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Topic: Bitmain's Released Antminer S9, World's First 16nm Miner Ready to Order - page 140. (Read 531168 times)

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Had a board go down today for the first time (out of 7 S/ or T/9's dating back to last August) on a 13.5TH unit from March. Status page shows o's on that board for the first 34 ASICs then nothing. Temp fields for that board are just dashes. Red light blinked on and off sporadically when restarted, then turned off completely. Is this likely the temp sensor issue mentioned in recent pages? Any thoughts on what I should look for or try before getting into board or (they wouldn't need to do this, would they?) entire unit replacement?
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Nah, you should put yer hat back on. Can't say I need it but apparently you do.
Since you don't even attempt to refute with any evidence of what you spout:
Yutz Ignore mode re-activated.
Seems you need to learn more about English idioms...

Tinfoil hats are for the conspiracy theorists, like yourself.

Also, seems you need to learn more about English dictionaries...
Quote from: Webster's
Definition of refute
refuted; refuting

    transitive verb

    1
    :  to prove wrong by argument or evidence :  show to be false or erroneous
A direct link to Bitmain's source-code which tells you that the random "onlinedisassembler" page that you posted is only used in Bitmain's testing farm is the epitome (I imagine you have to look that word up too) of the word "refute", when it comes to your claim of it doing so during "each reboot".
legendary
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Evil beware: We have waffles!
Nah, you should put yer hat back on. Can't say I need it but apparently you do.
Since you don't even attempt to refute with any evidence of what you spout:
Yutz Ignore mode re-activated.
hero member
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Here, I found this for you:


P.S. - if nothing else, the file you point to validates my point as it is, in Bitmain's words, a "Test program used in factroy testing farm"
https://github.com/bitmaintech/single-board-test/blob/master/README.md

P.S.S. - "BM2.0" is just a modified version of cgminer and the data/"log" from that shows in "minerStatus.cgi" , not in "kernelLog.html"  Wink
legendary
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Gotta love nerd fights on a Friday night.

And I use the term with respect and humility.  It's just so stereotypical you have to lol.
legendary
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Code be damned: ComputerGenie is always right!
^^^And that's about the accuracy level of what you read in an Antminer "log" ^^
  Undecided
Some has serious trust issues regarding hardware reports...
If you have something to say report is not right, pop over to https://onlinedisassembler.com/odaweb/HP7GAkIN which is supposed to be the BM2.0 code disassembled.

Find what actually happens, highlight the code and post here. Better yet, if you care to - contribute to the dissembling if it's not done. Until then, meh, to each his own theories.
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Code be damned: ComputerGenie is always right!
^^^And that's about the accuracy level of what you read in an Antminer "log" ^^
  Undecided
legendary
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...The Kernel logs report it all...
Yes, it does; however, you should learn what the words in the log mean before spewing misinformation.
This world needs far less boneheaded non-coders reading an incomplete and poorly translated into English "log" and thinking that somehow gives them some insight into the actual code that they have never looked at (and wouldn't understand if they did).
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Right.... Query, got a later model s9?
Code be damned: Only care about the reported results of the tests. When one sees
Code:
freq[00]=606	freq[01]=606	freq[02]=612	freq[03]=612	freq[04]=612	freq[05]=612	freq[06]=612	freq[07]=612	
freq[08]=612 freq[09]=612 freq[10]=612 freq[11]=612 freq[12]=612 freq[13]=612 freq[14]=612 freq[15]=612
freq[16]=612 freq[17]=612 freq[18]=612 freq[19]=612 freq[20]=612 freq[21]=612 freq[22]=612 freq[23]=612
freq[24]=612 freq[25]=612 freq[26]=612 freq[27]=612 freq[28]=612 freq[29]=612 freq[30]=612 freq[31]=612
freq[32]=612 freq[33]=612 freq[34]=612 freq[35]=612 freq[36]=612 freq[37]=612 freq[38]=612 freq[39]=612
freq[40]=612 freq[41]=612 freq[42]=612 freq[43]=612 freq[44]=612 freq[45]=612 freq[46]=612 freq[47]=612
freq[48]=612 freq[49]=612 freq[50]=612 freq[51]=612 freq[52]=612 freq[53]=612 freq[54]=612 freq[55]=612
freq[56]=612 freq[57]=612 freq[58]=612 freq[59]=612 freq[60]=612 freq[61]=612 freq[62]=612
and those final values for each chip change (very significantly in the case of my s9B18) with each reboot plus those values ^^ match what the GUI reports for speed on that board, um, doesn't take a rocket scientist or coder to get the connection.
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...The Kernel logs report it all...
Yes, it does; however, you should learn what the words in the log mean before spewing misinformation.
This world needs far less boneheaded non-coders reading an incomplete and poorly translated into English "log" and thinking that somehow gives them some insight into the actual code that they have never looked at (and wouldn't understand if they did).
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Yeah, there's a reason weenie has been on ignore for a long time now.  I highly recommend it.
legendary
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No, they auto-tune during each startup/reboot.  Been that way for many batches now.
This is simply not true! They run the autotune routine ONLY on first start or after a hard reset (possibly on other rare occasions), but definitely not after every restart be it clean or unclean.  There is a flag set in the filesystem that triggers the autotune routine. Maybe somebody could point out where it is exactly - cannot remember off the top of my head. Source: Operating S9-13.5TH/s miner.
It seems as though you have a major misconception about what the auto-frequency is and how it works. "Autotune" is an uniformed, social-media contrived name based on too many misconceptions of what happens in the process. When it comes to "newer" models of S9s, auto-frequency has a specific frequency set for each chip. This frequency is set in the PIC, and this setting is done prior to shipping to the consumer.
I have to say I must differ a bit on that.
Yes the as-shipped info is read from the PIC and Auto-tune then runs some tests to see if the settings work. When they do, great! Pre-heat/Health checks are done in around 5min. Smiley IF they don't - it then tries a lower frequency to see if all chips in the chain pass inspection. If the chips pass that lower freq is what it runs at until rebooted.

And yes this test is done each time you cycle the power AND do after a soft boot.

Proof? My s9 batch-18, the only 'lower-speed' one of their batches I've bought. Is 11.2THs as I recall.
Yes, it runs at spec'd speed but a) board-1 runs a bit more than 150MHz slower than the other 2 boards. b) more to the point, it can take 3-4 soft boots to get it to that speed. The 2x  lets call then 'Prime" boards always report same speed and within a couple 10's of  GHs of each other every time. The weak sister: speed will vary more than 75MHz from it's usual of 425.5, sometime higher (for a while but also has high HW errors, yes is a long timed run) more often it boots at lower speed but zero HW errors after even 1 hr. Keep kicking it until I see 425.5MHz when tuning is done and I know it will be fine until the next boot(s).

The Kernel logs report it all...
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No, they auto-tune during each startup/reboot.  Been that way for many batches now.
This is simply not true! They run the autotune routine ONLY on first start or after a hard reset (possibly on other rare occasions), but definitely not after every restart be it clean or unclean.  There is a flag set in the filesystem that triggers the autotune routine. Maybe somebody could point out where it is exactly - cannot remember off the top of my head. Source: Operating S9-13.5TH/s miner.
It seems as though you have a major misconception about what the auto-frequency is and how it works. "Autotune" is an uniformed, social-media contrived name based on too many misconceptions of what happens in the process. When it comes to "newer" models of S9s, auto-frequency has a specific frequency set for each chip. This frequency is set in the PIC, and this setting is done prior to shipping to the consumer.
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No, they auto-tune during each startup/reboot.  Been that way for many batches now.
Thanks for the heads up.

To bad Sad
The 0.1 W/Gh/s is really nice but I wanted to use less power/watts, then the stock ~1300watts.

You could always hack the firmware or run 2/3 boards for (roughly) 67% of the power consumption. I am certain you would find lots of takers for a single (working and new) hashboard, judging by the amount of boards that seem to be breaking.
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Hello,
I couldn't find my answer on Bitmain's website.

Is it possible to change the frequency, to underclock or overclock, the S9-13.5TH/s and S9-11.5TH/s, that are sold at the moment on Bitmain's webshop ?

Thanks
No, they auto-tune during each startup/reboot.  Been that way for many batches now.

This is simply not true! They run the autotune routine ONLY on first start or after a hard reset (possibly on other rare occasions), but definitely not after every restart be it clean or unclean.  There is a flag set in the filesystem that triggers the autotune routine. Maybe somebody could point out where it is exactly - cannot remember off the top of my head. Source: Operating S9-13.5TH/s miner.
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I think he mentioned in the other thread that he only had access to 400-watt ish power
400 watts of free electricity is not the same as only 400 watts of power.  Undecided
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No, they auto-tune during each startup/reboot.  Been that way for many batches now.
Thanks for the heads up.

To bad Sad
The 0.1 W/Gh/s is really nice but I wanted to use less power/watts, then the stock ~1300watts.
Did you also put a governor on your car that only lets it top out at 12 MPH? Roll Eyes
I think he mentioned in the other thread that he only had access to 400-watt ish power
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No, they auto-tune during each startup/reboot.  Been that way for many batches now.
Thanks for the heads up.

To bad Sad
The 0.1 W/Gh/s is really nice but I wanted to use less power/watts, then the stock ~1300watts.
Did you also put a governor on your car that only lets it top out at 12 MPH? Roll Eyes
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No, they auto-tune during each startup/reboot.  Been that way for many batches now.
Thanks for the heads up.

To bad Sad
The 0.1 W/Gh/s is really nice but I wanted to use less power/watts, then the stock ~1300watts.
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Hello,
I couldn't find my answer on Bitmain's website.

Is it possible to change the frequency, to underclock or overclock, the S9-13.5TH/s and S9-11.5TH/s, that are sold at the moment on Bitmain's webshop ?

Thanks
No, they auto-tune during each startup/reboot.  Been that way for many batches now.
full member
Activity: 182
Merit: 100
Hello,
I couldn't find my answer on Bitmain's website.

Is it possible to change the frequency, to underclock or overclock, the S9-13.5TH/s and S9-11.5TH/s, that are sold at the moment on Bitmain's webshop ?

Thanks
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