Hi all!
Bitmain's support is keeping silence for several days, and for some reason I can't create new topics at enforum.bitmain.com, but I need an answer urgently.
Can I pay the total amount for my order from two different bitcoin wallets? Part from one wallet, rest from other? Will my order be valid?
Topic: Bitmain's Released Antminer S9, World's First 16nm Miner Ready to Order - page 114. (Read 531168 times)
October 21, 2017, 02:37:04 AM
October 20, 2017, 08:45:32 PM
Hi guys,
Has anyone ordered Antminers from European re-sellers? I am planning to start my mining endeavour this month.
Like this:
https://www.antminereurope.com/antminer-s9/
They have ~20% higher price, but if you count the EU customs taxes and problems (when ordering directly from China) it could compensate.
I am afraid, such re-sellers might be a scam though.
Another question, is anyone mining other sha-256 coins with antminers, is it currently worth?
Other coins are sometimes more profitable but they aren't most of the time, and it's better to just mine BTC straight up most of the time. Some people also switch to BCH during EDA for extra profit. I haven't heard of the store you mentioned yourself, you'd have to find someone else who can verify it's legit. Has anyone ordered Antminers from European re-sellers? I am planning to start my mining endeavour this month.
Like this:
https://www.antminereurope.com/antminer-s9/
They have ~20% higher price, but if you count the EU customs taxes and problems (when ordering directly from China) it could compensate.
I am afraid, such re-sellers might be a scam though.
Another question, is anyone mining other sha-256 coins with antminers, is it currently worth?
October 20, 2017, 06:46:25 PM
yea, and last time I've experience one of the fan suddenly is not working (broken into pieces, dont know why), then the miner just stop, beeping sound.. I replaced it (ordered from bitmain part site, 6 days to arrive), and back to work like a charm..So this is good, i know this miner has prevention of overheating. Now i got spare fans, so if this happen again, i got spare, no need to wait 6 days to order.
October 20, 2017, 05:51:08 AM
Hi guys,
Has anyone ordered Antminers from European re-sellers? I am planning to start my mining endeavour this month.
Like this:
https://www.antminereurope.com/antminer-s9/
They have ~20% higher price, but if you count the EU customs taxes and problems (when ordering directly from China) it could compensate.
I am afraid, such re-sellers might be a scam though.
Another question, is anyone mining other sha-256 coins with antminers, is it currently worth?
Has anyone ordered Antminers from European re-sellers? I am planning to start my mining endeavour this month.
Like this:
https://www.antminereurope.com/antminer-s9/
They have ~20% higher price, but if you count the EU customs taxes and problems (when ordering directly from China) it could compensate.
I am afraid, such re-sellers might be a scam though.
Another question, is anyone mining other sha-256 coins with antminers, is it currently worth?
October 20, 2017, 02:41:53 AM
I agree about the patent dispute https://bitnewstoday.com/news/technology/patent-argument-can-potentially-reshape-the-mining-market-in-china/
Key point of the Patent of course is Bitmains claim of uniquely using string topology to power the ASIC's. Problem with that of course is that as basis of the dispute is that other people (Bitfury) had been using string topo a year or more before Bitmain did. After Bitfury, came ASICMINER who also used it as I recall.
Problem with *that* being prior art.... Well, Patent Laws in different countries are - funny. String topo not being previously patented much less a prior patent being filed in China on it leaves the door open for interpretation by Courts... I for one hope Bitmain loses on the matter of "Serially Powering a Chain of Data Processors".
Key point of the Patent of course is Bitmains claim of uniquely using string topology to power the ASIC's. Problem with that of course is that as basis of the dispute is that other people (Bitfury) had been using string topo a year or more before Bitmain did. After Bitfury, came ASICMINER who also used it as I recall.
Problem with *that* being prior art.... Well, Patent Laws in different countries are - funny. String topo not being previously patented much less a prior patent being filed in China on it leaves the door open for interpretation by Courts... I for one hope Bitmain loses on the matter of "Serially Powering a Chain of Data Processors".
What would happen if Bitmain looses dispute? What could outcome be? That patent becomes public and people can start using it, or Bitfury becomes Bitmain, meaning in therms of 1st hand miner sales. Not sure what to expect from this :S
It won't affect us if they lose. Only future machines if they fail to license or fail to produce.
October 18, 2017, 03:33:17 AM
I agree about the patent dispute https://bitnewstoday.com/news/technology/patent-argument-can-potentially-reshape-the-mining-market-in-china/
Key point of the Patent of course is Bitmains claim of uniquely using string topology to power the ASIC's. Problem with that of course is that as basis of the dispute is that other people (Bitfury) had been using string topo a year or more before Bitmain did. After Bitfury, came ASICMINER who also used it as I recall.
Problem with *that* being prior art.... Well, Patent Laws in different countries are - funny. String topo not being previously patented much less a prior patent being filed in China on it leaves the door open for interpretation by Courts... I for one hope Bitmain loses on the matter of "Serially Powering a Chain of Data Processors".
Key point of the Patent of course is Bitmains claim of uniquely using string topology to power the ASIC's. Problem with that of course is that as basis of the dispute is that other people (Bitfury) had been using string topo a year or more before Bitmain did. After Bitfury, came ASICMINER who also used it as I recall.
Problem with *that* being prior art.... Well, Patent Laws in different countries are - funny. String topo not being previously patented much less a prior patent being filed in China on it leaves the door open for interpretation by Courts... I for one hope Bitmain loses on the matter of "Serially Powering a Chain of Data Processors".
What would happen if Bitmain looses dispute? What could outcome be? That patent becomes public and people can start using it, or Bitfury becomes Bitmain, meaning in therms of 1st hand miner sales. Not sure what to expect from this :S
October 17, 2017, 08:52:39 PM
This could be big news:
https://bitnewstoday.com/news/technology/patent-argument-can-potentially-reshape-the-mining-market-in-china/
https://bitnewstoday.com/news/technology/patent-argument-can-potentially-reshape-the-mining-market-in-china/
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Patent argument can potentially reshape the mining market in China
Chinese SIPO, or the State Intellectual Property Office of China will be reviewing a complaint from Yang Zuoxing, the former director of design in Bitmain, the vast and very influential mining corporation. Yang Zuoxing is currently leading a rival company by the name of Bitewei. Chinese legislation allows to revoke the patent as long as the complaining party provides all necessary proofs that it, indeed, was the one that invented a discussed innovation in the first place.
Bitmain, in turn, filed a lawsuit against Bitewei, claiming it is trying to infringe Bitmain’s patent rights. If Mr. Zuoxing succeeds, Bitmain will lose patent rights for a key mining component and the market in China will never be the same again, which is absolutely not beneficial for Bitmain and explains why they bothered to file a counter-suit. Mr. Zuoxing tells he expects to hear the decision of Chinese authorities in three months.
China has always been a mining frontier due to the very well-developed electronic components manufacturing in this country. It is much easier to build mining farms and found mining companies in a country that makes electronics and hardware for the whole world, including.
Chinese SIPO, or the State Intellectual Property Office of China will be reviewing a complaint from Yang Zuoxing, the former director of design in Bitmain, the vast and very influential mining corporation. Yang Zuoxing is currently leading a rival company by the name of Bitewei. Chinese legislation allows to revoke the patent as long as the complaining party provides all necessary proofs that it, indeed, was the one that invented a discussed innovation in the first place.
Bitmain, in turn, filed a lawsuit against Bitewei, claiming it is trying to infringe Bitmain’s patent rights. If Mr. Zuoxing succeeds, Bitmain will lose patent rights for a key mining component and the market in China will never be the same again, which is absolutely not beneficial for Bitmain and explains why they bothered to file a counter-suit. Mr. Zuoxing tells he expects to hear the decision of Chinese authorities in three months.
China has always been a mining frontier due to the very well-developed electronic components manufacturing in this country. It is much easier to build mining farms and found mining companies in a country that makes electronics and hardware for the whole world, including.
Bitmain maybe try to clear the stock with such massive selling in this several month and speedup the production in three month before the decision.
I think its a good thing that bitmain to stop the supply temporary.
October 17, 2017, 08:51:12 PM
I agree about the patent dispute https://bitnewstoday.com/news/technology/patent-argument-can-potentially-reshape-the-mining-market-in-china/
Key point of the Patent of course is Bitmains claim of uniquely using string topology to power the ASIC's. Problem with that of course is that as basis of the dispute is that other people (Bitfury) had been using string topo a year or more before Bitmain did. After Bitfury, came ASICMINER who also used it as I recall.
Problem with *that* being prior art.... Well, Patent Laws in different countries are - funny. String topo not being previously patented much less a prior patent being filed in China on it leaves the door open for interpretation by Courts... I for one hope Bitmain loses on the matter of "Serially Powering a Chain of Data Processors".
Key point of the Patent of course is Bitmains claim of uniquely using string topology to power the ASIC's. Problem with that of course is that as basis of the dispute is that other people (Bitfury) had been using string topo a year or more before Bitmain did. After Bitfury, came ASICMINER who also used it as I recall.
Problem with *that* being prior art.... Well, Patent Laws in different countries are - funny. String topo not being previously patented much less a prior patent being filed in China on it leaves the door open for interpretation by Courts... I for one hope Bitmain loses on the matter of "Serially Powering a Chain of Data Processors".
October 17, 2017, 04:17:52 PM
This could be big news:
https://bitnewstoday.com/news/technology/patent-argument-can-potentially-reshape-the-mining-market-in-china/
https://bitnewstoday.com/news/technology/patent-argument-can-potentially-reshape-the-mining-market-in-china/
Quote
Patent argument can potentially reshape the mining market in China
Chinese SIPO, or the State Intellectual Property Office of China will be reviewing a complaint from Yang Zuoxing, the former director of design in Bitmain, the vast and very influential mining corporation. Yang Zuoxing is currently leading a rival company by the name of Bitewei. Chinese legislation allows to revoke the patent as long as the complaining party provides all necessary proofs that it, indeed, was the one that invented a discussed innovation in the first place.
Bitmain, in turn, filed a lawsuit against Bitewei, claiming it is trying to infringe Bitmain’s patent rights. If Mr. Zuoxing succeeds, Bitmain will lose patent rights for a key mining component and the market in China will never be the same again, which is absolutely not beneficial for Bitmain and explains why they bothered to file a counter-suit. Mr. Zuoxing tells he expects to hear the decision of Chinese authorities in three months.
China has always been a mining frontier due to the very well-developed electronic components manufacturing in this country. It is much easier to build mining farms and found mining companies in a country that makes electronics and hardware for the whole world, including.
Chinese SIPO, or the State Intellectual Property Office of China will be reviewing a complaint from Yang Zuoxing, the former director of design in Bitmain, the vast and very influential mining corporation. Yang Zuoxing is currently leading a rival company by the name of Bitewei. Chinese legislation allows to revoke the patent as long as the complaining party provides all necessary proofs that it, indeed, was the one that invented a discussed innovation in the first place.
Bitmain, in turn, filed a lawsuit against Bitewei, claiming it is trying to infringe Bitmain’s patent rights. If Mr. Zuoxing succeeds, Bitmain will lose patent rights for a key mining component and the market in China will never be the same again, which is absolutely not beneficial for Bitmain and explains why they bothered to file a counter-suit. Mr. Zuoxing tells he expects to hear the decision of Chinese authorities in three months.
China has always been a mining frontier due to the very well-developed electronic components manufacturing in this country. It is much easier to build mining farms and found mining companies in a country that makes electronics and hardware for the whole world, including.
October 17, 2017, 02:34:03 PM
Man Bitmain is sure trying to make BullCrapCoin float like the turd in a punchbowl it is...
.....well said! October 17, 2017, 12:31:49 PM
its back for sale +$200 and 2 weeks later shipping, not sure about payment tho I have yet to try and check out
I have just checked it... Its only BCC
It looks like, i will buy now BTC, wait for the fork, and order after that. Since its BCC only AGAIN, i guess sale will be open for few weeks like the other one(13.5 TH/S)
October 17, 2017, 08:52:48 AM
its back for sale +$200 and 2 weeks later shipping, not sure about payment tho I have yet to try and check out
I have just checked it... Its only BCC
October 17, 2017, 08:33:23 AM
Just wondering if it would be worth buying or not lol. I have 8 already but am considering 4 more.
October 17, 2017, 07:44:01 AM
its back for sale +$200 and 2 weeks later shipping, not sure about payment tho I have yet to try and check out
I have just checked it... Its only BCC
October 17, 2017, 06:23:46 AM
its back for sale +$200 and 2 weeks later shipping, not sure about payment tho I have yet to try and check out
October 16, 2017, 03:56:15 PM
S9 have been available for sale on Bitmain for a couple weeks as long as you have been willing to buy with BCH. Today they are "Out of Stock" on Bitmain site and these offers for sale suddenly appear here. Coincidence? Or Not? It sounds like a scam.
In this case Bitmain wouldn't really be adding to the parade of red flags hanging from this offer already
October 16, 2017, 12:13:34 PM
S9 have been available for sale on Bitmain for a couple weeks as long as you have been willing to buy with BCH. Today they are "Out of Stock" on Bitmain site and these offers for sale suddenly appear here. Coincidence? Or Not? It sounds like a scam.
October 16, 2017, 08:17:46 AM
Hi, I sell 8 pieces of S9 miners, they have another 3 months warranty, I want for one miner $ 670, if you buy all at once sells cheaper, if someone is interested, let me know, all documents for miners also have, you can apply to my electronic address [email protected]
I've send you a PM. I know that you are newbie, and everything is suspicious. If you respond to mail, and show some pictures that this is possibly true. We can use Escrow and do the transaction.
I am not falling on "first pay" tactic
October 16, 2017, 06:34:23 AM
Hi, I sell 8 pieces of S9 miners, they have another 3 months warranty, I want for one miner $ 670, if you buy all at once sells cheaper, if someone is interested, let me know, all documents for miners also have, you can apply to my electronic address [email protected]
I've send you a PM. I know that you are newbie, and everything is suspicious. If you respond to mail, and show some pictures that this is possibly true. We can use Escrow and do the transaction.
October 16, 2017, 02:30:36 AM
Hi, I sell 8 pieces of S9 miners, they have another 3 months warranty, I want for one miner $ 670, if you buy all at once sells cheaper, if someone is interested, let me know, all documents for miners also have, you can apply to my electronic address [email protected]
I've send you a PM. I know that you are newbie, and everything is suspicious. If you respond to mail, and show some pictures that this is possibly true. We can use Escrow and do the transaction.
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