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Topic: Bitmain's Released Antminer S9, World's First 16nm Miner Ready to Order - page 150. (Read 531168 times)

legendary
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Anyone who purchased that last batch of S9-13.5THs get a shipping notice yet?  I got an email back on the 6th "BITMAIN Order Picking" saying "your order is under arrangement, tracking number will update to you later."

Later indeed...  Look, I know they said they wouldn't ship until the 31st, but why get me all hot and bothered on the 6th?  No one likes a tease!  Cheesy

it means that it was ready on 6th, but someone at Bitmain decided that they can use it for 3 weeks beforehand...happy mining.
'Tis nothing new.
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Anyone who purchased that last batch of S9-13.5THs get a shipping notice yet?  I got an email back on the 6th "BITMAIN Order Picking" saying "your order is under arrangement, tracking number will update to you later."

Later indeed...  Look, I know they said they wouldn't ship until the 31st, but why get me all hot and bothered on the 6th?  No one likes a tease!  Cheesy
I was thinking the same thing. "On or before the 31st" makes you plan to wait, but a pick notice makes you wonder why they are sitting on a boxed up shipment for weeks on end.  Undecided
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Anyone who purchased that last batch of S9-13.5THs get a shipping notice yet?  I got an email back on the 6th "BITMAIN Order Picking" saying "your order is under arrangement, tracking number will update to you later."

Later indeed...  Look, I know they said they wouldn't ship until the 31st, but why get me all hot and bothered on the 6th?  No one likes a tease!  Cheesy
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WOW!

The new T9 is at 1686 Watts!  Do not run this one at home.
It takes power to run 18 less chips at the same hashrate.  Wink
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legendary
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WOW!

The new T9 is at 1686 Watts!  Do not run this one at home.
legendary
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leave the mining to the Corporate Professionals,they mine Bitcoin for a living & know better than you lowlife home miners what's good for Bitcoin!!!!!!!!

What a shit!.. So how about decentralization? Do you remember this word?

LMAO,it is already "Centralized",you think "we the people" mining have 51% or more ??

Hell no we don't,all the big mining farms have more than that I bet  Cheesy

So there is nothing you can do about it,it is done.....you cannot effect any changes to BTC  Sad
legendary
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Electrical engineer. Mining since 2014.
This is also S9 related, so I thought to share this here as well.
If there is someone with a desire for non-autotune settings, be brave and please report if you get same results as I had  Wink

Originally posted in the R4 thread https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.18267781
Well, this is an interesting find and I thought I'll share it with you. Smiley

I had a problem booting my Antminer R4 8.0 Th/s, batch 2, autotune-model.

So I went looking in here:
Bitmain.com: Three Ways to Restore Factory Settings (R4/S9/T9)
https://enforum.bitmain.com/bbs/topics/3957

I used the last option in the list, IP Reporter button restore.
Quote from: Bitmain
Usage: Please power off the miner, then hold down the IP Reporter and don’t release it. At the same time, please power on the miner.
Releasing the IP Reporter after 5 seconds, the machine will automatically restore factory settings.

My miner restored with firmware Aug. 9 2016 and autotune settings were gone.
I am now suddenly able to control frequency and custom fan settings.  Cheesy

This was not my original problem, but I'm happy with it.
My original problem was that the miner jammed somehow in the booting process and didn't even show up in my router ip list.

legendary
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NO brake even, EVER even at zero electricity cost if difficulty rise continues like this and btc does not appreciate.
Do you know the BTC/USD ratio for tomorrow, for example? No? So what can you tell about ROI?..

there is a no appreciation (increase in price) in what i posted.
Obviously, IF bitcoin goes up in $$ OR ruble terms, then you will make $$ or rubles.
however, if you rely on bitcoin appreciation, then the simplest way is to buy bitcoin with fiat, as you would not have to spend any electricity on it.
legendary
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A humble Siberian miner
NO brake even, EVER even at zero electricity cost if difficulty rise continues like this and btc does not appreciate.
Do you know the BTC/USD ratio for tomorrow, for example? No? So what can you tell about ROI?..
legendary
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A humble Siberian miner
leave the mining to the Corporate Professionals,they mine Bitcoin for a living & know better than you lowlife home miners what's good for Bitcoin!!!!!!!!

What a shit!.. So how about decentralization? Do you remember this word?
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...Your thoughts? 
The 3 biggest problems are:
1) In far too many cases Core has become synonymous with "official".
2) Thus far all devs (and most specifically Core) refuse to produce a single product that gives actual options; you either pick ProductA with Option1 or you must pick ProductB with Option2 or... etc...
3) This is all wildly off-topic in a hardware thread.
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legendary
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The choices right now!  Bitcoin Core – Current, 1MB, slow transactions:

SegWit – Soft Fork, Efficiency
Bitcoin Unlimited – Hard Fork (Bugged)
8MB Blocks – Hard Fork - Long Shot and not really on the table

Currently the day to day use of BTC is becoming more and more limited.  Something needs to happen. 

SegWit would fix the problem without risk near term and give the core developers time to come up with a long term solution.  The problem with this is getting consensus among miners which is not happening due to miners not making the decision and the problem not getting resolved.

Bitcoin Unlimited would also fix the problem short term with high risk.  It has already proved to have a bug.  This is being done according to the system rules by forking into a different and separate coin.  This is the issue with "BITCOIN" having a duality in name and use.  Who would be the developers?  Many questions to include another bug and hurting the Bitcoin name while addressing the short term need for everyday use.

Your thoughts? 
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...  "Sources" say that they are moving the public 51% threat to a more realistic signaling of 75% for BU over a sustained period...
Any of those sources that aren't just you repeating hearsay from Kano?
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Satoshi intended the hard-fork to deal with unsolvable issues like this.  The longest chain becomes bitcoin, the shorter becomes an altcoin.  If this issue does not resolve some other way, that's what should happen.

Interesting approach for the medium and long term.

Bitmain gets to support client they want.  Miners (me) get to support the client we want by mining the pool that indicates it. 
I doubt Bitmain's owners are intentionally trying to go bankrupt.
Valid point.  They are expressing their right to say how they feel: "BU".  I still think they are a great company! I just do not want to see a fork. It  would simply be full of problems.

Ultimately I think this issue will be solved by a few engineers deciding how to move forward.

Right now. It is only signaling.  "Sources" say that they are moving the public 51% threat to a more realistic signaling of 75% for BU over a sustained period. Once a change was decided, there would be two weeks before the change actually took place. 

I think BU is the better solution for scaling (which I think BTC should do) and keeping transactions on chain.  We just don't need to see a fork.

Support another coin with GPU mining....you'll be glad you did....& so will your wallet  Wink  Mine's gettin full !!!  Cheesy

I am considering ETH (not ETC, speaking of forks).
legendary
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Satoshi intended the hard-fork to deal with unsolvable issues like this.  The longest chain becomes bitcoin, the shorter becomes an altcoin.  If this issue does not resolve some other way, that's what should happen.
Bitmain gets to support client they want.  Miners (me) get to support the client we want by mining the pool that indicates it. 
I doubt Bitmain's owners are intentionally trying to go bankrupt.
The internet has been filled with bitcoin politicians bad mouthing both sides.  Ultimately I think this issue will be solved by a few engineers deciding how to move forward.
I know this is off topic. Sorry.  That's all I'll have to say here about it.
legendary
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Support another coin with GPU mining....you'll be glad you did....& so will your wallet  Wink  Mine's gettin full !!!  Cheesy

Hopefully not full with pre-mined scamcoins.  Cool
legendary
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I refuse to support this company, I would prefer to halt my operation and wait for competition to enter the market. Than to offer my hard earned money in support of someone who wants to ultimately see the destruction of bitcoin as we know it.

I own a couple S9s.  I am super happy with them.  However, BTC I DO NOT WANT TO SEE A FORK!!!! BTC Antpool's unannounced adoption of BU may force a hard fork, effectively creating two block chains with the "real" bitcoin.  If that happens then BTC will likely head into a downward trend.  BITMAIN, a company which I support and mined at until the BU adoption, likely sees gains in the long-term and puts them at a competitive advantage if the price drops because of lower priced electricity.  

If you can split Bitcoin, then what value does it have?  There is only 21 million Bitcoin.  If we hard fork, there becomes 42 million.  What prevents another split in the future?  The fact that BTC will not be duplicated is where it has value.  If it can - and would likely - show up on two separate chains (1MB and 8MB), then nobody will want it until all of the double transactions are worked into the BTC or XBC.

I, personally, like a larger block size but not unless we get the SegWit people to adopt it as well. There must be consensus in any changes for bitcoin to remain bitcoin.  There is not consensus.

Another reason I'm glad I quit buying ASICs & mining Bitcoin...........leave the mining to the Corporate Professionals,they mine Bitcoin for a living & know better than you lowlife home miners what's good for Bitcoin!!!!!!!!

Support another coin with GPU mining....you'll be glad you did....& so will your wallet  Wink  Mine's gettin full !!!  Cheesy
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