 1/2 my wad this year and have 1/2 the wad for equip in 2018....rather than buy dubious equipment
this year
so anyway, again imho...why it got so damn weird for getting equip at the end of this year
I am so pissed at Bitcoin right now. Not only that I got stuck 6 times, yes 6 times in two different computer at the freaking Captch math and could not buy 1 single machine, BUT ALSO, I got a L3+ in July and 3 out of 4 Hash boards do not work , I tried everything, restarting, factory reset, updated Firmware, changes the power suppply, and NOTHING, so machine is dead and I guess I will have so send the entire machine to China because most likely the 4th hash board will eventually dies as well. But again, whom else can I buy from... Now they make it impossible to buy, I sill love their miners but damn, they are going backwards here instead of improving. if anyone knows one other thing I can do to my faulty L3 before shipping back to China, please do tell.
Also, if anyone here got lucky buying D3s tonight, please tell me how you manages to get through the math captcha part. I have a Macbook pro, good internet and used Chrome. Thank you
i did not have a math captch part....unless that was for the paid option (never got that far....and forget if I did such on my previous orders)
again ..in hindsight not sure those who did not get any D3's did not dodge a bullet...I mean 20k really? what next month another 20K (bitmain they are consistent toaster pushers)
September 05, 2017, 01:44:49 AM
At 20k of units being dumped along with others already..not to mention more in the future
maybe not getting one, you all dodged a bullet?
I mean 20k really? sheesh
1k,10k,20k makes no diff right or wrong getting some...if you can't get in
gonna be worse imho for the next scrypt-pow L3+ batch
]maybe not getting one, you all dodged a bullet?
I mean 20k really? sheesh
1k,10k,20k makes no diff right or wrong getting some...if you can't get in
gonna be worse imho for the next scrypt-pow L3+ batch
Maybe, maybe not
I mean wasn't the same thing said when the L3+ first came out? they are still profitable if you can get your hands on one. It just sucks that freaking bitcoin will not stay consistent right now. On the current path, I'm guessing it'll go back down to 3800. Luckily for me, I already have 13 D3's coming in beginning of November. Hopefully they can advance shipment
Ah...I was on that train in got some L3's and on April fools day (april 1st) announced a 6 buck floor on LTC price thus justifying my
12-14 month ROI and 1/4 off equip deduction in real money off taxes for equip that year.
the price went to 50 bucks
so yeah, what you say could happen...I'm saying with the amount of units for x11 out in the world (or coming) it kinda MUST happen imho
for ROI....
not a slam....just saying..longer odds then normal with the volume of equip hitting the world from 5 different manufacturers....
I completely understand lol. You may actually be 100% correct, I think my 13 will do me for now. I think we all may of have dodged a bullet with them releasing 20k and they sold out in 2 hours. its crazy stupid. Its even stupider that we couldn't even get in to get any. That math verification is killing a lot of legit orders. I know I did the math right!! haha So is there anything in your opinion worth purchasing? I'm hoping to get 3 more of the S9's when they release the next batch.
Also--Do you guys think they are done releasing for the night? It's been a solid 45 mins and it seems like the site is calming down.
remember also bigger folk have different needs..due to the above price pump on ltc and my mining I'm at the 50% tax rate (if I can't find replacement equipment to nullify that)
thus I can give 50% to the tax man (fed/state/etc)
or
I can take that 50% apply it to equip ..get an additional this year 100% off gross equip deduction (equiv to 25% off real $$$ I'm gonna have to pay the
tax man this year) and thus only really be in danger on 25%
thus even if I only get 25% back on the equipment...I'm more or less even on having to pay the tax man..its a wash
thus why everyone and his brother imho is out grabbing equip....there are tax consequences of 4.15 LTC to 50 buck LTC
anyway, it is a theory
thus my risk vs reward is 25% more risk on equip vs just paying the tax man...I'll take them odds
at D3's and x11 difficulty...this may be suspect even with this angle imho...maybe same suspect action for L3+'s in the future
might be better to give the tax man 1/2 my wad this year and have 1/2 the wad for equip in 2018....rather than buy dubious equipment
this year
so anyway, again imho...why it got so damn weird for getting equip at the end of this year
I am so pissed at Bitcoin right now. Not only that I got stuck 6 times, yes 6 times in two different computer at the freaking Captch math and could not buy 1 single machine, BUT ALSO, I got a L3+ in July and 3 out of 4 Hash boards do not work , I tried everything, restarting, factory reset, updated Firmware, changes the power suppply, and NOTHING, so machine is dead and I guess I will have so send the entire machine to China because most likely the 4th hash board will eventually dies as well. But again, whom else can I buy from... Now they make it impossible to buy, I sill love their miners but damn, they are going backwards here instead of improving. if anyone knows one other thing I can do to my faulty L3 before shipping back to China, please do tell.
Also, if anyone here got lucky buying D3s tonight, please tell me how you manages to get through the math captcha part. I have a Macbook pro, good internet and used Chrome. Thank you
September 05, 2017, 12:53:12 AM
At 20k of units being dumped along with others already..not to mention more in the future
maybe not getting one, you all dodged a bullet?
I mean 20k really? sheesh
1k,10k,20k makes no diff right or wrong getting some...if you can't get in
gonna be worse imho for the next scrypt-pow L3+ batch
]maybe not getting one, you all dodged a bullet?
I mean 20k really? sheesh
1k,10k,20k makes no diff right or wrong getting some...if you can't get in
gonna be worse imho for the next scrypt-pow L3+ batch
Maybe, maybe not
I mean wasn't the same thing said when the L3+ first came out? they are still profitable if you can get your hands on one. It just sucks that freaking bitcoin will not stay consistent right now. On the current path, I'm guessing it'll go back down to 3800. Luckily for me, I already have 13 D3's coming in beginning of November. Hopefully they can advance shipment
Ah...I was on that train in got some L3's and on April fools day (april 1st) announced a 6 buck floor on LTC price thus justifying my
12-14 month ROI and 1/4 off equip deduction in real money off taxes for equip that year.
the price went to 50 bucks
so yeah, what you say could happen...I'm saying with the amount of units for x11 out in the world (or coming) it kinda MUST happen imho
for ROI....
not a slam....just saying..longer odds then normal with the volume of equip hitting the world from 5 different manufacturers....
I completely understand lol. You may actually be 100% correct, I think my 13 will do me for now. I think we all may of have dodged a bullet with them releasing 20k and they sold out in 2 hours. its crazy stupid. Its even stupider that we couldn't even get in to get any. That math verification is killing a lot of legit orders. I know I did the math right!! haha So is there anything in your opinion worth purchasing? I'm hoping to get 3 more of the S9's when they release the next batch.
Also--Do you guys think they are done releasing for the night? It's been a solid 45 mins and it seems like the site is calming down.
remember also bigger folk have different needs..due to the above price pump on ltc and my mining I'm at the 50% tax rate (if I can't find replacement equipment to nullify that)
thus I can give 50% to the tax man (fed/state/etc)
or
I can take that 50% apply it to equip ..get an additional this year 100% off gross equip deduction (equiv to 25% off real $$$ I'm gonna have to pay the
tax man this year) and thus only really be in danger on 25%
thus even if I only get 25% back on the equipment...I'm more or less even on having to pay the tax man..its a wash
thus why everyone and his brother imho is out grabbing equip....there are tax consequences of 4.15 LTC to 50 buck LTC
anyway, it is a theory
thus my risk vs reward is 25% more risk on equip vs just paying the tax man...I'll take them odds
at D3's and x11 difficulty...this may be suspect even with this angle imho...maybe same suspect action for L3+'s in the future
might be better to give the tax man 1/2 my wad this year and have 1/2 the wad for equip in 2018....rather than buy dubious equipment
this year
so anyway, again imho...why it got so damn weird for getting equip at the end of this year
September 05, 2017, 12:47:13 AM
At 20k of units being dumped along with others already..not to mention more in the future
maybe not getting one, you all dodged a bullet?
I mean 20k really? sheesh
1k,10k,20k makes no diff right or wrong getting some...if you can't get in
gonna be worse imho for the next scrypt-pow L3+ batch
]maybe not getting one, you all dodged a bullet?
I mean 20k really? sheesh
1k,10k,20k makes no diff right or wrong getting some...if you can't get in
gonna be worse imho for the next scrypt-pow L3+ batch
Maybe, maybe not
I mean wasn't the same thing said when the L3+ first came out? they are still profitable if you can get your hands on one. It just sucks that freaking bitcoin will not stay consistent right now. On the current path, I'm guessing it'll go back down to 3800. Luckily for me, I already have 13 D3's coming in beginning of November. Hopefully they can advance shipment
Ah...I was on that train in got some L3's and on April fools day (april 1st) announced a 6 buck floor on LTC price thus justifying my
12-14 month ROI and 1/4 off equip deduction in real money off taxes for equip that year.
the price went to 50 bucks
so yeah, what you say could happen...I'm saying with the amount of units for x11 out in the world (or coming) it kinda MUST happen imho
for ROI....
not a slam....just saying..longer odds then normal with the volume of equip hitting the world from 5 different manufacturers....
I completely understand lol. You may actually be 100% correct, I think my 13 will do me for now. I think we all may of have dodged a bullet with them releasing 20k and they sold out in 2 hours. its crazy stupid. Its even stupider that we couldn't even get in to get any. That math verification is killing a lot of legit orders. I know I did the math right!! haha So is there anything in your opinion worth purchasing? I'm hoping to get 3 more of the S9's when they release the next batch.
Also--Do you guys think they are done releasing for the night? It's been a solid 45 mins and it seems like the site is calming down.
I don't think so, they will do another small Crypto only batch for people who didn't pay. Go to bed imo, I am.
September 05, 2017, 12:44:28 AM
At 20k of units being dumped along with others already..not to mention more in the future
maybe not getting one, you all dodged a bullet?
I mean 20k really? sheesh
1k,10k,20k makes no diff right or wrong getting some...if you can't get in
gonna be worse imho for the next scrypt-pow L3+ batch
]maybe not getting one, you all dodged a bullet?
I mean 20k really? sheesh
1k,10k,20k makes no diff right or wrong getting some...if you can't get in
gonna be worse imho for the next scrypt-pow L3+ batch
Maybe, maybe not
I mean wasn't the same thing said when the L3+ first came out? they are still profitable if you can get your hands on one. It just sucks that freaking bitcoin will not stay consistent right now. On the current path, I'm guessing it'll go back down to 3800. Luckily for me, I already have 13 D3's coming in beginning of November. Hopefully they can advance shipment
Ah...I was on that train in got some L3's and on April fools day (april 1st) announced a 6 buck floor on LTC price thus justifying my
12-14 month ROI and 1/4 off equip deduction in real money off taxes for equip that year.
the price went to 50 bucks
so yeah, what you say could happen...I'm saying with the amount of units for x11 out in the world (or coming) it kinda MUST happen imho
for ROI....
not a slam....just saying..longer odds then normal with the volume of equip hitting the world from 5 different manufacturers....
I completely understand lol. You may actually be 100% correct, I think my 13 will do me for now. I think we all may of have dodged a bullet with them releasing 20k and they sold out in 2 hours. its crazy stupid. Its even stupider that we couldn't even get in to get any. That math verification is killing a lot of legit orders. I know I did the math right!! haha So is there anything in your opinion worth purchasing? I'm hoping to get 3 more of the S9's when they release the next batch.
Also--Do you guys think they are done releasing for the night? It's been a solid 45 mins and it seems like the site is calming down.
September 05, 2017, 12:40:08 AM
At 20k of units being dumped along with others already..not to mention more in the future
maybe not getting one, you all dodged a bullet?
I mean 20k really? sheesh
1k,10k,20k makes no diff right or wrong getting some...if you can't get in
gonna be worse imho for the next scrypt-pow L3+ batch
]maybe not getting one, you all dodged a bullet?
I mean 20k really? sheesh
1k,10k,20k makes no diff right or wrong getting some...if you can't get in
gonna be worse imho for the next scrypt-pow L3+ batch
Maybe, maybe not
I mean wasn't the same thing said when the L3+ first came out? they are still profitable if you can get your hands on one. It just sucks that freaking bitcoin will not stay consistent right now. On the current path, I'm guessing it'll go back down to 3800. Luckily for me, I already have 13 D3's coming in beginning of November. Hopefully they can advance shipment
Ah...I was on that train in got some L3's and on April fools day (April 1st) announced a 6 buck floor on LTC price on bitcointalk and laughed at via pm by many...thus justifying my 12-14 month ROI at $6 bet in my own mind and 1/4 off equip deduction in real money off taxes for equip 2017.
the price went to 50 bucks from 4.15 for LTC
so yeah, what you say could happen...I'm saying with th number of units for x11 out in the world (or coming) it kinda MUST happen imho
for ROI....big time price rise equiv to LTC pump for x11 coins
not a slam....just saying..longer odds than normal with the volume of equipment hitting the world from 5 different manufacturers....
a person could take the same position on pow scrypt mining and the L3+ also....
its toaster city out there folks.....no matter what the flavor of ASIC in question
(running with the herd...always makes me nervous...I either want to be way out in front..1st in line for new asic...or way in the back
of the herd picking up used stuff.....just saying)
September 05, 2017, 12:30:23 AM
No need to worry about your browsers guys, it's the F5 button that needs to be tuned up. This is the 4. sale I tried to buy on, and the first complete 
Also, the captcha verification got stuck, but I found my order through User Center/ my order and found payment there.
Also, the captcha verification got stuck, but I found my order through User Center/ my order and found payment there.
September 05, 2017, 12:19:53 AM
At 20k of units being dumped along with others already..not to mention more in the future
maybe not getting one, you all dodged a bullet?
I mean 20k really? sheesh
1k,10k,20k makes no diff right or wrong getting some...if you can't get in
gonna be worse imho for the next scrypt-pow L3+ batch
]maybe not getting one, you all dodged a bullet?
I mean 20k really? sheesh
1k,10k,20k makes no diff right or wrong getting some...if you can't get in
gonna be worse imho for the next scrypt-pow L3+ batch
Maybe, maybe not
I mean wasn't the same thing said when the L3+ first came out? they are still profitable if you can get your hands on one. It just sucks that freaking bitcoin will not stay consistent right now. On the current path, I'm guessing it'll go back down to 3800. Luckily for me, I already have 13 D3's coming in beginning of November. Hopefully they can advance shipment
September 05, 2017, 12:18:48 AM
At 20k of units being dumped along with others already..not to mention more in the future
maybe not getting one, you all dodged a bullet?
I mean 20k really? sheesh
1k,10k,20k makes no diff right or wrong getting some...if you can't get in
gonna be worse imho for the next scrypt-pow L3+ batch
maybe not getting one, you all dodged a bullet?
I mean 20k really? sheesh
1k,10k,20k makes no diff right or wrong getting some...if you can't get in
gonna be worse imho for the next scrypt-pow L3+ batch
hashnest will most likely list 3000 units at $2500 in October.
September 05, 2017, 12:17:11 AM
At 20k of units being dumped along with others already..not to mention more in the future
maybe not getting one, you all dodged a bullet?
I mean 20k really? sheesh
1k,10k,20k makes no diff right or wrong getting some...if you can't get in
gonna be worse imho for the next scrypt-pow L3+ batch
maybe not getting one, you all dodged a bullet?
I mean 20k really? sheesh
1k,10k,20k makes no diff right or wrong getting some...if you can't get in
gonna be worse imho for the next scrypt-pow L3+ batch
September 05, 2017, 12:16:03 AM
Win7 and FireFox on Fibre DSL ^^
September 05, 2017, 12:15:46 AM
I need to get some sleep.. hope you guys are able to get one in the next 20-30 from any dropped orders. Later
September 05, 2017, 12:13:31 AM
Sold out now. Wow. 2 hours wasted for nothing. I was able to get 5 in my cart and was able to get to the math screen 4 times. It hung up on me there and expired 4 times. I'm so mad right now. Any tips on how you guys were able to get yours to go through from the math screen? When you clicked submit did it submit right off of the bat? Or did you wait a few minutes while it verified?
Same issue got stuck at math screen i was using chrome and windows 10
i am going to try explorer next time.
I'm on windows 7 and chrome as well. I may try IE next. Then maybe firefox. This happened to me on the last batch of L3+ as well.
September 05, 2017, 12:12:43 AM
you can check the next hour, sometimes some units drops and are again able to order .)
Thanks guys, I appreciate the heads up.
September 05, 2017, 12:11:56 AM
you can check the next hours, sometimes some units drops and are again able to order .)
September 05, 2017, 12:11:33 AM
What a complete utter waste of my time lol. I hope Caanan is able to get off of their feet a little better. Bitmain will be the death of us.
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