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Topic: Bitmain's Released Antminer S9, World's First 16nm Miner Ready to Order - page 144. (Read 531168 times)

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Back to the real issue at hand and an S9 topic...

What is everyone's plan around the firmware upgrade that Bitmain released in response to the whole antbleed thing?  Posted here: https://blog.bitmain.com/en/

Going to update?

Has anyone successfully done this yet?

I'm hesitant because I've never had to update one of my S9's before...
We updated to the 201704261557 (still available here) and saw some improvement in stability and overall hashrate, as well as a slight decline in HW error rates. Some time next week, we plan to look at the 201704270135, but if it's just the 201704261557 with Miner Link removed, then it will not be worth our time to run a new set of updates.
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Back to the real issue at hand and an S9 topic...

What is everyone's plan around the firmware upgrade that Bitmain released in response to the whole antbleed thing?  Posted here: https://blog.bitmain.com/en/

Going to update?

Has anyone successfully done this yet?

I'm hesitant because I've never had to update one of my S9's before...
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How can you say what I won't understand and what I will, you don't know me and my education background...
I refer you back to your own comments in this thread, many of which demonstrate your whole and complete lack of understanding.

We will see soon enough with Litecoin, who is right and who is wrong.
Because Americans know how good of a President Trump will be because of how Carter was as President, or one knows that Ford makes a good car because Dodge makes a good car?
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How can you say what I won't understand and what I will, you don't know me and my education background.

We will see soon enough with Litecoin, who is right and who is wrong.
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Why is there a lot of people afraid of Segwit? It has proven to be working in the test net.
We will soon see it in real use with Litecoin, and then we can all come with our final conclusions on it.

You are just saying that Segwit is a pile of shit but you are not making your point clear at all.

Which would you like me to start with first:
  • The multitude of coding issues,
  • the fact that you wouldn't understand those issues even if I told you what they were,
  • the fact that if you did understand those issues, then you'd understand that because the Core devs used a wallet in test net doesn't mean that it works with the proprietary code that the plethora of pools have/use
  • the fact that it's ludicrous to even entertain the topic that we should centralize around the Core devs so that we don't centralize around Bitmain,
  • the fact that most people in favor of Segwit are in favor of it because someone else convinced them it was good, not because they actually understand it, or
  • the fact that if Segwit was the "Savior" of Bitcoin, then Core devs wouldn't have to convince people that it was, Segwit would do that all on it's own, or
  • the fact that the topic of a single piece of equipment isn't the proper venue to discuss your personal view on a disassociated protocol change?
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Why is there a lot of people afraid of Segwit? It has proven to be working in the test net.
We will soon see it in real use with Litecoin, and then we can all come with our final conclusions on it.

You are just saying that Segwit is a pile of shit but you are not making your point clear at all.
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  • Segwit is a pile of shit that breaks as much as it "fixes".
  • To further disprove your earlier "always" comment, I think BU is just as horrible as Segwit.
  • Asicboost and Segwit are separate creatures and separate topics.
  • Anyone trying to link Asicboost and Segwit is just trying to sell you on Segwit hoping that anti-Bitmain sentiment will sway your thoughts on the pile of shit that Segwit is.
  • Segwit is a pile of shit.
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You are only backing your point with some UN  declaration (like at least three times in several threads already..) but with nothing other really relevant to back it up.
See previous recent discussions and you can understand my concern.
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My main point is, that this kind of sloppyness and shady action must come to an end.
These are big money business products (like you said mr.) and they need to be worth every single BTC/USD.
There is plenty of money for that with the current pricing scheme (lots of profit).
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And how is Bitmain innocent, when they are trying to block Segregated witness in every possible way and only care about company's personal profit (Asicboost)?
So, that's the tinfoil hat topic of the day? [insert yawn emoticon here]
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And how is Bitmain innocent, when they are trying to block Segregated witness in every possible way and only care about company's personal profit (Asicboost)?
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Don't you start to moan just like previously in the underclocking discussion again, this is nothing like that topic.

This is a serious security preach, which was only taken seriously after big public notice.


edit: I use Kubuntu, so I don't care or give comment about Microsoft's things.
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These are reasonable concerns. I can not make sense why you always take Bitmain's side mr. Genie, no matter what case...
I don't "always take Bitmain's side". I do, however, always approach the topic from the direction of both an informed consumer and a practical adult looking at a business grade piece of equipment.  Wink

There's an inherent irony when viewing the complaints of the new firmware that alienates 1% of users and the complaints of the firmware that was designed to server 1% of users. That's the part where I "side with Bitmain"; it seems that people want to cry about something (simultaneously crying "you should cater to the 1% like me" and "you shouldn't cater to the 1% that might want remote control").

...If nobody would have talked anything about this, NOTHING WOULD HAVE CHANGED!

I can bet my ass on that.
And I'm guessing you advise all Windows users that Microsoft can control their computers at will, too? After all, phone-home telemetry is phone-home telemetry.  Undecided
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These are reasonable concerns. I can not make sense why you always take Bitmain's side mr. Genie, no matter what case.

If nobody would have talked anything about this, NOTHING WOULD HAVE CHANGED!

I can bet my ass on that.
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Any takers on laying bets as to the next Bitmain conspiracy that the tinfoil hat brigade will come up with?  Huh
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Bitmain gave an official comment on the "Antbleed" case.

Antminer Firmware Update - April 2017
https://blog.bitmain.com/en/antminer-firmware-update-april-2017/

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There is a new controversy regarding a feature in the firmware of Bitmain’s Antminer series of Bitcoin miners which allegedly claims that Bitmain can remotely shut down Antminers. This is feature was designed and coded by the same team that is responsible for the firmware of Antminers. As the firmware has always been open-source, the feature was never intended to be malicious.

We need to clarify the intention of having this feature. We planned to add this feature to the code to empower customers to control their miners which often times can be hosted outside their premises. This was after more than one incident of miners being stolen from a mining farm or being hijacked by the operator of the mining farm:

In 2014, around 1,000 Antminers were withheld from the owner by a hosting service provider in Shenyang, China.
In 2015, around 2,000 units of Antminers were withheld from the owner by a hosting service provider in Georgia.
In 2017, Bitmain’s own miners were withheld and sold without its consent in Canada.
This feature was intended to allow the owners of Antminer to remotely shut down their miners that may have been stolen or hijacked by their hosting service provider, and to also provide law enforcement agencies with more tracking information in such cases. We never intended to use this feature on any Antminer without authorization from its owner. This is similar to the remote erase or shutdown feature provided by most famous smartphone manufacturers.

However, this feature was never completed. We started to develop this feature since Antminer S7 and wanted to finish its development on the Antminer S9. We hoped to make it a useful feature that we could advertise to our customers. But, due to some technical problems, we were unable to finish the development of this feature and shut down the testing server in December 2016.  It is a bug to leave the code there before the feature is fully complete and acknowledged to the users. This bug has now been pointed out in context of Bitcoin’s scaling roadmap debate and has caused considerable misunderstandings within the Bitcoin community. We apologize for this.

Following are the models affected by this bug:

Antminer S9
Antminer R4
Antminer T9
Antminer L3
Antminer L3+
Since MITM and DNS hijacks can exploit this bug we would like to apologize to our customers for a degraded level of security caused by this. We should also note that the existing stratum protocol is vulnerable to MITM and DNS hijacks, and that the mining industry needs to work together on design of the next generation mining protocol.

Moving on, we have released the new updated source-code on GitHub and new firmware on our website which removes this bug. We recommend all Antminer owners to upgrade their firmware to the updated firmware from the list below and strongly advise to not download any firmware provided by a third-party which can lead to unexpected outcomes in function and can also be potential phishing attacks.

Source code on GitHub

Source-code for Antminer S9, T9 and R4: https://github.com/bitmaintech/bmminer-mix
Source-code for Antminer L3 and L3+: https://github.com/bitmaintech/setup-A8 which includes https://github.com/bitmaintech/ltc_frimware inside.

Alternatively, we advise owners of mining farms that run Antminers to set the DNS record on their routers of auth.minerlink.com to 127.0.0.1 in the /etc/hosts file by the following method:

1. Use ssh to login to the miner
2. Run command:   echo “127.0.0.1     auth.minerlink.com” >> /etc/hosts
3. Run command:   sync
 

The controversy around this code has brought our attention to improve the design in order to address vulnerabilities that were pointed out by the community recently. For this, we thank the community for pointing out bugs and contributing to our open-source codebase. We would also like to take this opportunity to express our solidified belief in the open source community and express our renewed commitment to improving the quality and testing methods of our code.

We will continue the development of this feature to provide a technical protection for mining rig owners to host their miners in remote locations. We will add a switch to this feature, and this switch will be closed by default. Customers will be able to set up and configure their own authentication server. Before we finish this development, such a code will not be in the firmware we release from now on.
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Yes, Vista was a recode (for the most part, anyway).
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...yes it should be removed as part of due-diligence...
No one in the software industry ever does that. As a parallel example, there are unused telemetry remnants from Vista in Windows 10.
And probably still even some old OS/2 dll's a well. In the early 90's before their tiff with IBM, MS wrote some of the code under contract and kept their rights to it. I know the Win OS's as recent as XP has DLL's tagged as OS/2, not sure it the Vista/Win7 re-code finally took them out. Cheesy
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...yes it should be removed as part of due-diligence...
No one in the software industry ever does that. As a parallel example, there are unused telemetry remnants from Vista in Windows 10.
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