Topic: Bitmain S2 vs Spondoolies SP10 - page 2. (Read 5432 times)

S2 already in Norway next day!

Oslo to DataCenter could take longer lol!

Remember to pray to the all mighty hemaphrodite.

Agreed. The s1 is still king.

The people that prize form over function(and positive ROI) can have their sp10's and s2's.

This is very good analysis. I've done similar math and come up with numbers that show that it will take me around 1 year for a S2 or SP10 to be a better deal than just buying S1s plus power supplies and paying a higher electricity bill to power the S1s.

HOW??  are you getting 1350W from an Emerson DS1050-3?  Specs are 87A @ 12V = 1044W. I can not find the answer anywhere in threads, how are people getting 1.4+ TH/s out of a 1050W PSU..

I would love to buy a few, but the math does not add up. Are these rigs upgraded to the DS1200?

yes I could but my upfront cash is 1700 vs 3200 that is 1500 usd difference

2.4kwatts cost me 9 usd a day.  1 sp10 is 1.2kwatts   so I have to spend 1500 usd extra for the same hash and a savings of 1.2k-watts

 or 1500 usd more and save 1.2 kwatts or 4.50 usd for power vs 9 usd for power.   1500 usd divide by 4.50 = 333 days

so for me to go ahead cash wise and make up for the power if both setups start today.  my s-1 x 6 will take 333 days to spend the usd saved over buying the sp10.   both machine are losers unless btc price jumps.

So buy 6 s-1's 2 evga's for 1750   today  not 1 sp10.

Your machine puts me about 1500usd in the hole and make me wait to hash.



Now the guy that said buy 1 s-1 use the 400 dollar coupon for an s-2 has a good idea.

I end up with 1.2th at about 1400 watts.  I spend about 2500.  this is  700 less then the sp10.

the watt difference is about 200

 1400 vs 1200   that is 75 or 80 cents a day  so in about 1000 days the sp10 catches up to this idea.   and obvious btc price needs to be huge.

So Any way you cut it. buying the sp10 on preorder is not as good as all s-1 or s-1 plus  s-2

without a huge btc jump in fiat.

This is comparing ice fury usb sticks vs ant miner u-1's  the ice fury was great gear that simply cost too much and took to long to get.

The u-1 sticks crushed the ice fury on the market.

But sell me a sp10 at 2k with a cc or pp  get it to me in under 4 days it is the hands down winner.

BTW one can argue to host a dragon miner at 1th using paypal as the best of all deals today. instant hash no work and you have paypal protection for 45 days if you used a cc with paypal your protection is for 60 days. If you time the order. like I did.  I have 50 days to pay with zero interest.

So I have 1th hashing since april 20th.  I charged it one day after my paypal cc statement came.  so  that statement is due on the 12th of may.  but the 2800 usd charge is not on it.  the charge will come one the mat 19th paypal bill I don have to pay that until june 12th.

So I have 1th hashing for  about 50 days before I pay it at all.

That is a better deal the the s2 the s-1 the sp10.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6296463

so if you time your paypal cc right I argue do this.

I have read it , but not tried it yet. I will try and re-test. Thanks.

Have you figured out how to access the machine through SSH?  Just use the CLI shutdown command and wait a minute.

I have tried many times to to turn it off with various ways, but still card gets corrupted from times to times. I cant figure out how to safely disconnect it.
I tried to remove first the ethernet, let it finish its work and after that switch off. Even though still gets in the same problem.

I am reading on the S2 thread also, but maybe I need to buy different cards and test again.

Buy a high quality SD Card throw it in there and don't be an idiot by pulling the plug to turn it off.  I'll see about the direct connection issue when I get my S2s on Monday, but I doubt I'm going to have to disconnect it from the LAN and directly connect to it if I ever need to access the GUI.  There will be a one-time direct configuration, that's it.

+1.   

You are doing it wrong! For 2400watts you could be hashing at 2.8Th.

Guys , the S2 is a hobbying toy where you need to babysit all the time.
Checking its temperature, changing its diapers ...err..  SD cards, disconnect from LAN and connect it directly with your PC to make changes to configuration, etc.

On the other hand, SP10 is similar to a heavy duty industrial PLC  ready to work 24/7 with duty cycle of higher than 120%.

I want to know my stuff will work when i get it and i'm willing to pay reasonable premium to ensure that.  I'm still trying to get the S2 repaired so it is definitely not working as specced.   I know that Spondoolies-Tech would overnight me a replacement box if i received a DOA or damaged box.   They are a top notch company that will stand behind, and are proud of their product.

The S2 definitely has its place and they will sell A LOT of them, but not everyone has the same objectives.

Here we go again.

How do they do their job when you need to carry a dozen of SD cards and replace every time you need to reboot?

You need to pray also, I forgot it.

+1

WTF these are bitcoin miners, as long as they do their job as specced who cares what they look or "feel" like?

Second that. Spondoolies is the mercedes of mining hardware. s2 is a cheap nissan sunny.

I have both S2 and SP10 in my racks...

SP10 is second to none in build quality and reliability.

S2 was built to be a cheap box they can just toss at customers and lower the price as needed -- like the S1.    

My S2 arrived as a pile of parts, i had to reassmble it and 4 of the hash boards were damaged in shipping so its hash as about 600 GH/s.  Trying to get replacements but communication is difficult.

SP10's are super high quality, very solid performers and a bit better power efficiency.    The web interface is very straight forward and simple to configure.

@ $3200 SP10 group buy VS $2599 for the S2, i would (and did) pay the extra money and buy the SP10 all day long.   Both should ship within a week or two.

Lets be serious, the thread is for countering similar machines, with similar consuming characteristics.

S1 is not included for various reasons.